View Poll Results: What do you think of pigeon making artifacts?
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It's perfectly reasonable and funny!
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It's Perfectly reasonable, but pretty stupid.
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It's totally absurd, but funny none the less!
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Stupidest, and least funny idea ever!
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Thread: Artifacts that make...Pigeons?
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2006-12-07, 05:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Artifacts that make...Pigeons?
It's kind of weird, but why would a walnut turn into a pigeon. I vote that this is an absurd, yet funny thing...but why couldn't it have made other animals too?
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2006-12-07, 07:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Artifacts that make...Pigeons?
I vote that I really don't care about your poll. (Well, ok, only enough to point that out.)
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2006-12-07, 07:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Artifacts that make...Pigeons?
Using an incredibly powerful artifact of the titans to crack walnuts has got to result in some weird effect, no? After all, imagine if it didn't turn the walnut into a pigeon... What's the point of an incredibly powerful artifact if all it does to a walnut is crack it?
Of course, the inevitable question is... Why pigeons?Belkar's Bad to the Bone.
Dispossible a fetter hein and bemay kine a sinder's tock.
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2006-12-07, 07:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Artifacts that make...Pigeons?
Considering the artifact's original purpose (long before Stanley got his hands on it).... I am trying to see if I can find a connection between that and pigeons.
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2006-12-07, 08:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Artifacts that make...Pigeons?
Absurd but funny. I laughed at it, but I can't possibly imagine why an incredibly powerful artifact would make pigeons. Blow the walnuts to smithereens maybe, make them pigeons, is kind of absurd. Still really funny though.
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2006-12-07, 10:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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If you hammer at the kernel of the logic long enough, the idea will not seem as nutty as it first appears to be...
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2006-12-07, 10:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Artifacts that make...Pigeons?
magically, its reasonalble, but it is idiotic.
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2006-12-07, 11:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Artifacts that make...Pigeons?
The problem with thinking "why is an artifact making pigeons", is people are assuming that an artifact is an amazing magic item made by some super-powerful wizard for some important purpose. Which is very likely not the case in this scenario.
SpoilerFirst off, I'm guessing it wasn't originally made as a weapon. The "titans" likely made it as a toy for infants. Take a look at it, it is a child's toy. A plastic mallet, and when you hit it hard enough it probably squeeks. Or it might be a croquet mallet... either way it isn't an overly important item for the Titans.
Consider the gem that went off the Elvis's robe... it wasn't too important and wasn't noticed, but to the people of Erfworld it was a huge treasure. Same thing with the Arkenhammer.. something amusing, but not missed by the Titans.
I wouldn't be suprised if it had all sorts of fancy tricks. It might be able to make bunnies, and other creatures too... Stanley just doesn't know how to use it, and he accidently does the right thing for pigeons from time to time
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2006-12-08, 10:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Artifacts that make...Pigeons?
Has no one here any experience with magic? Pigeons are a standard result of any powerful magic artefact. Indeed students in UL have classified the base unit of magic, the thaum, as the amount of magic needed to create a white pigeon or three billiard balls.
Last edited by Om; 2006-12-08 at 01:06 PM.
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2006-12-08, 11:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Artifacts that make...Pigeons?
Obviously a tool of such magical potential is bound to have unforeseen side affects when used for such medial tasks like cracking open walnuts. The real question for me is what affect did it have on the walnuts that it simply cracked open?(aside from breaking them into pieces of course)
Still not really here. Still just an illusion.
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2006-12-08, 11:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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They turned into tiny self-contained worlds of their own!
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2006-12-08, 11:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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With any luck they won't become pigeons at a later date. You know, after being eaten.
Still not really here. Still just an illusion.
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2006-12-08, 03:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Artifacts that make...Pigeons?
It's not the pigeons that are funny, but the idea that this artifact is probably going to be doing weird, unforeseen, and completely random stuff all the time.
Google query for the Giant's posts, for those of us who think they're way more interesting than yet another speculation thread but don't have time to read every thread on the forum to find one he's posting in.
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2006-12-08, 04:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Artifacts that make...Pigeons?
That scene was actually one of my favorite parts so far.
Church: "Thanks for the support Griff, way to be a team player"
Griff: "Hey I gotta think about myself here"
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2006-12-08, 05:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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2006-12-08, 09:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Artifacts that make...Pigeons?
Turquoise bicycle shoe fins actualize radishes greenly!
*Ahem* Arrrgh! the Living Sword would approve. He's a Chaotic neutral intelligent sword with the ability to shapechange into fruit (though he retains his hardness regardless). He can't shapechange into anything else, though; just fruit. Why? Part of the nature of chaos - deal with it. It makes perfect sense by not making any sort of sense.
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2006-12-08, 11:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Artifacts that make...Pigeons?
Belkar's Bad to the Bone.
Dispossible a fetter hein and bemay kine a sinder's tock.
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2006-12-09, 07:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Artifacts that make...Pigeons?
Depends how it works really.
If this is supposed to be a weapon, then it is reasonable to believe that every 4th or 5th hit will result in the enemy changing into a pigeon and therefore be dealt with.
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2006-12-10, 06:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Artifacts that make...Pigeons?
It's totally absurd.... but that's WHY it's funny.
...but you could make stats for it in any D&D campaign... when the weapon hits, there is a 20% chance the target is "Baleful Polymorph Any Object (or somthing)"ed into a pidgeon, no save... I'm not sure why you would... but it's an artifact... people thought differently back when it was made, yes?We the Unwilling,
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2006-12-11, 12:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Artifacts that make...Pigeons?
Artifacts can do what they want, that's my opinion.
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2006-12-11, 01:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Artifacts that make...Pigeons?
For want of a better word, the artefact has been "programed" to do something when it's used to do a certain action, right? Perhaps, when used on an enemy, it turns said enemy into ashes? Ok?
So what happens when it's used on an innocent walnut? "Hmm... what should I do?" the artefact thinks to itself. "Enemies into ashes... so... Walnuts into... pigeons?" And then does just that.
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2006-12-12, 03:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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2006-12-13, 05:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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It resets to pigeons. And Stanley has no idea how to utilize it properly.
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2006-12-13, 09:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Artifacts that make...Pigeons?
I'm guessing it's just some sort of 'magic leakage' tbh. A tool of the titans is likely to be a very magical object, and even when its powers aren't being invoked, random slightly magical things are going to happen if you start hitting things with it. And as Om pointed out, producing pigeons is a fairly standard (and nicely surreal) magical effect to have happen.
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2006-12-14, 11:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Artifacts that make...Pigeons?
I can see no reason why a magic artefact could randomly turn stuff into pidgeons, by mistake.
Totally getting something nice here, when the time is right that is.
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2006-12-14, 12:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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2006-12-14, 02:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Artifacts that make...Pigeons?
It might not be random at all. I get the impression that this is an artifact that was found at some point in time, and the people of Erfworld do not really know what it is.
To put it simply, Stanley isn't using the hammer properly. He doesn't know how to use it properly, and he only knows a small fraction of the hammer's abilities.
Someone who fully understands how to use the hammer could probably make a pigeon every time, by using the hammer properly. Stanley just happens to do this by mistake around 20% of the time.
If he had any wisdom... he could probably figure it out himself with trial and error.
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2006-12-14, 06:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Artifacts that make...Pigeons?
Dieties often have favorite animals or "mascots".
Bast=Cats
Juno=Peacocks
Indri=Elephants
ect.
Perhaps the titan who created the arkenhammer had a special fondness for pigeons.
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2006-12-15, 11:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Artifacts that make...Pigeons?
If Elvis created the Arkenhammer, then the walnuts should be turning into peanut butter and banana sandwiches
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2006-12-16, 01:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Artifacts that make...Pigeons?
The hammer is obviously being misused, which appears to be something Stanley does with a lot of things (using a Croakamancer for the summoning spell, using an ancient artifact to crack nuts, promoting people based on looks). If he used the hammer properly it would probably do something spectacular.