Pokémon Thread XIV: Return of the Pokémon Thread Strikes Back Harder

[Mando Knight]

Same here, trying to figure out what the arcing theme would be and the best I can think of are glorious Science! and possibly equality.

No idea how you get equality out of that...

So. Completely 3D, probably another 100+ new Pokes and names that completely leave behind the traditional patterns.

How so? The games have names that seem to step away from tradition, but they fit nicely with the pairings we have had so far (Red/Green, Gold/Silver, Ruby/Sapphire, Diamond/Pearl, Black/White). With the exception of Black and White, each of them are not-quite-opposites with a complementary third unit.

The starters are pretty much 3/3 on traditional Pokémon-type names.

Yup, coordinate planes. My friend and I decided that X version will be completely horizontal, while Y version will take place in a (vertical) skyscraper.

1.) Axes, which make a plane...
2.) In the usual orientation of the axes, the XY plane is horizontal, with the Z axis being the vertical one.

[NineThePuma]

On paper, Y is vertical while X is left-right and Z is depth.

[Tanuki Tales]

How so? The games have names that seem to step away from tradition, .

That's exactly what I meant.

They're the first main games since Crystal that aren't a color.

[Qwertystop]

That's exactly what I meant.

They're the first main games since Crystal that aren't a color.

Other than Diamond and Pearl. The other gem ones could go either way as to whether they're colors, but Diamond and Pearl aren't colors any more than Crystal is.

[Tanuki Tales]

Other than Diamond and Pearl. The other gem ones could go either way as to whether they're colors, but Diamond and Pearl aren't colors any more than Crystal is.

Pearl actually is a color.

Diamond isn't unless you want to call it colorless, so I forgot that one.

Edit:

And I'm wrong again.

There is a color called Diamond. It's Hex #7D1242.

[NineThePuma]

I thought crystal was like a milky pale blue?

[Tanuki Tales]

I thought crystal was like a milky pale blue?

Got an example? Because I'm not finding any color called Crystal, let alone one in the shades of blue. Though I'll be highly amused if every single Pokemon version to date was a color.

[Gullara]

Does this mean males can get both versions, but females are only allowed X?

It's sexism I tell you! I'm going to write a strongly worded letter to Nintendo immediately!

[Qwertystop]

Pearl actually is a color.

Diamond isn't unless you want to call it colorless, so I forgot that one.

Um... pearls aren't always one particular color any more than diamonds are. A really perfectly colorless diamond isn't even average, it's just a sort of standard.

[Illven]

It's sexism I tell you! I'm going to write a strongly worded letter to Nintendo immediately!

And I'm canceling my pre-order!

[Foeofthelance]

But you can't do that anyway, since your time in the DW is limited by your account, and not your game - I can log in and play in the DW with all four of my Gen V games at once, provided I gamesync them one after the other - but I still don't get more than an hour total, in the DW before I get timed out.

I don't believe it has anything to do with the Dream World, but with the daily/monthly activities in game. You'd have to check the code, but my wager is that when the game is plugged into a DS is checks the clock and DS's ID and notes them somewhere. Then it saves that info, checks it against the DS next time its turned on and it doesn't match what the game is looking for then it automatically locks out all time based activities. I've done the same thing to my own games by testing whether or not the calendar could be changed on the same DS unit.

As for new games, yay!

[Thormag]

Holy guacamole I can't believe it. Finally, after so much time!

Gotta say that my heart was racing while it was happening right before my eyes, but the screen wasn't lying and finally... I got a shiny Audino.

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Also, something called X and Y was announced?

In all seriousness (regarding GEN 6), at first the only starter that I liked was the chipmunk, but after realizing that the frog has spectacles... I think I'm in love. The fennec fox is cool too, but I'll reserve my love until I'm absolutely certain that Trollfreak won't give us yet another Fire/Fighting starter.

Damn... I need to buy a 3DS now.

[Forrestfire]

Nice shiny!

And yeah, the frog is adorable. He's got tiny little glasses!

[enderlord99]

Holy guacamole I can't believe it. Finally, after so much time!

Gotta say that my heart was racing while it was happening right before my eyes, but the screen wasn't lying and finally... I got a shiny Audino.

Spoiler

Show

Also, something called X and Y was announced?

In all seriousness (regarding GEN 6), at first the only starter that I liked was the chipmunk, but after realizing that the frog has spectacles... I think I'm in love. The fennec fox is cool too, but I'll reserve my love until I'm absolutely certain that Trollfreak won't give us yet another Fire/Fighting starter.

Damn... I need to buy a 3DS now.

...Black2 and White2? What does that have to do with the rest of your post?

[Thormag]

...Black2 and White2? What does that have to do with the rest of your post?

I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not, but Black2/White2 is part of the fifth generation.

[enderlord99]

I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not, but Black2/White2 is part of the fifth generation.

...If it adds new pokemon that can never be obtained in any older game, including through trading, it's a new generation to me. What's your definition?

[Qwertystop]

...If it adds new pokemon that can never be obtained in any older game, including through trading, it's a new generation to me. What's your definition?

So the addition of Kyurem-B and Kyurem-W is enough for a new generation? Actually, are those Formes or is it a permanant two-for-one swap? I've been repeatedly distracted and only just got to Victory Road's entrance in my B2.

Personally, I take it to mean a new region*. Which usually also comes with new pokemon. Adding a route and two alt-forms doesn't count.

*not including spinoffs

[Thormag]

New Pokémon, new region, new characters and new moves. Black2/White2 gives you new characters and Kyurem-W/B and the Kami trio formes, but I wouldn't consider them "new" Pokémon.

[Geno9999]

Yeah, it would be like saying Pt/HG/SS should be considered a different generation since it gave new forms to Rotom.

[Othesemo]

...If it adds new pokemon that can never be obtained in any older game, including through trading, it's a new generation to me. What's your definition?

Let's see. With Giratina-O, Speed Deoxys, and Kyurem-B/W, that would put us at- Generation 9. Damn, Nintendo's really getting ahead of itself.

Actually, Pokemon FireRed and LeafGreen introduced Deoxys attack and defense, so Generation 10.

Yeah, it would be like saying Pt/HG/SS should be considered a different generation since it gave new forms to Rotom.

Oh, sorry, forgot about this. Generation 11.

[Alabenson]

...If it adds new pokemon that can never be obtained in any older game, including through trading, it's a new generation to me. What's your definition?

Honestly, I define a new generation as one that brings us a new region with new starters.

[Tanuki Tales]

Um... pearls aren't always one particular color any more than diamonds are. A really perfectly colorless diamond isn't even average, it's just a sort of standard.

Boom

And

Boom:

Diamond #7D1242 73% 95% 100% 190° 100% 86% 100% 100%

( Reference)

[Mando Knight]

So the addition of Kyurem-B and Kyurem-W is enough for a new generation? Actually, are those Formes or is it a permanant two-for-one swap? I've been repeatedly distracted and only just got to Victory Road's entrance in my B2.

Those are Formes, and you can switch in and out of them freely by using the DNA Splicers... use the Splicers and select either Reshiram or Zekrom to fuse, then use the Splicers again to de-fuse.

...If it adds new pokemon that can never be obtained in any older game, including through trading, it's a new generation to me. What's your definition?

Bad definition unless you want to say that we're in Gen VII... Platinum did what BW2 did with regards to Formes (Origin Giratina and Appliance Rotom, similarly to Black/White Kyurem and Therian Tornadus/Thundurus/Landorus).

A better definition would be in regards to a major change in the main series: a new region, a large number of completely new Pokémon (not simply form changes), new moves, new items, and major code changes.

[Tanuki Tales]

Isn't it safe to say that what sets one generation apart from another is the introduction of new starters?

[OracleofWuffing]

Starters look promising, I concur above, it certainly looks like Fire/Psychic and Water/Fighting and Grass/something (I missed the second move, but Grass/Dark does sound rather jolly for a change.)

Cacturne would like to give you a hug right now.

Pokemon X and Y: A version for her and him. *nodnod*

That, and the creepy fanfiction writes itself!

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Well, the thing that has me excited is that I saw Mr. Froggy's second attack actually touched the defending pokemon in the battle visualization. I mean, I'm still not getting my hopes up, 'cause that sort of thing was in the PBR previews and all the other attacks followed the old cut-out style, but hooray! Progress! STILL PICKING THE GRASS STARTER.

[tonberrian]

I figure that the "third" games are going to be XX and XY.

[Thormag]

Cacturne would like to give you a hug right now.

Shiftry says hi.

[OracleofWuffing]

Yeah, but Cacturne hugging someone just has more schadenfreude.

...Did I seriously just spell that word right the first time around!?

[Mando Knight]

I figure that the "third" games are going to be XX and XY.

Z is more likely, IMO.

[SaintRidley]

Let's see. With Giratina-O, Speed Deoxys, and Kyurem-B/W, that would put us at- Generation 9. Damn, Nintendo's really getting ahead of itself.

Actually, Pokemon FireRed and LeafGreen introduced Deoxys attack and defense, so Generation 10.



Oh, sorry, forgot about this. Generation 11.

FR and LG gave us Deoxys forms that could not be obtained even between each other. They should each be a separate generation, like how Emerald apparently does.

R/B/Y - Generation 1.

G/S/C - Generation 2.

Ruby/Sapphire make generation 3.

FireRed gave us Deoxys Attack. Generation 4.

LeafGreen gave us Deoxys Defense. Generation 5.

Emerald gave us Deoxys Speed. Generation 6.

Diamond/Pearl. Generation 7.

Platinum gives us Giratina Origin etc. Generation 8.

HeartGold/SoulSilver gives us Spiky-Eared Pichu. Generation 9.

Black/White. Generation 10.

Black 2/White 2. Generation 11.

X/Y. Generation 12.


Am I missing any?