Civ 5: GMR 8 - A Beyond Earth Prequel (G&K, BNW)

[Dada]

So, after reading through most (if not all) of the GMR threads, I've decided that I want a piece of the large, delicious multiplayer cake.

#Players: 6-8
#Game Speed: Quick
#DLC: G&K, BNW mandatory, the remaining ones are up for discussion
#Turn timer: Lenient, but how lenient is up for discussion (24-72 hours, can be disabled or extended for vacations etc.)

I don't have any strong preferences with regards to map size, type or civ choices. I do have all DLC myself.

Spoiler: Gentlemanly Diplomacy Guidelines

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1) Any agreements that take effect immediately are generally handled by the game engine and can't be reneged upon, but it's not uncommon for people to work out trade deals ahead of their turns. Thus, if two players agree on a trade, then when it comes up in the game it must be proposed and agreed as written in order to avoid wasting time.

2) Any agreements that have a delayed effect (I give you something now, you give me something in return later) must be honoured if the initial price is delivered. Whether its buying votes, negotiating treaties or whatever.

3) Any agreements that are theoretical/conditional/only apply in hypotheticals are worth the paper they are printed on. That is, nothing. If the agreement is not written on the forum, it is not binding.

tl;dr: Don't do jerk moves OOC.

Who's with me?

Players (in turn order):
- Dada, playing India
- Illven, playing England
- Maryring, playing Russia
- Magentawolf, playing The Zulu
- Gpuzzle, playing The Celts
- Silverraptor, playing Brazil
- Datsmore, playing Assyria
- Techwarrior, playing Poland

Spoiler: Invite links

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Spoiler: Invite 1

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http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Joi...e-3ff7be8dca33

Spoiler: Invite 2

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http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Joi...8-a22fa86dfe06

Spoiler: Invite 3

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http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Joi...5-2d9fb5775dfe

Spoiler: Invite 4

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http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Joi...7-951af0c23250

Spoiler: Invite 5

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http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Joi...8-0e96a5217ab1

Spoiler: Invite 6

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http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Joi...9-9d8f971b1f53

Spoiler: Invite 7

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http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Joi...8-f020dc8589a1

Spoiler: Invite 8

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http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game/Joi...7-ce73b7c8573b

[Neon Knight]

I'm certainly game! I don't really have any suggestions for map or civ selection, and I don't have enough experience to suggest a turn timer limit either in good faith. On the DLC front, I have all of them, so no worries there.

[GPuzzle]

I'm in! Just have BNW and G&K, though, but that shouldn't be too bad.

[Dada]

Feel free to use one of the invite links from the first post to join the game, GPuzzle.

I too own all DLC, but I only insist on using BNW and G&K. With regards to time limit, 24 hours would be a lower bound for me, and 48 or possibly even 72 would be my initial suggestion. The most important part is actually allowing the turn timer to be disabled due to vacations etc, as long as they are reported ahead of time. Losing turns to the AI would really suck, I imagine.

I have updated the first post to reflect this, and have added some gentlemanly rules for diplomacy which seems to be becoming the standard for Civ games here. I will of course also be available to help introduce new players to the Giant Multiplayer Robot, if needed.

[Maryring]

This seems fun. I love playing Civ V, yet despise how the AI never keeps their promises, always plop their cities right in the middle of my roads and generally makes a terrible nuisance of itself before declaring a war then hating me for taking it out with superior tactics.

Then again, it's probably not so superior against actual players. I'm not too good at the game, but since I have all the required DLC, I'd love to join.

This will be my first time piloting in a Giant Multiplayer Robot though, so I'll apologize in advance in case I screw up.

[Silverraptor]

I propose that the civilizations should also be given out at random. Count me in this game!

[Techwarrior]

I would like to join in this time around. I still am having computer issues, but those should be resolved by the beginning of next week hopefully.

I would like to propose selected Civs.

[Silverraptor]

Random I think would be more interesting as you can't plan at the start what you want to do until your first turn and your play would evolve from there.

[Driderman]

I'm always up for another game, but considering I got 5 running already I'll back out if the spot is needed by anyone else.

[Neon Knight]

I'd be fine with random civs, I suppose, but I accidentally selected Russia and seem to be having a hard time making the Other? option stick. Does anyone know how to get it to change back?

[GPuzzle]

Game is private and I can't join.

Damnit.

If we're going Random Civs, though... Let's go Full Random on that one, and have a completely Random Map.

[Silverraptor]

Game is private and I can't join.

Damnit.

If we're going Random Civs, though... Let's go Full Random on that one, and have a completely Random Map.

I don't know. Like 85% of the time random seems to go Archipelagos or some other maps with a lot of water. Continents should be decent enough I think.

[Mx.Silver]

I don't know. Like 85% of the time random seems to go Archipelagos or some other maps with a lot of water. Continents should be decent enough I think.

Which is why the map you pick is Shuffle.

[Dada]

Game is private and I can't join.

Damnit.

If we're going Random Civs, though... Let's go Full Random on that one, and have a completely Random Map.

Have you tried all of the invite links? As far as I can tell, only two of them should have been used already.

I'd be fine with random civs, I suppose, but I accidentally selected Russia and seem to be having a hard time making the Other? option stick. Does anyone know how to get it to change back?

I don't actually think you can reset to random - luckily it doesn't matter, since the host (me) decides what Civ everyone will spawn as. I'll just ignore your choice of Russia and spawn you as random when creating the actual savefile.

So far, we're three players in the game on GMR, with GPuzzle, Maryring, Techwarrior and Driderman expressing interest as well. This leaves room for one additonal player, more if Driderman decides to give up his spot or Techwarrior is unable to resolve his computer issues. I hope to launch the game early next week.

Oh, and I'll put in a vote for Random civ / Shuffle map.

[Maryring]

But I don't wanna be Zulu.

I don't overly mind random in general. I just tend to have extremely bad luck, and there are a couple of civs that are unfun to play as. But if people want random, I'll take it as a challenge.

Incidentally, any other fun surprises planned? Raging Barbs? No Barbs? More or less than standard CS? ... if someone gets Enrico, it's gonna be less for sure.

[Techwarrior]

On Techwarrior's tech problems:

I've been moving all of my stuff back to my original area, having been living abroad for about 6 months. During that process the movers 'accidentally' did something that upset my battlestation's feelings and it hasn't been operating right. I wound up troubleshooting the problem and am awaiting replacement parts. Which *should* be here by mid-week next week.

[Driderman]

A few elements to consider:

- More or less city-states than standard for the map tends lead to more gains for early exploration (better odds of meeting a religious city-state, more gold from meeting city-states). Also makes diplomatic victory easier and gives Austria & Venice better UAs (not that they're particularly impressive so that's not really a problem).

- Number of religions is tied to map size. Playing on a large map than recommend for the amount of players will lead to more people getting their own religion. Personally, I try to avoid going over the limit since everyone getting their own religion isn't much fun.

- Raging barbarians: Aztecs will have a major early game culture advantage, Germany will have an early military advantage, Ottomans may actually feel they have a UA if they play towards it. Also, people will fret and cry because they will lose workers and/or settlers to barbarians.

Personally, I don't mind random everything but I reserve the right to whine if I get the Ottomans. Pretty much everything else I can work with

[Dada]

AFAIK there is no way to randomize number of city-states / barbarian style / map size, so I'll stick with standard values for these unless someone actually wants a non-standard value. Everyone seems to be fine with Shuffle map and random civs, so let's go with that.

Maryring, Driderman and Techwarrior still needs to join the game on GMR. We are currently 7 players which is a fine number, but there is still room for one additonal player if someone wants to jump in while we wait for Techwarrior to warrior his tech back into working order.

I am in GMT+1, and mainly available for taking my turns in the morning (before 8:30) and after work. If you guys post the timezones and times where you expect to be available, I'll try to order our turns to keep everything moving smoothly.

Edit: Corrected timezone

[Maryring]

I'm GMT exactly. I'm pretty flexible on when I can take my turns, as I've got access to Civ V at work. Yes I know. I'm really lucky.

Also my Steam name is Skilvrel. So you don't kick out the weird lil Gremlin who just joined.

[Driderman]

Alright, I joined. GMT +0 here, I believe although daylight savings always confuse me on that account.

[Shades of Gray]

ans: Aztecs will have a major early game culture advantage, Germany will have an early military advantage, Ottomans may actually feel they have a UA if they play towards it. Also, people will fret and cry because they will lose workers and/or settlers to barbarians.

Germany doesn't get any advantage from raging barbarians. They might even get a penalty. See, they only get free units if they clear a camp. Raging barbarians doesn't increase the number of camps, it just makes the existing camps spawn more quickly. This, in turn, makes it harder to clear camps. Civilizations who get a benefit for killing units, such as the Aztecs and the Celts' Pictish warriors, will get an advantage. However, Germany will be at a disadvantage because it becomes harder/takes longer to clear a camp.

[Neon Knight]

UTC-6:00 time zone, steam name is Redleg Jayhawker. I'm most free typically in the evenings, after 6 o'clock.

[Driderman]

Germany doesn't get any advantage from raging barbarians. They might even get a penalty. See, they only get free units if they clear a camp. Raging barbarians doesn't increase the number of camps, it just makes the existing camps spawn more quickly. This, in turn, makes it harder to clear camps. Civilizations who get a benefit for killing units, such as the Aztecs and the Celts' Pictish warriors, will get an advantage. However, Germany will be at a disadvantage because it becomes harder/takes longer to clear a camp.

I was sure it increase camp frequency as well. If not, you're absolutely right.

[Silverraptor]

I'm GMT-7 as requested.

[Techwarrior]

Update on Techwarrior warrioring his/her Tech.

There has been a delay in my required materials being sent. I should be able to get everything taken care of Friday. I'm currently UTC (-6 GMT), and can get online after 5 p.m. local time.

[Dada]

Welcome to Magentawolf! What time-zone are you in?

I expect to start the game sometime during saturday, how does that suit everyone?

[Magentawolf]

Welcome to Magentawolf! What time-zone are you in?

I expect to start the game sometime during saturday, how does that suit everyone?

I'm EST, -5. Saturday's fine with me.

[GPuzzle]

Fine, but I'd like to mention:

I have now Polynesia, Incas, Babylon, Korea and Denmark!

[Dada]

Oh right, DLC check. Does anyone lack one or more of the DLCs mentioned by GPuzzle?

[Maryring]

Saturday works fine for me. To reiterate. I have all DLC.