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Thread: Removing Ability Score Penalties
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2014-08-25, 05:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Removing Ability Score Penalties
Is there a way to remove penalties to ability scores due to a spell effect WITHOUT ending the effect of the spell? For example, Enlarge Person and Reduce Person grant a +2 to a stat but a -2 to another. Is there a way to remove the -2 without ending the spell and getting rid of that +2, as well as the size difference?
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2014-08-25, 05:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Removing Ability Score Penalties
Cat's Grace?
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2014-08-25, 05:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Removing Ability Score Penalties
Without a bonus to oppose the malus, no. Excluding certain special abilities like no longer accruing aging penalties etc.
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2014-08-25, 05:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Removing Ability Score Penalties
Really, there's no spell that was lazily worded to remove specifically a penalty rather than the effect? Like how Lesser Restoration says "dispels any magical effects reducing one of the subject's ability scores," there's nothing which is close to that but worded along the lines of "removes any ability score reduction a creature may be suffering"?
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2014-08-25, 05:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Removing Ability Score Penalties
Well, I guess you could negate it by taking two levels of Soulborn. But that only works if you're chaotic evil and the penalty is to Strength.
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2014-08-25, 06:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-25, 06:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Removing Ability Score Penalties
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2014-08-25, 07:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Removing Ability Score Penalties
It's actually one of the only reasons to take the class, really. The ability to completely ignore penalties to Strength is huge. Look at what it does for Tibbits. Yes, completely ignore the -8 penalty to Strength from turning into an ittybittykitty.
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2014-08-25, 08:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Removing Ability Score Penalties
BUFFDEMONKITTY. Jeez, I never really looked over any of that class because it was like a worse-than-Monk Monk whose gimmick, Soulmelds, comes online beyond the exit point for PrCs. But now I want to look over anything that deals with Strength decreases as a downside and evaluate it if I dip two levels of Soulborn. Minute Form comes to mind. Someone who drenches himself in Strength poison, maybe Trouserfang Dwarf style. How might that play into cases where you're sacrificing Strength for something, like in the case of Corrupt spells or Body Fuel? I expect that wouldn't work.
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I was hoping to abuse the whole Half-Giant Return to Nature combo to be Fine-sized, and didn't want to lose my Strength. I want to make the Nac Mac Feegle from Discworld, and they need to be strong enough to lift sheep and people while being very small indeed.