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2014-01-23, 09:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What if we could swap sexes at will?
Well, my point was, if your nipples are an erogenous zone then the surrounding area should, as a consequence, also be susceptible to stimulation. Like, female breasts have the nerves more split up (so as to be more responsive to stimulation in a larger area) and they're also more sensitive due to hormones, but the same should work on basically all men as well, just not quite as well. I expect most men haven't had the breast aside from the nipple stimulated by a partner though, so they would be unaware of this.
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2014-01-23, 09:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-01-23, 10:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What if we could swap sexes at will?
Me, I'm more wondering whether the necessary changes to the universe would preclude genderfluid or intersexed people from existing as it's sorta Binary World as presented in the OP. Or at least as I understood it.
Out of Cheese Error, please reset universe.
I read it as changing both simultaneously from his wording myself.
It couldn't just be changing chromosomes anyway, since you also have to change labia to scrotums or vice versa, add or subtract fallopian tubes/uterii/vesicular glands/prostates, all that other messy tubing for another set of messy tubing.
Androgyne has never seemed to me to be synonymous with neuter quite to that extreme level of having no sex characteristics. Usually seems to mean a blend.
From what I'm understanding of the change, it would be, based upon the OP, that, say when a cis man changes into a woman, he's getting a cis woman's body and a cis woman's gender identity and becomes a she for all intents and purposes. So having all of those nerve endings reconfigured would seem to be part of the package. Otherwise the entire scenario fails because one wouldn't have the nerve endings to go along with the ****oris/penis or the gametes and ability to produce/store said gametes.
Hmm. Depending upon whether it's a change or if the gametes get stored in L Space, I suppose it might help eliminate the discrepancy between male and female when it comes to gamete production/storage/aging.
Edit: Though this whole "No, if you "started out" as a MAAB person, you'll never have sensitive breasts" discussion seems like it's far too dependent upon the limited means of bodily reconstruction available currently to us in real life for transitioning.
This is magical sex and gender changing, why on earth would it be limited in such a curiously specific way?
I mean, for one thing, it's not said that sex and gender changing are only introduced after puberty or after sexual maturity, so even if you're thinking that nerves are set at those points...
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So far I haven't seen anything about the change being outside of their control, so I'd presume that particular possibility would be a non-issue as the hypothetical scenario stands.
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2014-01-23, 10:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-01-23, 10:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What if we could swap sexes at will?
I know I'd become female for long enough to have kids, so I can fulfill my dream of becoming a bitter, man-hating single mother.
After that, eh, it depends. The less exaggerated the change is, the less reason there is to change forms. By which I mean: if my bone structure, height, weight and musculature are going to change closer towards the average woman each time, I'd probably stay as a male expect for those occasions where I feel like dressing in pretty clothes. If my height, weight and muscles stay largely the same between forms, I'd probably stick to male for the most time to avoid periods."It's the fate of all things under the sky,
to grow old and wither and die."
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2014-01-23, 10:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What if we could swap sexes at will?
Hey now, I wasn't suggesting a completely different sense of touch. merely different distributions of sensitivity.
(besides, I'm of the opinion that everyone probably perceives things slightly differently doesn't make them a different species )
As for sensations that men can barely fathom... hrm. Something about densities of nerve endings in some areas makes me wonder. but ahh well, that's a tangential discussion entirely
That... that sounds like a cool world. I would like this world I think.
Also, that is a point. appearing as male would probably be considered a subtle form of aggression
I dont mean to be dark and cynical but human society seems to build itself around restricting choice and freedoms quite alot. I can easily see sexism not being a thing, but sadly I think there would be some kind of exclusionary structure in its place. maybe thats just me being a pessimist
Oh come on, breasts are great! Its not just guys that think this! Although my girlfriend insists on ruining it for me by pointing out that they are impractical and hindering at times *shakes fist* so unfair forcing me to deal with reality
Mindset might well be thoroughly different. and I'd imagine if he'd spent his whole life having breasts the fascination might well have worn off.
Well I'd be quite happy being female in this magical world, or I suppose alternatively if such was attainable. no gender, being free from all the reproduction hormones and such things in day to day life sounds rather nice although I'd probably alternate with female. That said, I'd probably definitely pull the dodging periods trick that has been mentioned a few times. I have no desire to find out how bad it is.
As for erogenous zones, damned if I know. I seem to be ticklish pretty much everywhere. much to my girlfriends amusement, not so much to mine. (How am I supposed to be a tall grumpy late-teen if you make me devolve into giggling.)
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2014-01-23, 11:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-01-23, 11:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What if we could swap sexes at will?
You know, I've never really understood this. I mean they're very nice, don't get me wrong, but not exactly a brain-shut-off switch, and I've always been faintly insulted by the suggestion that they should be for me. I'm not quite that pathetic, thanks. Maybe that's just me though
On topic, at first I thought having two wardrobes would be a pain. But on the other hand, I live in the midwest, where a person already needs two wardrobes to deal with the bit where it's Siberia for three months of the year, and a greenhouse over the summer.
This suggests an obvious solution: spend summers female. Not only would that allow me to spend some time in a body with a decent set of hips instead of the disappointingly flat set I've got, but I'd look good in dresses. Spending the summer lounging around in sundresses, sunglasses and one of those floppy sunhats sounds lovely. Winters though? Yeah, I like being large and having facial hair then. Plus I don't want to replace my carefully curated selection of winter coats.Blood-red were his spurs i' the golden noon; wine-red was his velvet coat,
When they shot him down on the highway,
Down like a dog on the highway,And he lay in his blood on the highway, with the bunch of lace at his throat.
Alfred Noyes, The Highwayman, 1906.
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2014-01-23, 12:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What if we could swap sexes at will?
Breasts are nice, breasts do not switch your brain off. I suspect that socratov was being tongue in cheek though do feel free to correct me.
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2014-01-23, 12:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What if we could swap sexes at will?
Yeah. I figure society would be a bunch of lesbian werewolves* because the smaller, social form of the creature requires fewer calories to sustain and can apparently maintain fitness through extended running with kilogram-weights.
It seems that gender identity is an emergent property of brain chemistry, not of socialization. The symptoms of "male" or "female" can be socially conditioned, but the existence of "male" or "female" are not.
Basically. That's my point; if they are not already fun spots, they won't be fun just because. You may still enjoy having breasts in your hands, but then, a guy can get that through obesity too, which is basically what would be happening here.
But yes. My end reversal was "or maybe guys just don't try hard enough" etc.
I believe a large part of that is cultural too; western culture seems to focus on womens' cleavage in particular quite a bit, to the exclusion of other areas considered erotic in many other cultures (the neck in Japan, for instance).
Oh. Nevermind.
Well, yeah. "What if guys could become hot chicks?" Was sort of the premise, wasn't it?
If presented that way, maybe. It's possible that the necessary internal tensions for gender fluid to arise as a concept wouldn't happen for the same reason gender fluid women tend to be dismissed as normal women who sometimes dress with less frills?
Alternately, gender fluidity would be the norm as you say, and us weird static gender folks would be weird.
Androgyne has never seemed to me to be synonymous with neuter quite to that extreme level of having no sex characteristics. Usually seems to mean a blend.
From what I'm understanding of the change, it would be, based upon the OP, that, say when a cis man changes into a woman, he's getting a cis woman's body and a cis woman's gender identity and becomes a she for all intents and purposes. So having all of those nerve endings reconfigured would seem to be part of the package. Otherwise the entire scenario fails because one wouldn't have the nerve endings to go along with the ****oris/penis or the gametes and ability to produce/store said gametes.
Edit: Though this whole "No, if you "started out" as a MAAB person, you'll never have sensitive breasts" discussion seems like it's far too dependent upon the limited means of bodily reconstruction available currently to us in real life for transitioning.
This is magical sex and gender changing, why on earth would it be limited in such a curiously specific way?
The right one is bigger, but the left has a less pleasing shape despite being more perky.
I don't think it's true for anyone, really. I just think modern media has overplayed the value such that it's considered objective rather then subjective.
I'm quickly running out of ways to allude to what I meant without an infraction :s
Word.
On topic, at first I thought having two wardrobes would be a pain. But on the other hand, I live in the midwest, where a person already needs two wardrobes to deal with the bit where it's Siberia for three months of the year, and a greenhouse over the summer.
This suggests an obvious solution: spend summers female. Not only would that allow me to spend some time in a body with a decent set of hips instead of the disappointingly flat set I've got, but I'd look good in dresses. Spending the summer lounging around in sundresses, sunglasses and one of those floppy sunhats sounds lovely. Winters though? Yeah, I like being large and having facial hair then. Plus I don't want to replace my carefully curated selection of winter coats.
Man. Could you imagine? You square off with the Sheila across the bar, trading angry looks over comments about [SPORTS TEAM] or something, and then she slams a shot and stalks over to you, packing on a few kilos, a foot of width, and a neck beard flaring like a lizard's frills asherhis anger mounts?
It's like a werewolf game. It's bloody hilarious!
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2014-01-23, 12:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What if we could swap sexes at will?
Surely not no reason. Breasts are erogenous in many women (70% according to this completely unscientific study).
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2014-01-23, 12:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What if we could swap sexes at will?
So, just to be clear here, dried grapes increase nipple sensitivity?
The right one is bigger, but the left has a less pleasing shape despite being more perky.
Word.
Yeah. I love sundresses~
Man. Could you imagine? You square off with the Sheila across the bar, trading angry looks over comments about [SPORTS TEAM] or something, and then she slams a shot and stalks over to you, packing on a few kilos, a foot of width, and a neck beard flaring like a lizard's frills asherhis anger mounts?
It's like a werewolf game. It's bloody hilarious!Blood-red were his spurs i' the golden noon; wine-red was his velvet coat,
When they shot him down on the highway,
Down like a dog on the highway,And he lay in his blood on the highway, with the bunch of lace at his throat.
Alfred Noyes, The Highwayman, 1906.
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2014-01-23, 12:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What if we could swap sexes at will?
Would this be like a Ranma 1/2 style change? Poof - I'm suddenly 6 inches shorter and 70 pounds lighter? I can see that being useful when I'm trying to be stealthy. I can't imagine my wife would be much of a fan though.
Or would we be limited by conservation of mass? If so, I'd just morph into a 6'-4", 220 pound lady with slightly redistributed body fat and a bad haircut (business cut ≠ pixie cut). I can't see many advantages to that. Aside from the requisite 'trying out' experience of jumping on trampolines, I'd probably keep myself locked in as my socially more advantageous 'tall white male' body type.
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2014-01-23, 12:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What if we could swap sexes at will?
Breasts are a bit of a toss up for me if it's Narbonic rather than Ranma 1/2. Some of my female family is pretty flat, though not all, so, who knows. I'd be pretty curvy as a woman, with a generous tush, I am fairly certain at least, given that my body is already pretty pair shaped for a genetic male. I'd be short in all likelihood, given I am short for a male.
Anyhow, I'd give a lot to find out.
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2014-01-23, 12:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What if we could swap sexes at will?
You're making an incomplete statement that gives an artificial sense in vacuum. Yes, nipples can be erogenous. That's not a Female thing at all. It's a nipple thing. Because women are told they are supposed to like it and men are discouraged from even recognizing that they have nipples, however, you get a large bias in Assumption.
The moral is not that women don't like it so much as; try it now as a male, you'll get a pretty solid indicator of whether you'd like it, but don't expect magic change of something not actually sexually dimorphic.
By degrees! The juice sucked out of a grape, leaving it dry, can be fermented and used to increase erogenous zones and reduce inhibition
This would really complicate some things though. I mean it's perfectly acceptable for dudes to hit each other as a sign of affection, which generally isn't how it's interpreted across gender lines. You'd need an entirely different set of responses for each person based on how they were appearing today.
werewolves.
I'm assuming "exact same history as if you were biologically the other sex", sort of like there are two bodies with nigh-identical genetics (same parents and history, etc.) but one mind, that switches between them.
So if you're healthy, athletic, and a mixed martial artist your chick body would be a healthy athletic mixed martial artist chick body, but could still have potentially massive discrepancies because of your family traits.
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2014-01-23, 12:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What if we could swap sexes at will?
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2014-01-23, 03:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What if we could swap sexes at will?
Warlock Poetry?
Or ways to use me in game?
Better grab a drink...
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2014-01-23, 03:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-01-23, 03:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What if we could swap sexes at will?
I wonder how this would work with straight couples, assuming people still adhered to a more rigid binary and didn't really swap their sex a whole lot. Girlfriend turns in to a man for a few days. Boyfriend can't stand dating girlfriend while they are a man, because they don't like men. ?????
Also, how would birth certificates work, would sex at birth, which I assume would still be the primary sex, even be notified? If you were swapped, would you revert to your SAB when you die?
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2014-01-23, 03:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What if we could swap sexes at will?
Sounds like a golden opportunity to learn some new skills.
The real benefit of being able to switch though is that a substantial fraction of people would have sexual experience with both sets of equipment, which means they have personal knowledge of what works. Sex just got so much better for everybody.
Also, how would birth certificates work, would sex at birth, which I assume would still be the primary sex, even be notified? If you were swapped, would you revert to your SAB when you die?Blood-red were his spurs i' the golden noon; wine-red was his velvet coat,
When they shot him down on the highway,
Down like a dog on the highway,And he lay in his blood on the highway, with the bunch of lace at his throat.
Alfred Noyes, The Highwayman, 1906.
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2014-01-23, 04:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What if we could swap sexes at will?
This assumes people would even want to bother with messing around with a swapped SO. And a fair portion of people probably would, but a fair portion still probably wouldn't either. *shrug* I know were I able to turn in to a woman and have sex, I'd almost definitely do it as a lesbian, and not seek out a man.
I'd figure you'd settle on a 'primary' sex later in life, assuming a person really even bothered to do that.
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2014-01-23, 04:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What if we could swap sexes at will?
I dunno, I see a lot of "It works for me, you're just weird". I mean, lesbians and gay men have bad sex, too..
I'd figure you'd settle on a 'primary' sex later in life, assuming a person really even bothered to do that.
Likely a simple sabbatical. I don't see how it would be much different from not wanting to be with her during her period - EVERYONE can do this, so no one is going to be making ay assumptions about this guy and the "guy" who is usually his girlfriend.
Also, how would birth certificates work, would sex at birth, which I assume would still be the primary sex, even be notified? If you were swapped, would you revert to your SAB when you die?
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2014-01-23, 04:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What if we could swap sexes at will?
I feel like I may very well be misinterpreting your post but ... A male may not want to have sex his female SO while she in on her period, but they're still probably going to go on dates and kiss. If the female SO goes male to avoid her period, the male is presumably not going to want to do even those. Given the primary male is rigidly straight.
A sabbatical probably makes the most sense.
I would normally say it wouldn't be relevant, but then I thought about it. Likely, you wouldn't be able to fully switch until after puberty. You'd be born one sex and likely come to identify with it, huh?
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2014-01-23, 04:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What if we could swap sexes at will?
I'd figure a substantial number of people would come around to falling in love/having sex with people they were attracted to, rather than specific genders.
]I suppose so, but most people are pretty happy with their birth sex. Given the ability randomly showed up in today's society, I can't see many people swapping other than to try sex once or twice and to avoid menstruation.
This is true. Last I looked at any attempt to quantify such things however, it suggested homosexual people generally had better sex than straight people.
Probably cultural. A neat coming of age ceremony, though don/t you think?
I would normally say it wouldn't be relevant, but then I thought about it. Likely, you wouldn't be able to fully switch until after puberty. You'd be born one sex and likely come to identify with it, huh?Blood-red were his spurs i' the golden noon; wine-red was his velvet coat,
When they shot him down on the highway,
Down like a dog on the highway,And he lay in his blood on the highway, with the bunch of lace at his throat.
Alfred Noyes, The Highwayman, 1906.
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2014-01-23, 04:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-01-23, 04:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What if we could swap sexes at will?
I'd probably just be whichever was most advantageous to me at the time. I suppose I'd end up auditioning as a male fairly often, since I frequently find myself feeling annoyed that the roles I'd most want are the male roles, and that'd give me a better chance at them.
Other than that, it would depend a bit on how much changed. I would rather be taller, so if being male would make me as tall as the men in my family, I might go for it most of the time (6'1" or so instead of 5'2"? I'd take that). I hate having to do anything more with my appearance than possibly run a brush through my hair in the morning, though, and also would not want facial hair, so that might be too annoying to keep up. Plus, then I would have to purchase new clothing and boots, and I hate doing that. Still, an extra foot of height for somebody who's always been annoyed at being short is not inconsiderable.
Eh. Whatever offers me an advantage at the time is how I think it would go down. I'm asexual and don't really give much of a damn about my gender, so considerations of gender or romance really wouldn't enter into it. I'm content being female, and I expect I'd be equally content being male.
I've no idea how society or people in general would change if that were to happen.
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2014-01-23, 05:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What if we could swap sexes at will?
Why does that strike you as likely?
Why?
You've never heard of all that jazz about homosexuals being better at giving oral sex? I mean, sure, one could question the factual basis of it without some actual figures to back it up...
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2014-01-23, 06:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What if we could swap sexes at will?
That's probably how it'd be for me. Still typically a guy, but I'd use this hypothetical power to make summer more bearable. (And perhaps to avoid monkey suits occasionally)
The real deciding question in how society would be affected: How does the transformation work? Same body, different parts? Hypothetical what-if version of you? Could you modify one body (say by dyeing your hair) and not have it affect the other?Avatar by Venetian Mask. It's of an NPC from a campaign I may yet run (possibly in PbP) who became a favorite of mine while planning.
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2014-01-23, 09:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What if we could swap sexes at will?
If we could change sexes at will then I doubt there would be a separation between male and female clothing 38/
huh. I think breasts are pretty disgusting... tho not sure im a heterosexual male so
Depends on the society I guess...
That would be nice 38|
whos to say it aint both
YES 38Dwhite text is the bestest you might want to look for it
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2014-01-23, 09:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What if we could swap sexes at will?
All I can say is that my hair had better carry over. I'd have awesome hair for a woman.
I rather doubt that. I'm simply built differently than most women, as are most men. We just tend to be narrower in the hips and wider in the shoulders. What's comfortable and looks good on me is very different than what's comfortable and looks good on most women. My Mom for instance remembers when blue jeans for women were cut exactly like they were for men, and she hated them.
huh. I think breasts are pretty disgusting... tho not sure im a heterosexual male so
That would be nice 38|
Now names though, that would be seriously complicated.Blood-red were his spurs i' the golden noon; wine-red was his velvet coat,
When they shot him down on the highway,
Down like a dog on the highway,And he lay in his blood on the highway, with the bunch of lace at his throat.
Alfred Noyes, The Highwayman, 1906.