[Nexus] OOC 37: What Goes Here Again?

[Hattish Thing]

If bold light blue is Marty Rage voice, I'm rather puzzled why he'd have considered applying for a job as a lab minion. "And now I will get my ultimate revenge on those who have wronged me... by washing beakers and running the autoclave!"

Also @Zefir: *pokes to Warwick Works*

Well, you see... Certain chemicals are only available in large, well-stocked laboratories, and he wants a few beakers of a few.

AS for the voice thing, I got reeeeallly tired of writing his stutter text, so I kinda changed it as fast as possible. Writing l-l-like this c-can b-be very annoying after a w-while, and t-takes up a l-lot of t-t-time for me to type. (No offense to anyone with a speech impediment.

And, Goddess, Mee? There's a goddess in that scene?! Where?! Who's Goddess?! Wha-?

[McBish]

@Hatter from Page 47 of outside.

It... just doesn't work.

Marty feels an enormous surge of magic pulse from Trissy's body as a naked female drow, surrounded by shadows and moonlight, emerges from her body.

I am Eilistraee. You shall not take my priestess.

[Hattish Thing]

@Hatter from Page 47 of outside.

Princess? Trissy's a princess? She never told MArty in their two years of marriage when he was still sane? That... Um... Might have changed the way MArty was going to go about this whole thing. Um. Okay.. Huh. So the legendary goddess of good drow appeared.... Okay.

[McBish]

It... just doesn't work.

Marty feels an enormous surge of magic pulse from Trissy's body as a naked female drow, surrounded by shadows and moonlight, emerges from her body.

I am Eilistraee. You shall not take my priestess.

Priestess, probably where she got her magic from. There was then a two page break till you responded from a poke from her. I'm surprised DEB didn't have her say anything in the posts following.

[Hattish Thing]

Priestess, probably where she got her magic from. There was then a two page break till you responded from a poke from her. I'm surprised DEB didn't have her say anything in the posts following.

Or remind me she was here, instead of following along with the post I made. Oooooh! Priestess! Makes a little more sense, Marty knew she was a cleric. Mhm. Well, Marty's running away quickly.

And, I'm placing it here so no one complains later.

Marty's new Rage abilities: (None of these I or GrandDM pulled out of our nether regions, we made a deal. ((It's s surprise!)) )

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You asked what else Marty can do, so here we go:

As I mentioned earlier, Marty can enhance his physical attributes. In more detail, and to give you an idea of how much: when Marty is putting all his effort into bolstering his physical attributes, he could take a full-strength punch from Superman. Similarly, he could knock Superman out with one hit.

The blackfire is a unique attribute of Rage; it's a magical energy that withers all it touches. It causes muscles to atrophy, minds to regress and souls to burn. It's possible both to throw bolts of blackfire and to wreath Marty in it.

The 'using anger to twist others' is less of a direct mind-control and more of a subtle-influence thing. Marty couldn't directly force someone to join him, but if that someone had a lot of hate, it could be twisted to be aimed at the Nexus so that they join Marty because they're looking for the same thing.

As to the detailed list:
Teleportation
Effortless flight (he can just lift himself off the ground by willing it)
Super-Roar (loud enough and strong enough to shatter eardrums, fracture bones, damage the ground and send people flying)
All Marty's magic is now supercharged
The angrier Marty gets, the stronger he gets (like the Hulk)

Hope this helps
-DM

[happyturtle]

Well, you see... Certain chemicals are only available in large, well-stocked laboratories, and he wants a few beakers of a few.

He's already disqualified himself by his poor reading comprehension. Also, I kind of doubt he could fake sane long enough to make it through a job interview.

[Hattish Thing]

He's already disqualified himself by his poor reading comprehension. Also, I kind of doubt he could fake sane long enough to make it through a job interview.

Probably not. Seeing however as things have changed, and his lab rat is now protected by a goddess, he won't be going anywhere near civilized society for a while.

[BladeofObliviom]

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You asked what else Marty can do, so here we go:

As I mentioned earlier, Marty can enhance his physical attributes. In more detail, and to give you an idea of how much: when Marty is putting all his effort into bolstering his physical attributes, he could take a full-strength punch from Superman. Similarly, he could knock Superman out with one hit.

The blackfire is a unique attribute of Rage; it's a magical energy that withers all it touches. It causes muscles to atrophy, minds to regress and souls to burn. It's possible both to throw bolts of blackfire and to wreath Marty in it.

The 'using anger to twist others' is less of a direct mind-control and more of a subtle-influence thing. Marty couldn't directly force someone to join him, but if that someone had a lot of hate, it could be twisted to be aimed at the Nexus so that they join Marty because they're looking for the same thing.

As to the detailed list:
Teleportation
Effortless flight (he can just lift himself off the ground by willing it)
Super-Roar (loud enough and strong enough to shatter eardrums, fracture bones, damage the ground and send people flying)
All Marty's magic is now supercharged
The angrier Marty gets, the stronger he gets (like the Hulk)

...What. And he's running away from the God? With that kind of ridiculous power, any Forgotten Realms God short of maybe Ao should be running for their freaking life.

Seriously, Superman wasn't even knocked out by six full-fledged black holes appearing around his body due to Brainiac's ship exploding around him. Knocking out Superman with one punch is enough strength to literally shatter a planet with an errant footstep. And he gets STRONGER when he gets angry? Seriously, if he's capable of knocking out Superman easily at his basic level of strength and actually gets stronger from there, that teleportation ability pretty much becomes necessary for motion because he'd cause massive sinkholes wherever he steps.

Also, congratulations! You've officially made a character that makes Oblivion look fair and balanced by comparison, without even factoring his superpowered magic into the comparison! Whee!

Tossing in superpowered magic is just like saying "Oh, being strong enough to literally shatter worlds with a poke isn't enough, so let's also make him an overpowered wizard." Oh, and the Blackfire annoys me a bit too because it's literally just Cyrus' Blightning spell, which has been thus far relatively unique, except stronger, more versatile, and in the form of fire.

Seriously, when you've designed a character that is, as written, superior in every way to somebody else's intentionally overpowered character (who, it should be noted, I usually tone down for the sake of being able to RP with other people), I'd ask you to scale it down a bit. Because no.

[Hattish Thing]

...What. And he's running away from the God? With that kind of ridiculous power, any Forgotten Realms God short of maybe Ao should be running for their freaking life.

Seriously, Superman wasn't even knocked out by six full-fledged black holes appearing around his body due to Brainiac's ship exploding around him. Knocking out Superman with one punch is enough strength to literally shatter a planet with an errant footstep. And he gets STRONGER when he gets angry? Seriously, if he's capable of knocking out Superman easily at his basic level of strength and actually gets stronger from there, that teleportation ability pretty much becomes necessary for motion because he'd cause massive sinkholes wherever he steps.

Also, congratulations! You've officially made a character that makes Oblivion look fair and balanced by comparison, without even factoring his superpowered magic into the comparison! Whee!

Tossing in superpowered magic is just like saying "Oh, being strong enough to literally shatter worlds with a poke isn't enough, so let's also make him an overpowered wizard." Oh, and the Blackfire annoys me a bit too because it's literally just Cyrus' Blightning spell, which has been thus far relatively unique, except stronger, more versatile, and in the form of fire.

Seriously, when you've designed a character that is, as written, superior in every way to somebody else's intentionally overpowered character (who, it should be noted, I usually tone down for the sake of being able to RP with other people), I'd ask you to scale it down a bit. Because no.

In that timeline, he does not have any of those powers. So, yes. He's running from the god.

And as for the rest of the stuff, Blade, I'd advise you ask GrandDM. He's the one that thought up these powers and spells. So, please don't attack me for it. I didn't write those powers in. GrandDM did. My character is sharing a body with his character, Rage. All those powers are Rages, but Rage needs a physical body to use it. That whole thing you just typed was extremely offensive to me. EXTREMELY. I don't read Superman comics, I have no clue what Brainiac is or any of that. Honestly, that wsa really not cool, and I'm not at fault here.

[BladeofObliviom]

In that timeline, he does not have any of those powers. So, yes. He's running from the god.

And as for the rest of the stuff, Blade, I'd advise you ask GrandDM. He's the one that thought up these powers and spells. So, please don't attack me for it. I didn't write those powers in. GrandDM did. My character is sharing a body with his character, Rage. All those powers are Rages, but Rage needs a physical body to use it. That whole thing you just typed was extremely offensive to me. EXTREMELY. I don't read Superman comics, I have no clue what Brainiac is or any of that. Honestly, that wsa really not cool, and I'm not at fault here.

My apologies, then: I'd misinterpreted the phrase "we made a deal" to mean that this had been a joint effort; the word 'you' was actually used in a plural sense.

[Hattish Thing]

My apologies, then: I'd misinterpreted the phrase "we made a deal" to mean that this had been a joint effort; the word 'you' was actually used in a plural sense.

Well, I'm sorry. HE sent me the list of things Marty can now do. I posted it here to make sure everyone knew what happens, so that discussions, exactly like what happened wouldn't happen, because I am tired of being attacked in the OOC.

[Aric Kale]

While I agree the new Marty is overpowered, just in reference to the superman death punch, he can only do so while focusing solely on that ability. So he isn't always God powered, he has to concentrate on that ability, negating his ability to use any other power in his arsenal.
I may have interpreted this incorrectly, but I thought he could only use one of these powers at a time.
Either way, Marty shouldn't be able to have the strength given to him by Rage without tearing himself apart from the sheer power.

[BladeofObliviom]

Well, I'm sorry. HE sent me the list of things Marty can now do. I posted it here to make sure everyone knew what happens, so that discussions, exactly like what happened wouldn't happen, because I am tired of being attacked in the OOC.

Attack?

Where did you get the idea that I'm attacking you? You'd know if I was attacking you because I'd make deliberate efforts to insult you, belittle you, or suggest that you stop RPing here, or any number of other, vicious things. I wouldn't attack anyone here, unless they really were just so genuinely terrible and unwilling to learn that there was no hope of them ever figuring out decent RP.

What I said was hardly an attack, but merely a (to be fair, admittedly somewhat caustic) criticism. I'm guilty of the same crime, long past, after all.

And just for the record, claiming that your own character's list of abilities isn't your responsibility because someone else's character supplied them is like a murderer claiming that he didn't shoot the guy because somebody else sold him the gun.

[Hattish Thing]

Attack?

Where did you get the idea that I'm attacking you? You'd know if I was attacking you because I'd make deliberate efforts to insult you, belittle you, or suggest that you stop RPing here, or any number of other, vicious things. I wouldn't attack anyone here, unless they really were just so genuinely terrible and unwilling to learn that there was no hope of them ever figuring out decent RP.

What I said was hardly an attack, but merely a (to be fair, admittedly somewhat caustic) criticism. I'm guilty of the same crime, long past, after all.

And just for the record, claiming that your own character's list of abilities isn't your responsibility because someone else's character supplied them is like a murderer claiming that he didn't shoot the guy because somebody else sold him the gun.

Well, then what should I do? I just got the list of new things today, and haven't played as Marty with them yet. So, would you like to have them tamed down somehow? OR just get rid of certain abilities? Honeslty the combat stuff really doesn't fit my character at all. The magic stuff, fits much better, and I wouldn't mind just having flight, numbfrost, the... black flame thing and such. But the ability to knock out a god is really not something Marty would have, or even want. I got the list TODAY, so I have not had time to discuss much, or even try anything. And, to be honest... Everyone said that Louv're Tower was incredibly overpowered, and Cyrus, Clarrissa and co have so far cleared through it all fairly easily.

[ThirdEmperor]

That's because most of the overpowered stuff was edited out.

There was a point when every one of the footsoldiers was armed with enough antimatter to take out the planet.

[Hattish Thing]

That's because most of the overpowered stuff was edited out.

There was a point when every one of the footsoldiers was armed with enough antimatter to take out the planet.

Good point. Though that was mainly due to me having written that out after exams, and completely brain-farting about how powerful anti-matter was..

Okay. Sorry Blade, got all defensive and pissy. My apologies. How about we keep Teleportation, sonic shout (Weakened), and supercharged magic? Taking out flight, super-strength, and using anger to bewitch others?

[BladeofObliviom]

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Well, you hardly have to drop everything; It's acceptable to make him strong, it's just that world-shattering strength makes other people think "Wow, that guy's too strong for my character to fight with any modicum of fairness! I'm just going to ignore him unless he attacks me, then I'll complain OOC". I'm not saying that you shouldn't make your character a threat. "Able to knock Superman out in one punch" is an absurdity, but something a bit more tame, like "able to uproot trees and throw cars", is manageable for other characters but still very clearly both dangerous and superhuman.

Similarly, having strong magical abilities is certainly not too much for the Nexus to handle. Look at Cyrus, Calublufiok, or Rael Kairos; all three of these characters are incredibly powerful mages, capable of reshaping reality around them to some degree, but all have a clear set of limitations. Cyrus can't cast from several different spell schools due to his highly focused nature, Calublufiok always works through proxies rather than becoming directly involved, and Rael's magic relies on biological creatures, having very limited options against any kind of mechanical threat. Basically, having awesome magic is fine, but just don't overdo it too much.

On a more personal note (you don't really have to, but it'd be nice), I'd prefer if Blackfire were weakened a bit. It's currently written as a stronger form of Cyrus' signature spell, which just bothers me when he's kind of supposed to be a respected Archmage.


EDIT: That would probably work, and generally make the guy a lot more tolerable in terms of keeping everything straight.

For my part, I apologize for jumping on you so quickly and so harshly. I definitely didn't mean to attack you, but reading over my own post I can see that some of my words were a lot more vitriolic than were necessary.

[Hattish Thing]

Well, you hardly have to drop everything; It's acceptable to make him strong, it's just that world-shattering strength makes other people think "Wow, that guy's too strong for my character to fight with any modicum of fairness! I'm just going to ignore him unless he attacks me, then I'll complain OOC". I'm not saying that you shouldn't make your character a threat. "Able to knock Superman out in one punch" is an absurdity, but something a bit more tame, like "able to uproot trees and throw cars", is manageable for other characters but still very clearly both dangerous and superhuman.

Similarly, having strong magical abilities is certainly not too much for the Nexus to handle. Look at Cyrus, Calublufiok, or Rael Kairos; all three of these characters are incredibly powerful mages, capable of reshaping reality around them to some degree, but all have a clear set of limitations. Cyrus can't cast from several different spell schools due to his highly focused nature, Calublufiok always works through proxies rather than becoming directly involved, and Rael's magic relies on biological creatures, having very limited options against any kind of mechanical threat. Basically, having awesome magic is fine, but just don't overdo it too much.

On a more personal note (you don't really have to, but it'd be nice), I'd prefer if Blackfire were weakened a bit. It's currently written as a stronger form of Cyrus' signature spell, which just bothers me when he's kind of supposed to be a respected Archmage.

Okey-dokey, I can do that. So I'll still keep the strength to uproot trees, and lift very heavy objects, but nothing too absurd. I can do that. And... I'll get rid of the black fire, Marty doesn't like fire anyway. So, he'll keep Rage's strength, but tamed a bit. And get rid of blackfire. Would that work so far?

[BladeofObliviom]

EDIT: That would probably work, and generally make the guy a lot more tolerable in terms of keeping everything straight.

For my part, I apologize for jumping on you so quickly and so harshly. I definitely didn't mean to attack you, but reading over my own post I can see that some of my words were a lot more vitriolic than were necessary.

The edit didn't quite make it in time, but it still applies here.

[Hattish Thing]

The edit didn't quite make it in time, but it still applies here.

Mhm, thank you. I'm sorry for being a little overly defensive.

So, abilities kept.

*Teleportation
*Charged Magic
*Super(ish) strength
*Battle Shout (Weaker)

[Earl of Purple]

The character of mine with the greatest strength enhancement is a human cleric whose strength is enhanced in quite a limited fashion- he has an enchanted club that hits like a train. I worried it was too strong, so I always make a point of saying that the club is slower than if he swung an unenhanced club that was otherwise identical.

My next strongest character is an elderly barbarian. She is based on Genghiz Cohen from the Discworld, and uses a flail enhanced to make it lighter for the wielder. She is strong, but she doesn't wear armour and doesn't have any means of fighting off magic or technology besides a strong arm and a stronger will.

Then it's another cleric with giant ancestry and some slight superhuman giant strength. But she specialised in using a quarterstaff and recently had her right hand turned into a predatory fish, so her preferred fighting style is no longer usable.

That's not including my non-human characters, whose strength is usually average for what they are, or at least not enhanced beyond what one could reasonably expect from (for example) a dragon or giant.

[horngeek]

Keep in mind that 'knock out Superman in one punch' might not mean straight-up strengh, since Supes has a magic vulnerability.

[Hattish Thing]

Keep in mind that 'knock out Superman in one punch' might not mean straight-up strengh, since Supes has a magic vulnerability.

Almost made me choke on my dinner right here, thanks for that.

[horngeek]

You're welcome.

horngeek: Obsessive nerdery since 1991!

*goes to put Brianna back in Watchtower*

[Dark Elf Bard]

Okay.

Noodle, did Marty run away, or should I respond to your current post?

[Hattish Thing]

Okay.

Noodle, did Marty run away, or should I respond to your current post?

He ran, as fast as possible.

[Earl of Purple]

Deadtime now. Goodnight, sleep tight and don't let the Wendigo bite.

Shadowcaller, could you please post for the Hat Society Group in the Riverside Temple of Dalachrech?

[Dark Elf Bard]

He ran, as fast as possible.

Can you post that? Entities want to have a word with him.

[Hattish Thing]

Can you post that? Entities want to have a word with him.

I did post. Entities? Just because he ran from a goddess, doesn't mean he can't take some minor entities. His Calublufiok abilities are powerful enough.

[horngeek]

...how long has it been since the last Apocaplot anyway?