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2014-04-01, 02:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
Note: the 'Captain' part of Captain Shynauf Whitehair is very important to remember.
Originally Posted by Captain Shynauf
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2014-04-01, 02:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
How can you know thine enemy if he doesn't know himself?
Originally Posted by Ainatarmannave Miinuume
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2014-04-01, 02:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
...Yes, but where has the rum gone?
Originally Posted by Captain Jackie Spae Row
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2014-04-01, 02:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Apr 2011
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
Take my love,
Take my land,
Take me where I cannot stand.
I don't care,
I'm still free
You can't take the sky from me.Originally Posted by Momeo Rontague
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2014-04-01, 02:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Apr 2011
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
Do mine eyes deceive me?
Originally Posted by Charolette
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2014-04-01, 02:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Apr 2011
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
...and that's all for this incarnation of ICOC, guys.
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2014-04-01, 02:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Feb 2014
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
Wow! Awesome lineup just from a cursory glance!
Time to check build legality and move into preliminary judging phases.
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2014-04-01, 02:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Sep 2012
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- Necro-equestrian Pugilism
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
There is some great stuff here, but I've spotted a few mistakes (I think one entry uses disallowed material), and a couple of people who included stuff that does the job of a Mountebank better than the Mountebank. Still, I'm curious to see what our judges think.
I had two other builds in consideration. The first was a joke build using the Gazebo Jones trick: A warforged con-man and thief who sold high-end furniture to wealthy clients. His alter egos matched the furniture sets he sold in every detail (because he could choose animated objects as Alter Self forms), so a wealthy customer would buy his "furniture", put it in their house, and he'd case the joint before robbing them blind and teleporting out of their home. I would have figured some way to work an Ikea pun into his name. I assure you it would have been top drawer.
The other was a Neraphim spy working for both sides in the Blood War. I thought I was on to something with including Invisible Blade until I found out that the "free" feint was errata'd to be only 1/round. Also, I just couldn't seem to get things working right with that build overall. I had a blast writing up the one I submitted.
I also had it in my head to try and do a build with a Magical Beast as the base chassis, in order to be able to pick a 5-headed Hydra as one of the Alter Egos, but that never really went anywhere.Last edited by Deadline; 2014-04-01 at 02:54 PM.
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2014-04-01, 02:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Feb 2014
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
No way! The Gazebo Jones Mk. II was EXACTLY what I was talking about earlier!
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2014-04-01, 03:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Dec 2012
Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
I'm honestly surprised we didn't get a construct or outsider build, and more surprised we only have 3 non-humanoids. I was half expecting a volodni, just for the heck of it.
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2014-04-01, 03:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Apr 2011
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
And I was disappointed in you both for failing to deliver.
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2014-04-01, 03:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jul 2007
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- Bellona
Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
Between vacation and board changes, I didn't have time to get my entry together, but the idea was a synad incarnate 5/necrocarnate 5/mountebank 10. The fluff was going to be that his overmind snapped, and he no longer knew that his threefold mind was all part of a greater whole, but instead thought each mind was a totally separate entity. Some relevant tricks included using Psycarnum Infusion to make up for the necrocarnate's essentia lack, and having a grell alter ego alongside shadow mantle and Maiming Strike.
Here's the build stub, if anyone is interested:
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Synad, Incarnate 5/Mountebank 10/Necrocarnate 5
1. Incarnate1- Apprentice (Criminal)
2. Incarnate2-
3. Incarnate3- Deceitful
4. Incarnate4-
5. Incarnate5-
6. Mountebank1- Psycarnum Infusion
7. Mountebank2-
8. Mountebank3-
9. Mountebank4- Necrocarnum Acolyte
10. Necrocarnate1-
11. Necrocarnate2-
12. Necrocarnate3- Shape Soulmeld (Shadow Mantle)
13. Mountebank5-
14. Mountebank6-
15. Mountebank7- Maiming Strike
16. Mountebank8-
17. Mountebank9-
18. Mountebank10- Craven
19. Necrocarnate4-
20. Necrocarnate5-
Str 14/Dex 10/Con 14/Int 16/Wis 10/Cha 14
I may toss in my hat as a judge, depending on how the next week goes.Optimization Showcase in the Playground
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IC LXXV: Alphonse Louise Constant
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IC XLV: Dead Mists
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IC XXXIX: AM-1468
IC XXXV: Parsifal the Fool
IC XXX: Jal Filius
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2014-04-01, 03:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Dec 2006
Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
My first (unworkable) idea involved merging Mountebank with Cognition Thief.
My second idea - nixed by the long forum update process and my schedule on Tuesdays - was pairing Mountebank with Psibond Agent.
I doubt I'll have a chance to do more than cursory glances at the builds before Sunday, folks.
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2014-04-01, 03:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Mar 2013
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- the periodic table
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
Blame it on the break maybe?
My second idea was going to be a harpy (monstrous humanoid) Mountebank 10. Her first alter ego was going to be a doppelganger (also a monstrous humanoid) and one of her feats was going to be Assume Supernatural Ability (change shape). So congratulations you just gained the ability to literally become anyone humanoid or monstrous humanoid.
It was either going to be great or bomb terribly--I was shooting for Honorable Mention.
I'm glad I worked on the one I submitted though.Chairman emeritus for Zinc Saucier.
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2014-04-01, 03:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jan 2013
Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
I almost had an entry this time. Swashbuckler 5 / mountebank 10 / zhentarim spy 5.
Using the mountebank alternative forms as base for the disguises and the subsequent bonus to bluff to trigger the find secret ability of the swashbuckler and wanderer diplomacy. I think it did a good job at bluffing via int and taking advantage of disguises which are the most unique things of the mountebank.
But I didn't have time to finish.Thanks a lot Gengy for the awesome... just a sec... avatar. :)
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2014-04-01, 03:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Feb 2010
Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
I wasn't able to get an entry in this round. Started school...
Anyway, my entry was going to be a QuasiLycanthrope Dvanti Totemist2/Hexblade4/Montebank8/Warshaper4/LA+2. Using the shapechanger subtype to qualify and te alterego to let my character be into two places at once to mess with people's mind. Something along the lines of "I'm not saying I'm Batman. I'm saying that no one has ever seen me and Batman in the same room at the same time." And then Batman shows up.
Haha. Good times.
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2014-04-01, 03:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jan 2012
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- Secret Lair on Sol c
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
considered posting a joke build that could do everything the Mountebank can better, by utilizing Spymaster for the vast majority and either Shadowdancer or some Swordsage for the Sidestep's ... and prehaps some Dragon Compendium Mountebank base class to set up a (weak) defense against those saying that i didn't have any Mountebank levels
Last edited by Sian; 2014-04-01 at 03:55 PM.
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2014-04-01, 04:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Apr 2013
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
The joke build I was looking to submit was a drow rogue/ paladin of slaughter/ mountebank/ slime lord who was just oozing insanity.
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2014-04-01, 05:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jun 2012
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- Richland, WA
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
Okay, here's the cheat sheet with 12 builds together.
- The Inscrutable Master Gau - CN Brood Monkey Rogue 3/Mountebank 10/Swordsage 3
- Li Chan - CG, Vanara, Spellthief 5/Mountebank 10/Swordsage 1/Warblade 4
- Eelis - CG Elan Paladin of Freedom 3/Ranger 1/Slayer 6/Mountebank 10
- Unnamed - Human Rogue2/Fighter2/Swordsage1/Chameleon7/Mountebank8
- Demos - Silverbrow Human, TN****, Binder 4, Cleric 1, Chameleon 6, Mountebank 9
- The Outcast - N Lupin Factotum 3/Swordsage 2/SI 10/Twisted Lord 5
- Littlefingers - CG Gnome Beguiler 6/Agent of the Crown 5/Mountebank 9
- Captain Shynauf - Male Lesser Drow Swashbuckler 3 / Fighter 2 / Scarlet Corsair 5 / Mountebank 10
- Ainatarmannave Miinuume - N gray elf Factotum 5/Mountebank 10/Avenger 5
- Captain Jackie Spae Row - CN Human Rogue 8/ Swashbuckler 3/ Mountebank 6/ Uncanny Trickster 3
- Momeo Rontague - Savant 2/Human Paragon 3/Mountebank 8/Uncanny Trickster 3/Exemplar 4
- Charolette, the Charlatan - CN, Human (scorpion), Spell Thief 5, Mountebank 10, Bayushi Deceiver 5
- Spellthief 2 - 16.67%
- Chameleon 2 - 16.67%
- Fighter 2 - 16.67%
- Factotum 2 - 16.67%
- Swashbuckler 2 - 16.67%
- Uncanny Trickster 2 - 16.67%
- Rogues 3 - 25%
- Swordsage 4 - 33.33%
I am what lurks under your bridge, I am the troll...
Not sure about what I said, go back highlight it with your mouse and wham it's magically blue for sarcasm, so like everything on the internet take it with a grain of salt.
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2014-04-01, 06:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Apr 2013
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
Interesting. normally there's more similarity between at least a few entries.
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2014-04-01, 07:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Feb 2014
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
Yeah, originality is looking like a fairly high stat for me this time around due to "originality by sample trend".
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2014-04-01, 09:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Sep 2012
Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
Maybe I should have fleshed out my Binder4/SS1/Mountebank10/Teleflamer4/SS+1 idea. I thought Teleflamer was going to destroy my originality.
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2014-04-01, 11:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jul 2011
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- Michigan
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
I was sorta surprised not to see any shadow pouncers too, but looking at Mountebank again, I don't think Sudden Escape counts as Dim Door for the purpose of qualifying for Shadowlord.
I've been having trouble with the playground on my apartment's Internet (posting from phone now) but I'll see if I can get it to work and maybe find time to judge sometime next week.
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Nick Snarespan - Gold - IC LIII
Lucy "Legs" Silvertail - Bronze - IC LXVIII
Bolfarg of Knoss - Gold - IC LXXVII
Ivarr Deathborn - Bronze - IC LXXVII
Ahmtel - Silver - IC LXXVIII
Tocke of Nessus - Gold - IC LXXIX
The Blessed Third - Silver - IC LXXXI
Galahad Galapagos - Gold - IC LXXXIV
Sai-don, Knight of the Tide - Bronze - IC LXXXIV
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2014-04-01, 11:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jun 2012
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- Richland, WA
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
I am glad I am not judging... going through my review, I have a good baseline where I would put people, and it is way closer than I would have thought.
It looks to be a fun round.
Good job everyone!I am what lurks under your bridge, I am the troll...
Not sure about what I said, go back highlight it with your mouse and wham it's magically blue for sarcasm, so like everything on the internet take it with a grain of salt.
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2014-04-01, 11:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Apr 2013
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
Yeah it looks like everyone has really good builds this go round, course this is coming from the guy who bombs the optimization aspect of the competition every go round
Though Tim I have to admit I'm surprised you didn't drop any levels of Slime Lord into your build. With how much you seem to beg to use it, you missed the perfect opportunity!
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2014-04-01, 11:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jun 2012
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- Richland, WA
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
I am what lurks under your bridge, I am the troll...
Not sure about what I said, go back highlight it with your mouse and wham it's magically blue for sarcasm, so like everything on the internet take it with a grain of salt.
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2014-04-02, 02:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Nov 2012
Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
My idea was a River Styx Ferryman, who earned his keep by guiding people along the river. Anyone who would become too boisterous and annoying he would capsize and tip them into the River for saveless Feeblemind.
He was going to be a Loredrake Steel Dragon; Steel dragons have Alternate Form for humans and animals based on Polymorph up to their CL, as well as the relevant class skills once Loredrake was includded (spellcraft). The Steel Dragons Alter Self typically became a Dark Stalker from the Fiend Folio (3HD humanoid with +3d6 Sneak Attack, which combined with Assassins Stance gave me 8d6 Sneak Attack, 9d6 if Uncanny Trickster Advanced it.
Alter self into a Shadow Dragon for hiding etc, or Styx Dragon for the "ferrymans" trick. He had the skills to back up his typical roles, with profession sailor maxed, but also several other professions and knowledges taken so that he has something to back up his appearance (ie farmer, miner, lawyer etc)
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2014-04-02, 03:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Oct 2007
Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
Spellthief 2 - 16.67%
Chameleon 2 - 16.67%
Fighter 2 - 16.67%
Factotum 2 - 16.67%
Swashbuckler 2 - 16.67%
Uncanny Trickster 2 - 16.67%
Rogues 3 - 25%
Swordsage 4 - 33.33%Last edited by Ikeren; 2014-04-02 at 03:19 AM.
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2014-04-02, 03:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Jul 2007
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- Terra Australis
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
I'm a little surprised there was no Mountebank (Dragon Compendium) 10/Mountebank 10, just for giggles.
My winning competition entries: Kinvig Arrumskor | The Great Pumpkinhead | Wynfrith d'Acker
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2014-04-02, 04:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Jan 2012
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- Secret Lair on Sol c
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LV
would have been to obvious given that it was tossed around as a joke idea even before Kuul announced that Mountebank was indeed the dish for this round