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2013-01-30, 10:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
Only the Kickstarter backers have the PDF right now. The book is done, but there's an additional delay associated with getting all the backers' names and adding that last section. The product will be officially released once that's completed. Sorry.
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2013-01-30, 10:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
The product will be released once all surveys are in and the backer names can be added. Those who donated to where they would get a copy of the PDF received an early copy.
And anyone else notice the bit of a shoutout to the Belgariad? Apparently Irumian sorcery involved the Will and the Word.
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2013-01-31, 02:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-01-31, 05:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
Nah, early release was a bonus. The whole thing isn't quite ready yet, else why free early access as an incentive?
That's pretty hilarious actually. Beyonce? Alchemy? Could you spoil the joke for me, s'il vous plaît?
Also, I am wondering some things. How woul one go about setting up a one-shot game for a nWoD splat? Mortal level is easy, but for werewolf? Mage? Changeling? These things require a set backdrop – more so for Mage and changeling than werewolf, but still. The chronicle seems to really need a stable government background faction, known territory, known specialties within the factions, etc. So how do you say "okay guys, this is the only time we will ever play in this city" but still make merits like Mentor, Allies, and Status work for you? What level of depth is required, and what level is just plot-retentive?
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2013-01-31, 05:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-01-31, 09:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
NOW COMPLETE: Let's Play Starcraft II Trilogy:
Hell, It's About Time: Wings of Liberty
Does This Mutation Make Me Look Fat: Heart of the Swarm
My Life For Aiur? I Barely Know 'Er: Legacy of the Void
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2013-01-31, 02:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-01-31, 09:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-01-31, 10:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-01-31, 10:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
Okay, having finally started working on pledges myself, can I just ask ...
Why is the mortal swearing on his/her true name?
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2013-01-31, 11:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-01-31, 11:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
I guess I find pledges in general confusing, but..
I thought swearing on your true name had to do with being a changeling. For mortals to swear on their true name, well, I mean they aren't attuned to wyrd the same way so does it have the same effects? The true name doesn't tend to have the same meaning for a mortal, in any case. They probably don't have that many contracts with different changelings and it's that which is penalized by true name.
Besides that, why wouldn't you just swear a normal vow with them rather than swearing on your true name? Unless you have that many ongoing pledges?
C:tL 176: Non-changelings do not receive any additional penalties when forswearing an oath; the pledge is bound to the name sworn on by the changeling parties only.
(Am I just confused?)Last edited by imany; 2013-01-31 at 11:18 PM.
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2013-01-31, 11:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
I think you're a bit confused. The only thing the line in the CtL book means is that a non-changeling swearing an oath on his True Name doesn't take any of the penalties associated with it (vulnerability to the fetch, knowledge of his forswearing leaked to others), he just suffers the penalties for forswearing his pledge.
As for True Names having meaning for mortals, you're right... and you're wrong. For an average mortal, no True Name has little meaning. For the Wyrd, however, True Names are very important, whether you're a mortal, or a changeling or anything else. Your True Name matters to the Wyrd.
One might swear an oath on their True Name with a mortal because the changeling in question has already used up a number of their other options for pledges, or simply because it's convenient.
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2013-01-31, 11:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
Right. That's what I mean, though -- I mean, besides that it is their first pledgecrafting attempt so the slots shouldn't have been filled up already? Regular vows are serious business, oaths are extra serious-- That's my impression, anyway. Mortals don't adequately understand what you are risking and the penalty they take for that seriousness is negligible compared to your own?
I guess I am just wondering why you wouldn't save the true name pledge for a changeling. Swearing on it seems like it shouldn't be taken very lightly (not that any pledge should be, but oaths especially.)
Mortals can swear on anything (like, if I don't do this, let fate strike me down) or whatever, it doesn't have to be an oath. I thought.Last edited by imany; 2013-01-31 at 11:38 PM.
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2013-01-31, 11:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
The slots are not filled, yes. I never got a chance to use this one, even, for that matter, since the only WoD game I was in died before we got past the first scene.
That said, the reasoning was mostly because that was what the only example I had of a pledge involving ensorcellment was, and I'm not entirely clear on how to figure out the invocation cost, so I didn't want to mess with things too much.
In practice, it could just be a Vow, or any other kind of pledge a mortal can swear.Last edited by Lady Serpentine; 2013-01-31 at 11:54 PM.
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2013-02-01, 12:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
-has totally been spending all night reading about this-
The glamour cost seems to be the total points a pledge has minus boons if it isn't a stock pledge.
Step Four: Add the total Glamour costs (task costs for each task + sanction costs for each sanction + duration cost) to determine the amount of Glamour that must be spent to activate the vow. Each party must contribute at least one point of Glamour (for mortals, or changelings who have run out of Glamour, Willpower may be used in place of Glamour, but changelings must use Glamour first if they have it), but the remaining may be divided however the parties involved see fit, as long as the total Glamour cost is paid. This Glamour cost is the activation price of the pledge, and when the vow is spoken aloud and the activation price paid, the pledge is tied to the Wyrd and made manifest.
Also :( oh no for dying :(Last edited by imany; 2013-02-01 at 12:22 AM.
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2013-02-01, 01:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
Willpower, I presume. The non-changeling contributes a point of Willpower, and the changeling pays everything else.
How many WP is it supposed to take per glamour point?
Is taking an adjusted existing oath easier to activate than a custom one?
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2013-02-01, 03:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
Someone commented on it before, did they not?
As it is, it looks good. I think you'll maybe lose out having both pleasant and guarded dreams, but I'm a very 'bad experiences can be good for you' kinda shapeshifter. So.
Costs? I vaguely remember a 'costs are stupid, we'll ignore them unless the total gets above +2' house rule. That's it >_>;
Oh, neat. I'll go looking around then.
I hope they aren't hell to read though.
Ha ha ha!
plus there's no reason to think mortals aren't equally limited in oath amount. Perhaps swearing on his true name leaves him with X vows left?
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2013-02-01, 04:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
That'd be you, saying you were going to look at it after you'd slept - which was the extent of said commentary, to the best of my knowledge.
And while you might lose out if you're not allowed to have nightmares, the guarding is specifically talking about Fae intrusion, which I think we can all agree is overly deleterious to one's health to be allowed.
Besides, the exact definition of pleasant can be varied. My thoughts on the matter would be that as long as you're not actually going to horribly scared by it for a while after you wake up, it counts, like reading a horror story, but waking up screaming and shaking is something to prevent. But that's probably best defined by the people making pledge at the time they do so.
Edit: Also, PM box is cleared out now. Sorry if you tried to send me anything while it was full.Last edited by Lady Serpentine; 2013-02-01 at 04:06 AM.
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2013-02-01, 05:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
Huh. So act three presto-chango? Terrible nightmare, reduced to silly funhouse ride at the very end? Character helps dreamer off the cart, flicks the (now) obviously fake monster on the nose, makes a comment about how real it looked in the dark, maybe say its fun to bed areas sometimes, ask what they learned?
*scribbles in notebook*
Edit: Also, PM box is cleared out now. Sorry if you tried to send me anything while it was full.
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2013-02-01, 05:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
That would work. Allowing normal nightmares to run their course in a relatively standard fashion, but dampening the fear just enough to make it scary in a pleasant way throughout, similar to going through a realistic haunted house in one's sleep, along with steering away from things that bring up anything intensely traumatic, or otherwise a truly horrible nightmare, would be possible as well.
(Sidenote: I take it that 'to bed areas' is your phone's version of 'to go to bad areas', yes?
If not, the only thing I can come up with for it is someone trying to sleep with the geography.. )
Okay. So far, I've been mentally geared for Mage and Werewolf, which has an entirely different feel to it. I'll give it a once-over and send my initial thoughts if there's nothing new to add immediately.Last edited by Lady Serpentine; 2013-02-01 at 05:14 AM.
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2013-02-01, 05:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
I hope you don't mind my laughing (and nodding in sympathy) at this hilarious commentary on the human condition. It's nothing personal, just an observation on someone, to quote the sample in a Kill Hannah instrumental, "noting the compulsiveness of {their} own behavior as it enters {consciousness}...you can't help yourself, realize that {others} can't help themselves". There's definitely a WOD-tastic lesson in that.
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2013-02-01, 05:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
"fun to be scared sometimes". Oddly, caused because I corrected a minor typo and it sent auto spell into a tizzy.
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2013-02-01, 06:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
Ah, I see. Well, the intent was close enough that my response is still accurate, at least.
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2013-02-01, 09:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-02-01, 09:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-02-04, 08:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
We now know a bit more about the upcoming Demon game.
Demon is about looking in the mirror. Recognizing the establishment standing behind you, recognizing that it's used you. Looking into your own eyes, and promising yourself that you're going to change that. And then realizing that no matter what you do, it'll never undo the lies you're going to have to tell.
Demons are former agents of the God-Machine. Once, they delivered revelations and destroyed cities. But each one of them had a moment, a breaking point, an instant in which they realized what they were. Maybe they fell in love, maybe they developed a conscience. In that moment, the demon fell.
Now, they walk among us, in the crowds and the flesh and the stink. They can see the angels and the infrastructure. Some of them want to destroy it. Some of them want to turn it to serve their own ideals. Some just want someplace warm with a bed and a bottle.
And they're all going to Hell.My FFRP characters. Avatar by Ashen Lilies. Sigatars by Ashen Lilies, Gullara and Purple Eagle.
Interested in the Nexus FFRP setting? See our Discord server.
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2013-02-04, 10:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
...Not sure how I feel about that. Part of me thinks it sounds pretty neat, but another part of me is concerned that it'll become somewhat... metaplot-ty, I guess? I don't know, something just doesn't sit right with me.
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2013-02-04, 01:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
Is it me, or humanity sins table in Vampire is a bit... strange? I know that murder is bad, but in WoD it is part of everyday life and no party can ever spend a night without killing a dozen of enemies. Or is that the point?
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2013-02-04, 01:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General WoD Discussion #2: Its time to Celebrate!
That's the point. WoD is no D&D, where parties are marauding sociopathic hobos who gleefully slaughter enemies by the dozens. Murdering someone is a big deal, and scars you appropriately - it's not supposed to be a part of everyday life, and if it is for a character, they won't stay sane for long.
NOW COMPLETE: Let's Play Starcraft II Trilogy:
Hell, It's About Time: Wings of Liberty
Does This Mutation Make Me Look Fat: Heart of the Swarm
My Life For Aiur? I Barely Know 'Er: Legacy of the Void