Fairy Tail II: Second Generation Thread Slayers

[Kato]

Uhm... yeah, I'm not sure how to feel about this weeks chapter...

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It's just so contrived that Ultear's one minute exactly then did help so much. Ultear deciding her giving her life I guess kind of makes sense, if not out of guilt but just to help, but how would she know things would go different even if time was turned back more than a minute? (Also, as with so many suicide attacks... who develops these spells? How do you practice them?)

I'm not entirely sure whether Ultear will actually stay dead... this is FT after all. But I am sure someone will find out what she did. She's not going to die an unsung hero. Not in FT.

Also: That's some fine ass on page 4

[lord_khaine]

Heh, Ultear is now Nox

Nahh, Nox managet 20 min, and got away with it

[LaZodiac]

Uhm... yeah, I'm not sure how to feel about this weeks chapter...

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It's just so contrived that Ultear's one minute exactly then did help so much. Ultear deciding her giving her life I guess kind of makes sense, if not out of guilt but just to help, but how would she know things would go different even if time was turned back more than a minute? (Also, as with so many suicide attacks... who develops these spells? How do you practice them?)

I'm not entirely sure whether Ultear will actually stay dead... this is FT after all. But I am sure someone will find out what she did. She's not going to die an unsung hero. Not in FT.

Also: That's some fine ass on page 4

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The only page 4 I can find either has everyone getting killed, or has no ass shot.

I'm pretty confident Ultear will stay dead. As for how these suicide spells get practiced, it's likely that a lot of it is just theory, not actual practice. Otherwise Ultear would of known that an entire life would only give around one minute.

[Kato]

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The only page 4 I can find either has everyone getting killed, or has no ass shot.

I'm pretty confident Ultear will stay dead. As for how these suicide spells get practiced, it's likely that a lot of it is just theory, not actual practice. Otherwise Ultear would of known that an entire life would only give around one minute.

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Page 4 without the extra pages Page 6 for you, probably(?)

Why? I mean, yeah, it is quite likely but this is Fairy Tail. Erza got better, Makarov didn't die when it would be a good time... Admittedly, none of them did a suicide spell but still.
Yeah but it seems to me inventing a spell/technique would need not only writing down some numbers and doing the maths. It's just a pet peeve of mine.

[Olinser]

Very much a stupid Deus Ex Machina.

So Ultear turns the clock back. Except... apparently only the HUMANS see that 1 minute and use it. It's not like the dragons are intelligent beings that could use that knowledge to their advantage, too.

[Soras Teva Gee]

Very much a stupid Deus Ex Machina.

So Ultear turns the clock back. Except... apparently only the HUMANS see that 1 minute and use it. It's not like the dragons are intelligent beings that could use that knowledge to their advantage, too.

A time mage turning back time... nah given how many of us called it makes perfect sense. Its literally her whole schtick afterall.

And given that they were winning what exactly would the dragons want to change and therefore what would they do differently. Besides seems none of the seven fights that matter were decided in that minute either, just saved Gray and a bunch of B/C listers from the draco-mooks

[LaZodiac]

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Page 4 without the extra pages Page 6 for you, probably(?)

Why? I mean, yeah, it is quite likely but this is Fairy Tail. Erza got better, Makarov didn't die when it would be a good time... Admittedly, none of them did a suicide spell but still.
Yeah but it seems to me inventing a spell/technique would need not only writing down some numbers and doing the maths. It's just a pet peeve of mine.

Aaah, okay. Yha, that's a good one.

Truth be told, as bad as it would of been, having everyone die to the Apocolypse Dragon and having Romeo take over as main character, although a SUICIDAL decision, would of been an interesting way to play it. Maybe have a few of them survive somehow.

Very much a stupid Deus Ex Machina.

So Ultear turns the clock back. Except... apparently only the HUMANS see that 1 minute and use it. It's not like the dragons are intelligent beings that could use that knowledge to their advantage, too.

As I said above, the dragons simply saw the image of them winning. Thus they wouldn't change what they were going to do. After all, why WOULD they?

[Olinser]

A time mage turning back time... nah given how many of us called it makes perfect sense. Its literally her whole schtick afterall.

And given that they were winning what exactly would the dragons want to change and therefore what would they do differently. Besides seems none of the seven fights that matter were decided in that minute either, just saved Gray and a bunch of B/C listers from the draco-mooks

I'm not objecting to her turning back time. I'm objecting to that fact that the time turn seemed to ONLY benefit the humans involved.

[Soras Teva Gee]

I'm not objecting to her turning back time. I'm objecting to that fact that the time turn seemed to ONLY benefit the humans involved.

We frankly got only what one shot of the dragons and Gajeel taking advantage.

And what would you change when you are winning?

Or does everyone suddenly become Vizzini and play I know you know I know you know? That doesn't sound like a good story it sounds like wasteful fussing over details that don't matter because the net benefit is to the guys about to loose.

[lord_khaine]

And what would you change when you are winning?

Agree, when you are in a life or death battle, and suddenly get a vision of the near future, then you dont have time to spend 10-15 sec thinking about if anyone else got a vision.

Of course, seing yourself die might be a very strong motivation to do something else

[Silva Stormrage]

Ya I don't think its a dues ex machina at all. I mean a lot of people saw this coming. For the suicide spells, ya no idea how they practice them. Maybe you can get really close to finishing the spell and then not actually cast the spell? Maybe that would work for practice and not cost your life?

And ya I bet the dragon mooks did see a vision, of them killing their opponents. They honestly would be MORE likely to keep doing what they did.

[Socratov]

Oh Natsu

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You really DO specialize in collateral damage, don't you?

[Kato]

Oh Natsu

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You really DO specialize in collateral damage, don't you?

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But this time it was useful!

Wow, I'm kind of ashamed I didn't see that one coming... I guess there is kind of the fault that he possibly build a new gate to connect to the destroyed one in the past but that's quite a decent plan.

Also, I like that FutureRogue got morehumanized in the end, with losing Frosch and trying to fight Acnologia (even though he is still way misguided, especially for FT standards)

I didn't like that I basically have no idea what went on during that fight...

[LaZodiac]

Fight Choreography: You're doing it...poorly. The basic idea is that

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Natsu was getting hit with shadow light blasts and stuff, and Stingrogue was swishing around as a shadow. Eventually, he falls off, and Atlasflame grabs him, turns him into a dragon hadoken, and throws him at Stingrogue and Motherglare.

[Forum Explorer]

Uhm... yeah, I'm not sure how to feel about this weeks chapter...

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It's just so contrived that Ultear's one minute exactly then did help so much. Ultear deciding her giving her life I guess kind of makes sense, if not out of guilt but just to help, but how would she know things would go different even if time was turned back more than a minute? (Also, as with so many suicide attacks... who develops these spells? How do you practice them?)

I'm not entirely sure whether Ultear will actually stay dead... this is FT after all. But I am sure someone will find out what she did. She's not going to die an unsung hero. Not in FT.

Also: That's some fine ass on page 4

I don't think so. 1 minute can be a huge difference in what you decide to do. It seemed to mostly cause them to flinch out of the way of attacks that would have hit.

[Soras Teva Gee]

So did Natsu just save the day... by accident?

[Socratov]

So did Natsu just save the day... by accident?

can I say that this statement is beautifully coherent with your avatar?

but, yes he did, though his talent to generate collateral damage is not to be underestimated.

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It's also funny how at first lucy whines that it will never succeed, and the very next moment natsu's talent saves the day.

[Macros]

Uh. Well that didn't last long.

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The funny thing was that while reading the chapter, I guessed that the best way to destroy the gate was to throw a dragon at it, and expected a dragged-out plan to achieve this result. Not quite.

So, what now ? Future!Rogue is still there, as far as we can tell. So are the dragons. Of course, it's entirely possible that they just need time to get a nice magical technicolor effect before every bad guy disappear, but... Well, that would certainly be a let-down.

[Soras Teva Gee]

I think how long depends on how much longer Hiro wants to keep this arc going.

[Kato]

I don't think so. 1 minute can be a huge difference in what you decide to do. It seemed to mostly cause them to flinch out of the way of attacks that would have hit.

Well, it's more that in just that one minute apparently three FT mages died and luckily just then Ultear cast her spell...

So, what now ? Future!Rogue is still there, as far as we can tell. So are the dragons. Of course, it's entirely possible that they just need time to get a nice magical technicolor effect before every bad guy disappear, but... Well, that would certainly be a let-down.

Well, I guess we will get some more fighting... I'd wager the dragons will disappear but Rogue will stick around? (Do we even know how exactly he got back? If he just walked through the gate, wouldn't someone have noticed? The same goes for Lucy....

[Cen]

New chap

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and strangely unfullfilling and pretty meh

[lord_khaine]

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Yeah, it was a cheap way to get rid of the dragons, and meh sums it up pretty well.

I really hope the recent quality has been so low because we apperently get 3 chapters out next week?

[Spacewolf]

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Looks like Lucy is stuck between two timelines since Natsus jacket keeps varying in length and she's got the same effect on her hands as the dragons did.

[LaZodiac]

New chap

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and strangely unfullfilling and pretty meh

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WELCOME TO FAIRY TAIL.

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Yeah, it was a cheap way to get rid of the dragons, and meh sums it up pretty well.

I really hope the recent quality has been so low because we apperently get 3 chapters out next week?

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It has to be. I honestly think Fairy Tail might be ending. You don't just get two weeks of around 57 chapters unless you're getting canceled, or they're thinking about turning you into a monthly and they're seeing how you look doing a monthly sized chapter.

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Looks like Lucy is stuck between two timelines since Natsus jacket keeps varying in length and she's got the same effect on her hands as the dragons did.

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I'm...not quite sure I understand what you mean. Could you explain?

So, my thoughts on the chapter:

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The fact that all the dragon slayers didn't actually kill a dragon, showing how weak they are, is pretty alright. I wish we got to SEE those fights, but naw we just don't get to see any fights, we instead focus on Gray getting killed and Ultear rewinding to save him and the others who die.

Also, THAT'S why he's called the Jade Dragon? I hope It turns out she's the Jade Dragon slayer and becomes a super serious character who's fighting style involves destroying the enemies clothing. Won't happen, but a super serious character having such a silly power might be remotely interesting.

Hey, anyone remember how Rave Master handled it's time travel story? And it's super god damn tragic end that killed my second favorite character? What HAPPENED to this mangaka to make him lose his writing edge?

[lord_khaine]

Hey, anyone remember how Rave Master handled it's time travel story? And it's super god damn tragic end that killed my second favorite character? What HAPPENED to this mangaka to make him lose his writing edge?

Yeah, you are thinking about the guy who got lost in time, and sacrificed himself to avoid messing with the timeline?

Or for that matter the death of the first Rave Master..
Thats really the quality of writing i am missing in FT atm, and i would gladly accept just 1 chapter per month if it would restore the quality.

[LaZodiac]

Yeah, you are thinking about the guy who got lost in time, and sacrificed himself to avoid messing with the timeline?

Or for that matter the death of the first Rave Master..
Thats really the quality of writing i am missing in FT atm, and i would gladly accept just 1 chapter per month if it would restore the quality.

I wasn't talking about the death of the first Rave Master, but you bring up a good point considering what happened with the old man Guild Master in FAiry Tail. And yes, I'm talking about Sieg and his, when faced with either possibly damaging the time line, or literally staying in one spot for the rest of eternity, until he died, he chose THE LATER.

[Kato]

Kind of late for the new chapter but... yeah, kind of a let down. At least considering this was probably the big finale. It sets up some stuff but unless it is a fake-out this was pretty meh.


So... what is this talk about a monthly chapter? To be quite frank I can't really see how this would have a big impact on the quality of the story?

[lord_khaine]

Well, if he spends 4 weeks of time on producing 3 chapters worth of material then we hope the last week is spend improving the quality.

[LaZodiac]

Kind of late for the new chapter but... yeah, kind of a let down. At least considering this was probably the big finale. It sets up some stuff but unless it is a fake-out this was pretty meh.


So... what is this talk about a monthly chapter? To be quite frank I can't really see how this would have a big impact on the quality of the story?

It was announced at the end of this chapter that Fairy Tail's next chapter will actually be the length of three chapters (more specifically it was announced to have three chapters released in one week). It will do this for two weeks.

Either this is a last push to see if Fairy Tail is popular enough to not get canceled, it's ending and this is just a speedy way of wrapping it up, or they're seeing how Fairy Tail looks as a monthly.

[Kato]

I got that bit about the more chapters (though, not the two weeks) but I can't quite see how this would change much about the quality of the plot. Admittedly, it gives Hiro more time to think about it but I feel this has very little impact on the quality... And I can't quite see how longer chapters would be an improvement, either.