The Pub: Off-topic chat for forum gamers

[Askthepizzaguy]

Alright, Saposhiente it is.

I only hope I actually end up on the same team as Sapo. That is my one true wish.

[Lex-Kat]

That would be an awesome combo.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I think if we've played together before, we're not allowed to be entered into the first round of games in the same game.

So, we'd both have to advance in order to be in the same game. I specifically opted out of game 1 anyway, too busy this week.

Speaking of which, Saposhiente is in the first game, so we'll link the game here, chat about it here, and root for Sapo to win, regardless of what team.

[Fleeing Coward]

Good luck Saposhiente. Just remember we'll be watching and you're disowned if you don't come out with a win

[BourgeoisJerry]

I suppose it would probably be against the rules for Sapo to tell us what his role is so we know which team to root for (in an invitation-only QT where folks from other forums can't see us, of course.)

[Saposhiente]

Thanks for all the support guys. I'll do you proud.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I suppose it would probably be against the rules for Sapo to tell us what his role is so we know which team to root for (in an invitation-only QT where folks from other forums can't see us, of course.)

Yeah I wouldn't do that. It is usually against the rules to talk about the game, as a player, to people who aren't in the game.

[Saposhiente]

You can ask the mod for spoilers, but I suspect they won't give them.


I find it interesting how I've barely read anything from them and am already coming to conclusions on their preferences. It's the werewolf instinct. Gotta understand people's motivations and perspectives.

[Duck999]

Good luck Saposhiente. Just remember we'll be watching and you're disowned if you don't come out with a win

I will try to be watching you too! If the activity level is anything like last time though, I will have no way of keeping up.

[Legato Endless]

Speaking of which, Saposhiente is in the first game, so we'll link the game here, chat about it here, and root for Sapo to win, regardless of what team.

We might want to consider doing a quick topic of it. Last time open access speculation was forbidden, and I'm assuming we're going to want to speculate on things as we watch.

I will try to be watching you too! If the activity level is anything like last time though, I will have no way of keeping up.

You probably won't have to read every post as an observer. You can get a good sense of what's happening by skipping through some of the filler. There also tends to be more repetitive chatter in this format.

IF, Reaverb and I were able to basically solve the (last championship) game in decent time and IF only read something like half the posts.

[Internet Flea]

IF, Reaverb and I were able to basically solve the (last championship) game in decent time and IF only read something like half the posts.

I read way less than that. The thing about the high activity style is it's basically turning the game into a live game all about looking for flinches in the moment, and you're relatively safe ignoring large portions of it like you would in a live game. (Well, like I would in a live game anyway.)

[Cyber Punk]

Soooo after hosting 2 Ready Aim Fire games (and a third one waiting to be approved), I've realized (again) that I like those kind of games. Doing the narration is always fun as well.

That being said, what are other games on this forum that are of that nature (that I can [co]narrate or take part in)?

[Cuthalion]

If you're familiar with Lord of the Rings, I wouldn't mind a co-narrator.

[Cyber Punk]

Aww... my only knowledge of it is by playing Shadow Of Mordor.

I got the books afterwards. Now I have another excuse to speed-read through them!

[RuneboundShade]

A lots happened since I've been around, someone fill me in on everything post Pizzaguy seeing Murska's play in the game of champs 1 and jumping over to this forum. (And bringing friends)

I feel like I should know legato but nothing is coming to mind at all. Doesn't appear to be someone from pizzaguy's forum either so I have no real excuse. I needs info.

[Lex-Kat]

Wow, you've been gone a looooong time.

Let's see..... PizzaGuy appeared. People began analyzing everything day 1 . More players from other forums began arriving. . The Pub was created.
Things have been slow. We've gone from having games starting every other week to games starting about once a month, and 20 player games are requested to be scheduled. Hmmm, I'm not very good at this.

EDIT: Oh, and there seems to be a total lack of players to join games unless you PM or e-mail them. And there is a QuickTopic called "The Road to the Mafia Multiverse". It's a connection between different forums to request players for upcoming games, because evidently, GitP isn't the only place suffering a Mafia/Werewolf drought.

[Internet Flea]

I feel like I should know legato but nothing is coming to mind at all. Doesn't appear to be someone from pizzaguy's forum either so I have no real excuse. I needs info.

He's pretty new, and he impressed people enough in his first game that the wolves have killed him early in most of the following ones.

[Duck999]

Also, Legato has hacked my brain. I didn't really realize how new Legato was until you said that. He is just too good.

Also, a wild game has appeared.
I keep forgetting to post stuff here, and only check central.

[Cyber Punk]

Speaking of wild games appearing...

New Ready Aim Fire, everyone! This RAF is based on Kung-fu.

[Saposhiente]

I think it's better to post game announcements in Central, rather than have The Pub just become the new Central.

[Askthepizzaguy]

When it comes to advertising one's game, one can hardly ever have too many announcements posted.

[Duck999]

I think it's better to post game announcements in Central, rather than have The Pub just become the new Central.

As I just said somewhere else, the central is more official. Game scheduling can happen there, and it should be announced when games start. However, not everybody checks central, and the pub is for everything structured games related.

[Thingyman]

Game 1 of the second season of the Mafia Championship has started: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59...e-1-a-1523482/

Zack is playing

If you'd like to spectate the game, feel free to add me on Skype and I'll invite you to the spectator chat: thingyman

The chat attracted more than a 100 people last time from all the various communities and was a ton of fun. Most importantly, it is a great opportunity for networking and creating connections with other communities as evidenced by the fact that it led to a bunch of crossover games the first time around. You should pop in and say hello :)

LINE-UP
Bubbles (NinSheetMusic)
CPHoya (Super Mafia All Stars)
fontisian (Dark Lord Potter)
Guild (Talking Time)
Harb (Play Diplomacy)
itisally (The Grey Labyrinth)
NeilOnnsu (Art of Problem Solving)
Paperblade (Serenes Forest)
TheDarkestLight (SC2 Mafia)
Timewave (Atheist Foundation of Australia)
VikeStep (Feed the Beast)
Vytron (xkcd)
Zack (CivFanatics)

[Duck999]

What are thoughts on having a seer and/or fool in my all power role game? I know seer can be absurd if there is no fool, but fool can also be a bad role to have when everyone has a useful ability. Thoughts?

[Aventine]

I'm hardly an expert at balance. But if you don't want to have a fool, you could use a "weaker" form of seer. If everyone has a power, then a watcher-type gives some very useful information, but its not usually a simple, definitive "this guy is a wolf." Also giving the wolves ways to mess with seers would be good. Alpha, disguiser, etc.

[Logic]

What are thoughts on having a seer and/or fool in my all power role game? I know seer can be absurd if there is no fool, but fool can also be a bad role to have when everyone has a useful ability. Thoughts?

Make your seer always fail on certain types, and the fool always succeed on certain types. For example, the fool always gets a correct scry on the Alpha, the seer gets it wrong (as per the Alpha's ability)

Perhaps the baner is also on the mixed up list?

[Internet Flea]

What are thoughts on having a seer and/or fool in my all power role game? I know seer can be absurd if there is no fool, but fool can also be a bad role to have when everyone has a useful ability. Thoughts?

Usually in an all power-role game the wolves have a disguiser who makes people scry as other things, and often an Alpha who scries as a villager automatically. You could also have a Voider that also blocks scries on people they're voiding. Or you could make the Seer a lot less powerful and only have them scry for Mason/Not Mason or something. Or give everyone powers that cause interference with the Seer scry that those players need to use to fulfill personal win conditions.

And like Logic said, if the problem is that you don't think the Fool is a fun enough role to play, make the Fool scry pierce disguises, or make it so it always gets a correct scry when it hits interference, or something like that.

[Ramsus]

Basically what IF just said is use Ramsus' scry interference rules.

And that'd be the right call as that's exactly the kind of game setup I designed them for.

Edit: Not that I'm actually taking credit for the individual ideas. Just putting them together and slapping my name on it and using it in the games I run.

[Duck999]

The only problem I find with that is that there are three ways to play it.
They don't know they pierce certain disguises, and they think they are just a useless fool.
They know they pierce certain things, but don't know which, making them unsure of when they are right.
They know what they pierce, giving away a hidden role (roles aren't listed).

[Ramsus]

The second option would usually be the best choice.