Goblins X: Orcs fall, everybody dies (horribly)

[Douglas]

I don't question whether the holy symbol is on his mace. I'm questioning why a cleric would be so stupid as to pack both of them away when wandering around a dungeon.

Weren't you listening? It's heavy!

Forgath's player must be really into roleplaying finicky minor details and damn the consequences. I don't think anyone I've ever played with would care about the weight of a weapon beyond checking that they're not breaking an encumbrance limit.

[Traab]

I don't question whether the holy symbol is on his mace. I'm questioning why a cleric would be so stupid as to pack both of them away when wandering around a dungeon.

THEY ARE HEAVY!!!! :p So yeah, get his holy symbol transferred to his pillow weapon and problem solved.

[Androgeus]

I don't question whether the holy symbol is on his mace. I'm questioning why a cleric would be so stupid as to pack both of them away when wandering around a dungeon.

I refer you to last panel of the current comic, "IT'S HEAVY!"

[Starbuck_II]

I can't recall and don't want to go archive-diving...have we ever actually seen Herbert's holy symbol?

Here it is on bottom of mace
http://goblinscomic.com/10012005/

Here is him casting while holding mace (mace glows from magic weapon)
http://goblinscomic.com/12142005/

[Susano-wo]

Yeah, a funny line, but its pretty damned face-palmy. I doubt Forgath the dwarven Cleric who lugs around heavy armor all the damned time has to worry about an 8 pound (or so) mace, especially if it was holstered in some way(strap, loop attached to his belt, whatever.

Oh and hellz yeah that strip's amazing with the shading(though an option to view original would be nice, even if only for the contrast)

[Yuki Akuma]

He's a dwarf, heavy armour doesn't slow him down.

[Susano-wo]

yeah, and? I'm saying he lugs around so much weight that mace isn't gonna make much of a difference, especially since he's likely to have good physical stats

[Qwertystop]

Thing is, good armor has straps and padding and such so the weight is distributed. It's like how it's easier to carry a book in a backpack instead of in your arms, even though it's the same weight (and in the latter case you also add the weight of the backpack).

Actually, it's pretty much exactly like that.

[Susano-wo]

yeah, the weight is easier to bear...but there's a lot of it, especially on the extremities(well, not the weight, but the effects of it would be felt more). strapping a mace to your side or whatnot would not significantly affect Forgath, at least not enough to not have his weapon available.

I could buy him having to take time to unfasten it, especially if it was tightly secured, but its just not credible that he would risk his weapon being unavailable if something happens to Minmax, or in the unlikely occurance that Minmax goes off half-cocked

[Starbuck_II]

yeah, and? I'm saying he lugs around so much weight that mace isn't gonna make much of a difference, especially since he's likely to have good physical stats

Why would you assume Forgath has good Str? Con is the only bonus race gives. He needs Wisdom for casting. And he needs high Cha to offset race penalty for turning or convincing Minmax (diplomacy).

[Traab]

Susan has a point, while yeah, holding it in your hands at all time would wear anyone down, putting it in a belt loop wouldnt. Its just a really stupid joke setup.

[Susano-wo]

because he's a cleric, most of whom have good physical stats. He also looks pretty beefy, really.

also, thanks for backing me up....but I'm a dude. the hyphen is after the o...its a Japanese Storm god.(why did I get attached to this handle??)

[t209]

Why would you assume Forgath has good Str? Con is the only bonus race gives. He needs Wisdom for casting. And he needs high Cha to offset race penalty for turning or convincing Minmax (diplomacy).

I wonder who started all Dwarven Cleric Shenanigans.

[Androgeus]

Perhaps the mace is made of heavytanium, and thus weighs loads more than a normal mace

[Acanous]

To be fair, Forgath has ALWAYS kept the mace in a backpack, all the way back since the first battle with the Warcamp.

We really shouldn't be surprised about it by now.

[Ravens_cry]

On the other hand, her character worships the DM, so she's pretty meta all things considered.

[Anteros]

Who cares? It's perfectly in character and it makes sense in universe. It's not the wisest thing in the world to do...but these aren't exactly the wisest characters so that's ok as well.

[Acanous]

Who cares? It's perfectly in character and it makes sense in universe. It's not the wisest thing in the world to do...but these aren't exactly the wisest characters so that's ok as well.

Actually, being a cleric, Forgath likely has a high wisdom.
It's at least 11.

[willpell]

Actually, being a cleric, Forgath likely has a high wisdom.
It's at least 11.

Just because he has it doesn't mean he knows how to use it....

On a possibly related subject, I dealt with the monitor issue today...sort of. I confirmed that my monitor's physical wheel for Contrast is at maximum, so I turned Brightness up and am now able to see the grays in the strip properly. However I expect that I will regret this decision the next time I wake up in a dark room. And I did not find any controls under Display in my Control Panel which allow for fine-tuning of brightness/contrast; they appear to be left entirely under the control of those two wheels under my monitor. There isn't even an onscreen display, let alone software access.

[BannedInSchool]

On a possibly related subject, I dealt with the monitor issue today...sort of. I confirmed that my monitor's physical wheel for Contrast is at maximum, so I turned Brightness up and am now able to see the grays in the strip properly.

The Contrast being all the way up would, as I recall CRTs, be the reason your near-black was being contrasted down closer to black. Lowering the contrast would make your blacks brighter, and bringing the near-black up to not entirely black, without increasing the brightness of your white. Although with the way CRTs sometimes behave the two aren't necessarily entirely independent of each other.

[Marnath]

Just because he has it doesn't mean he knows how to use it....

On a possibly related subject, I dealt with the monitor issue today...sort of. I confirmed that my monitor's physical wheel for Contrast is at maximum, so I turned Brightness up and am now able to see the grays in the strip properly. However I expect that I will regret this decision the next time I wake up in a dark room.

That should be easily solved by a dark screensaver. Like the shooting stars one that comes standard with Windows.

[willpell]

The Contrast being all the way up would, as I recall CRTs, be the reason your near-black was being contrasted down closer to black. Lowering the contrast would make your blacks brighter, and bringing the near-black up to not entirely black, without increasing the brightness of your white.

Unfortunately turning down the contrast even a little just makes everything a washed-out gray. I almost wonder if the wheels are labeled backwards, as contrast appears to darken everything while brightness only appears to brighten the whites.

That should be easily solved by a dark screensaver. Like the shooting stars one that comes standard with Windows.

Don't use a screensaver; I just turn the monitor off. When I have historically had a screensaver, it would often cut in while I was reading or something; it became caustic to my limited patience and I stopped bothering. Besides which, even when the screen is black, it's glowing black. In the first seconds of wakefulness even that's enough to hurt my eyes.

[HandofShadows]

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They make a decent team here.

[Traab]

I honestly dont get exactly what happened there. It looked like

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They got pulled down by the horde of zombies, then suddenly they stopped, looked at each other, and were back to fighting, this time as a team? What?

[John Cribati]

I honestly dont get exactly what happened there. It looked like

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They got pulled down by the horde of zombies, then suddenly they stopped, looked at each other, and were back to fighting, this time as a team? What?

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when Minmax was on his back, Forgath was still upright, so he jumped, pulling Minmax up.

[Frecus]

It's a bit confusing but yeah, it looks like that.

Frecus
The glade wanderer
Madwarrior

[Marnath]

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when Minmax was on his back, Forgath was still upright, so he jumped, pulling Minmax up.

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And then following that there was an epiphany, and Minmax is now using Forgath as an improvised flail.

[Draconi Redfir]

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Also Minmax leaned backwards to dodge a zombie punch and lost his balance from Forgath, causing him to slip and fall. Forgath landed first and pushed Minmax back up

[Susano-wo]

wow, he pushed Minmax up with enough force and momentum to ride him up :P (rock on forgath!)
its almost as though he has an impressive strength score. WIIIIINK

[DomaDoma]

That last panel was just Jack levels of unclear fight scene. For all the ragging Thunt gets on his fight scenes, you can always at least tell what's going on in them. Apparently, the Battle of Brassmoon couldn't break the streak, but zombies, for whatever reason, did. Thanks for clarifying, Mamath.