Pokémon Thread XXIII: The Thread With No Name

[Sylthia]

You can really use any party you like. Also, don't use Dedenne. Pika clones should be left unconscious in the field after you beat them.

[ZeltArruin]

I have an Extreme Speed Dratini, if you still need one.

I'm on now if that's any good for you.

[Quietus]

I'm on now if that's any good for you.

I can provide you with Dratini carrying Extremespeed and Dragon Dance, if you like. A Growlithe would be interesting in exchange.

[Somensjev]

That's a mighty bulky team. At the very least, grab Knock Off on Drapion.

at the moment my gligar actually knows knock-off, but i want to change it's moveset.
skorupi only has one move that i'm keeping, the other three will have changed by the time it's a drapion

so, thanks to you, drapion has 2 moves i'm going to try and make sure it knows

So I started Pokemon Y yesterday after a years long break from the franchise, and I'm loving everything so far. But I can't help but get a niggling feeling of being expected to do things a certain way.

I mean you've got your basic starter, one of the G1 starters, the fossil pokemon, and the pikachu that the game basically expects you to capture early on. Before you hit the second gym, that's basically two thirds of your party set.

i still have yet to get the fossil pokemon (it's still a fossil)
i still do not own a Pickachu
the first pokemon i caught in a pokeball was Yveltal
the second was in a friend safari

you might be expected to do things in a certain way, but that means absolutely nothing

[Aotrs Commander]

You can really use any party you like. Also, don't use Dedenne. Pika clones should be left unconscious in the field after you beat them.

Yeah, they can never live up to the glorious majesty of the real thing.



(Seriosuly, though, Nintendo, for the last, what, three generations or something you've tried making an electric rodent to challenge Pikachu's crown... Maybe you would have more luck if they weren't single-evolution and sucked¹. You've proven with Cinccino you can do a "cute" Pokemon that kicks seven bales of arse, so maybe do one with a halfway decent set of stats and moves that doesn't look like it's hit the ugly tree more times than Mialee the wizard did. (Gratuitous 3.5 art joke!)

So I started Pokemon Y yesterday after a years long break from the franchise, and I'm loving everything so far. But I can't help but get a niggling feeling of being expected to do things a certain way.

I mean you've got your basic starter, one of the G1 starters, the fossil pokemon, and the pikachu that the game basically expects you to capture early on. Before you hit the second gym, that's basically two thirds of your party set.

Eeh... not really. I guess having been someone who has played every game since Generation III, I don't think about it as much: I usually spend several hours deciding what my party composition is going to be in advance and sometimes I will even get in and breed something I really want to use.

You... don't really NEED Pikachu, nor does the game particularly expect it, not really; it's just the first time for a long while Pikachu has actually been available from the start, believe it or not. (I had one because, as is evident above, it's my favourite.) And the Gen One starter is something you can afford to drop if you decide you want to use something else for a mega-evolution (that's really only why they are there). And I can also say that I have only ever used a fossil Pokemon in the game where I got it once, in Black. (I am using the Aerodacytl I found in... Leafgreen (the first gen III game I had) as part of my platinum team (the latest gen IV game I have). So, don't feel you have to use 'em. Remember, level grinding for dex completion is nothing like the job it used to be, if that's your poison.

(Me, I have a living dex - i.e. one of every type of Pokemon stored all at once - complied from Gen III to Gen V, so I don't need to do nearly so much!)

For refernce, my X party consists of the two starters (because mega venusaur!), Pikachu (with lightball - there is no other way to have one...), Vivillon (which is freaking awesome) and a gardevoir and a Gale Wings Talonflame, both of whom were traded in (and/or bred) from the playground. My team for whichever one of AS/OR is likely to be the first time ever that I have an all-traded/breed team (it's gonna be a Sun team)!

I'm sorry to hear all that, times like this are never easy. It sounds like he went out more or less in a way that was acceptable to him, though, and that's something to embrace. I hope you all manage well with everything over the next little while.

To carry forward - I'll keep an eye open for you, and next time I see you on, I'll let you know what your third Safari 'mon is.

Sorry for your loss. It can be tough.

Thanks.



¹Except for Emolga which was just about useable, if not good quality. (Which is a shame, since the design is so nice.)

[Elhann]

First of all, Commander, I'm sorry for your loss. I hope your grandad had a great life.

This said, last three?
Make that four, as III brought us the completely useless Plusle and Minun.
Pachirisu is a source for pickup, so it has a use.
Emolga has a nice design, but yeah. It's pants
Dedenne is just beating on a horse that's been dead for a long time. With an ugly stick.

Also, subscribing to the thread after my holidays.

[Sylthia]

I'm on now if that's any good for you.

Sorry, I had gone to sleep. Did you still need one, or were you able to get one from someone else?

[Tanuki Tales]

So, for my next blog milestone reward, I'm thinking of sending out a shiny Pokemon on Wonder Trade (did four legendaries last time). Do you guys think the lesser of my two shiny Vanillites would be good or should I try to trade for a better shiny?

[Sylthia]

So, for my next blog milestone reward, I'm thinking of sending out a shiny Pokemon on Wonder Trade (did four legendaries last time). Do you guys think the lesser of my two shiny Vanillites would be good or should I try to trade for a better shiny?

What flavor is shiny Vanillite?

[Tanuki Tales]

What flavor is shiny Vanillite?

Grape!

Edit:

Also, a Pachirisu apparently wrecked face at the VGC or something?

[Kuroten]

Edit:

Also, a Pachirisu apparently wrecked face at the VGC or something?

As far as I heard, yes. Volt Absorb Pachirisu was on the winner's team. Cute squirrel wins the day! :D

[Mando Knight]

Doubles allows for a lot of amusing stuff compared to singles. I mean, seriously, you've got a 405 BST Pokémon filling an actual strategic role in a world championship, against teams with powerhouses like MegaKanga, MegaZard (X or Y), MegaLucario, Garchomp...

[Kuulvheysoon]

As far as I heard, yes. Volt Absorb Pachirisu was on the winner's team. Cute squirrel wins the day! :D

Huh. Guess that I'm going to have to wait until tomorrow and check that out.

[Quietus]

Huh. Guess that I'm going to have to wait until tomorrow and check that out.

Yeah, I agree - that ought to be interesting.

As to the shiny giveaway, I think that anyone who complains about getting a shiny over WT is whining unnecessarily. Sending out a shiny of any sort is fantastic.

[Tanuki Tales]

I never hear from anyone who gets my WT, but there are some Shiny Pokemon that are definitely bottom of the barrel.

In other news....why can't Gamefreak seem to come up with good Mega evolution designs? I mean, would it kill them to give us more like this?

[Quietus]

I never hear from anyone who gets my WT, but there are some Shiny Pokemon that are definitely bottom of the barrel.

In other news....why can't Gamefreak seem to come up with good Mega evolution designs? I mean, would it kill them to give us more like this?

That... is an awesome Mega Slowbro/Slowking.

[Einrikr]

Actually, I was looking for a HA Weedle quite a while ago. No one here seemed to have one, so I went to the GTS and managed to find one. I've got some 5IV Jolly Run Away Weedles, if you want one. And access to your Safari is more than enough in trade for it (though if you don't mind, I'd be more than willing to take one of the Bagon off of your hands).

If you can catch me on, I can help.
I can help with Weedle, too, I found myself in your position a little while back. I now have a half dozen Jolly HA Weedles. A HA Tangela would be appreciated, I don't need any specific number of IVs, just the ability would be great.

Nice will register your Fc:s then

[Jayngfet]

I never hear from anyone who gets my WT, but there are some Shiny Pokemon that are definitely bottom of the barrel.

In other news....why can't Gamefreak seem to come up with good Mega evolution designs? I mean, would it kill them to give us more like this?

My main issue with Megas is how damn bulky so many of them are. You take pokemon that look sleek and clean and then just tie a bunch of weights to them until it's kind of silly. I'd like more Megas that looks sleek and stripped down than having details glued onto them.

[noparlpf]

Yeah, like Mega Swampert. Especially considering it gets Swift Swim...that doesn't look like a very swift critter.

[Astrella]

Has anyone here played the online Pokemon TCG? My girlfriend introduced me to it and I've been having lots of fun with it.

[Aotrs Commander]

Mega Lopunny looks slightly less bulky-ish maybe...?

[ZeltArruin]

I always thought Super Saiyan Mega-Lucario looked pretty awesome, even though it is rife with little added bits and bobs.

Mega-Garchomp actually looks like he'd be slower, something to do with the stance and that massive jaw. It just hit me that there is some reference to Excel Saga to be made with those pointy should-pads.

[Kuulvheysoon]

Nice will register your Fc:s then

Alright, I should be on for a while tonight breeding Shinx - I'll try and catch you then.

I always thought Super Saiyan Mega-Lucario looked pretty awesome, even though it is rife with little added bits and bobs.

Mega-Garchomp actually looks like he'd be slower, something to do with the stance and that massive jaw. It just hit me that there is some reference to Excel Saga to be made with those pointy should-pads.

Actually, it's kind of ironic because before MegaSlowbro, MegaLucario was the only Mega that I didn't like the design of. MegaMewtwo Y/Charizard Y look kind of slimmed down too, once you think about it (alright, Charizard just lost some belly fat and put it all in his wings, but still).

[ZeltArruin]

Actually, it's kind of ironic because before MegaSlowbro, MegaLucario was the only Mega that I didn't like the design of. MegaMewtwo Y/Charizard Y look kind of slimmed down too, once you think about it (alright, Charizard just lost some belly fat and put it all in his wings, but still).

I think all of the current megas look pretty good, it's really just that Slowbro and Salamence that look goofy to me. Even 8 limbed Metagross looks alright...sorta.

[Kuulvheysoon]

Well, if no one has tracked it down yet, here's the 2014 World's Master Division Final!

Featuring Pachirisu!

[Quietus]

I think it's about time to update my trade list.. I've bred so many things that I had to shuffle off several boxes of extras into my Pokebank in order to make space. Even with that, I'm struggling to maintain ten boxes for breeding products, between keeping three of each end result on hand (down from six each, almost all have extra presence in my pokebank) and the space taken up by the pokemon I currently have at level 100.

I'll be throwing a list on here of what I've added sometime tomorrow evening, most likely, and then adding it to my Giant League Wiki page. I don't think I have nearly enough space in my boxes to keep copies of all final-form pokemon, the way I'd wanted to...

[Aotrs Commander]

Well, if no one has tracked it down yet, here's the 2014 World's Master Division Final!

Featuring Pachirisu!

Thank you for the link.



Okay... so maybe I owe Pachirisu something of an apology. It's clearly a lot better than I thought it was. (I was paricularly impressed in it taking Earthquake like a boss from Garhmop, of all Pokemon.) Though not in a regular game where it's limited offence is much more impeding.

It'd be pretty awesome though, if we ever get the likes of Colosseum or Gale of Darkness again (frag, has it really been three generatons since we had those...) where everything is double battles. I'd have it on a team like a shot. I always did like the design, but the reality never really lived up to it, and least in the format I would use it.

[Mercenary Pen]

Taking a wild guess, the EV spread on that Pachirisu must have been focussed almost entirely on Defence and HP considering it was doing that with Base 60 HP and Base 70 Defence.

[Aotrs Commander]

Taking a wild guess, the EV spread on that Pachirisu must have been focussed almost entirely on Defence and HP considering it was doing that with Base 60 HP and Base 70 Defence.

Yeah, I guessed that myself. According the to youtube comments, it was Impish natured as well.

[Mercenary Pen]

Thank you for the link.



Okay... so maybe I owe Pachirisu something of an apology. It's clearly a lot better than I thought it was. (I was paricularly impressed in it taking Earthquake like a boss from Garhmop, of all Pokemon.) Though not in a regular game where it's limited offence is much more impeding.

It'd be pretty awesome though, if we ever get the likes of Colosseum or Gale of Darkness again (frag, has it really been three generatons since we had those...) where everything is double battles. I'd have it on a team like a shot. I always did like the design, but the reality never really lived up to it, and least in the format I would use it.

It was also pretty impressive to see Pachirisu tank a Draco Meteor from Salamence in the finals round...