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Thread: El Goonish Shive
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2013-10-07, 08:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-10-07, 09:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-10-07, 09:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Usually, but not always.
Still, even then, it was fairly obvious what was going on.I use black for sarcasm.
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2013-10-07, 11:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah, this is almost certainly a staged scene planned in advance for the review show. The question is, are they going to show Sarah throwing (possibly photoshopped) couches?
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2013-10-07, 12:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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So they've gotten tired of reviews and are trying a cage-fight concept?
Yeah, I agree. I think this is staged. Going back, it really was pretty much as mutual as it could have possibly been.
On a tangent, it was also a pretty damn good segment.Quoth the raven, "Polly wants a cracker."
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2013-10-07, 12:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm thinking that it's a dream sequence that Susan's having. About her conflict between her attraction to Elliot and wanting to believe that it was mutual and there are no hard feelings (Look at her face in Panel 4), and her Loyalty to Sarah.
That, and there is no date given, framing when this scene takes place. We usually get one of those at the beginning of an arc. Unless it's a dream arc (See Power Fantasy)
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2013-10-07, 11:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm pretty sure it's a dream. The commentary makes mention of 'an earlier dream sequence' for one thing.
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2013-10-08, 12:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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*reads latest comic*
Yeah... I'm going with dream sequence on this one...LGBTAitP
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2013-10-08, 12:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-10-08, 04:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Actually I think its a real show, its just they are playing it for laughs. Its what I'd expect Nostalgia Critic to do, and their show is based on it.
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2013-10-08, 06:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-10-08, 04:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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According to the commentary:
I found panel five a little bit difficult to stage until I remembered that a) Sarah isn't actually throwing anything and b) it's SUPPOSED to look cheesy and bad. That made matters rather simple.
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2013-10-09, 03:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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And we have an in-comics confirmation, that it was just a show.
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2013-10-09, 04:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Elliot, you are scaring me. You are far too happy - much happier than this situation merits.
Now you need to channel that happiness into something productive, like dating Susan.I use black for sarcasm.
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2013-10-10, 11:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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It's not going to happen. Both are overly worried about offending Sarah, and neither would have a clue how to even initiate that. Meanwhile Diane is a nice substitute for Elliot, and she already has her sights on him. I wager Elliot dating Diane, even if briefly, and Susan then feeling jealousy is the only way it's ever going to happen.
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2013-10-12, 06:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Considering that when Sarah talked to Nanase she was 100% fine with letting Susan date Elliot its not impossible that Sarah could simply say, "Sure go date Susan I am not offended at all by it". That probably would be enough.
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2013-10-13, 12:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Right. Sarah would be fine with it. But both of them openly assume it wouldn't be cool.
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2013-10-13, 01:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-10-13, 01:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-10-13, 11:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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0_o
what the…
two Dianes!?!
the person who is after Elliot is separate from Diane?
I'm confused.
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2013-10-14, 02:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Wait, what...
Although I have to agree with Diane here. Elliot, you sweet summer child...LGBTAitP
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2013-10-14, 04:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-10-14, 12:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-10-14, 12:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yes. Because we're all to assume that these people are reacting to watching the video for the first time. So if it's Diane is in the last panel watching it on her phone with rounded corners, then it can't be her in the previous panel watching it on a bigger screen with angular corners.
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2013-10-14, 01:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-10-14, 01:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-10-14, 01:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Thing is, Susan has been single for ages and ages (has she ever even had a partner?). If this person was advancing on Susan, why had they not done it at any time before? I mean, if they were that interested, they'd not wait their chance out in that manner.
Bear with me now, as I explain my harebrained ruminations.
Note how the skull of the silhouette in panel five is round and smooth. This could mean that 1) the character is wearing a beanie or other tight, smooth head garment, or 2) the character is bald. I can't be entirely sure, but since they're indoors, I'll go with the baldness option.
The same baldness suggests this is a man. The most common type of baldness, male pattern baldness, is much more common in males (hence the name).
If this is a man, and we assume that the reasoning about Susan above holds, then there are two further options, namely 1) that he is gay, interested in Elliot and so smokingly hot that he counts on Elliot being as well once he's done (highly unlikely) or 2) that his interest in Elliot and Susan has nothing at all to do with his own involvement, but is a reaction to something that will or is highly likely to happen once they get together. Presumably, something that relates to Susan. Maybe something that has to do with her trauma.
This is my hypothesis. Watch it burn.
Edit: Oh, and the girl in the third panel who is silently tsundere to herself is cute.Last edited by Weimann; 2013-10-14 at 01:49 PM.
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2013-10-14, 01:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Counter: because Susan is so scary, the fact that she had no chance to be with Elliot meant that boldy's "move" needn't happen just yet. Mr. Bold has been putting it off, because there is a decent chance he will not escape with all his limbs attached if he seriously offends Susan. But with Elliot back in the dating pool, he can't put it off any longer.
Also, I should say that male pattern baldness doesn't give you a completely bald head. I find it more likely this is a purposely shaven head, which many people can pull off.
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2013-10-14, 02:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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If this person judges the success of an encounter with Susan by the number of extremities they retain afterwards, I dare say they'd do well in rethinking the whole affair.
No, but honestly, though. I really think that no matter what this person is up to, they'll be competent at it. Otherwise they'd not have been hyped up with an ominous silhouette frame and all. The thought of them not making a move due to fear of rejection (or dismemberment) just makes me believe all the stronger that this has nothing to do with relationship jealousy at all. Particularly since Diane (and, it seems, the majority of the female specimen in the greater region) already has that angle covered.
I'll concede that. I think there'd be stubble if it was a shaved head, though, but maybe the silhouette is just to stylized to bother with that.
Actually, when I think about it, it could also just be the same girl that's in panel four, I guess? She talks something about Eliott maybe having "realized" something, and it'd flow well into the next frame. Her screen has sharp edges, just like the shadow's, and her hair is kind of flat. The only thing is that you can see the shadow's ears, while hers are covered by her hair. I don't know, just struck me right now.Quoth the raven, "Polly wants a cracker."
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2013-10-14, 02:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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