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    Hmm. Internet Law: Pics or it didn't happen.
    Shall I make my own ones to show you, or just tell you to go on deviant art and search for "shark girls"?

    but yeah, shark babes are awesome. now that I think about it, I need to go make a Sharkfolk race to roleplay. because nothing says awesome like playing a race of anthropomorphic shark hunter/warriors. probably Octofolk, dolphinians and an impish, goblin-like anthro-lantern fish race, y'know of those fish that swim in the deep dark depths of the ocean (looked it up, its angler fish) and have little light-antennae because not all anthros/furries are about how good they look

    which reminds me: make Toads a race equivalent to the Hutts or something like that. well, Hutts are pretty much already anthro slugs, but it never hurts to differentiate a little. also consider insect anthros, great way to provide a creepy alien species in a world of furries, alienness is relative after all! also consider making birdfolk the nobility of furry world, looking down upon all other furries because they cannot fly, and thus considering themselves superior in their command over the air, hard to defeat due to air superiority and greater mobility.

    and things like tigers and wolves and whatnot, would be of the predator caste of society serving under the birdfolk, while things like mice, cows, bulls, gazelles and whatnot would be the prey caste, and thus the predator cate would be charged with more militaristic endeavors while the prey caste would be the commoners of society. the possibilities already excite me! I'm already imagining a world ruled by various birdfolk dynasties and their predator caste enforcers in a quilt of nations, trading with the furries of the sea while trying to defend themselves from the invasions of the insect folk on the outer frontiers.

    that is all, I have a new world to build. just letting you guys know I support this thread wholeheartedly and whatnot, and wish I could join talking in this thread more.

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    Shark girls?

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    Oh, forget it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Raziere View Post
    Shall I make my own ones to show you, or just tell you to go on deviant art and search for "shark girls"?
    DeviantArt is gross. I'd just go to SoFurry or FurAffinity to look shark people up. Lots more results on those two sites.

    also consider insect anthros, great way to provide a creepy alien species in a world of furries, alienness is relative after all!
    Insect characters/personas are actually really common. there are at least four or five high profile furry artists I can think of who are insects of some kind. One's even a fly or gnat or something.
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    also consider making birdfolk the nobility of furry world
    shhh, they don't need any more ego-stroking than they already have

    and things like tigers and wolves and whatnot, would be of the predator caste of society serving under the birdfolk, while things like mice, cows, bulls, gazelles and whatnot would be the prey caste, and thus the predator cate would be charged with more militaristic endeavors while the prey caste would be the commoners of society. the possibilities already excite me! I'm already imagining a world ruled by various birdfolk dynasties and their predator caste enforcers in a quilt of nations, trading with the furries of the sea while trying to defend themselves from the invasions of the insect folk on the outer frontiers.
    That's actually a relatively common layout for beginning furry authors. Another one is just "let's replace all people with randomly determined talking animals", which actually tends to work out better than you'd think (example: Jodimest).
    The whole dynamic isn't exactly something nobody's seen before on furry sites, that's for sure. And the whole "predators get to do all the fighting, prey are below them and get to do all the menial jobs" thing could step on some toes and hooves and whatnot. Baph knows I've gotten riled up over it in the past.

    Not saying that these ideas couldn't all lend some much-needed originality and spice to, say, a D&D setting or something. It'd certainly be better than the absolute mess of randomly selected mythological creatures that makes up the ecosystem in settings like Greyhawk.

    just letting you guys know I support this thread wholeheartedly and whatnot, and wish I could join talking in this thread more.
    You should go read Fred Savage, Mud & Water, anything by AlectorFencer, and maybe Concession, although Concession is a train wreck of a plot. Then you'll have loads of things to talk about in here
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    That is actually really creepy to me. Waaay to mammalian. I prefer the choices of something like Blade under Mask.
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    Yeah, that's creepy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaycemonde View Post
    That's actually a relatively common layout for beginning furry authors. Another one is just "let's replace all people with randomly determined talking animals", which actually tends to work out better than you'd think (example: Jodimest).
    Haven't heard of that one, but I'll look it up. In any event, doing that has always seemed to be the single most uninspired thing you could do with anthropomorphic animals.
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    That is actually really creepy to me. Waaay to mammalian. I prefer the choices of something like Blade under Mask.
    Hey, that's actually another of those big-profile artists on FA!
    You should look Chirasul up, he's good too.
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    Shark babes are exactly what they sound like. This is the furry thread, after all.

    In the context of that picture, though, it's from a trailer for a relatively old (2011-2012ish) furry schmup game called Shark Attack, where you picked one of three characters (Mischief, Mayhem, or Fracas) and COMPLETELY ANNIHILATED EVERYTHING IN YOUR PATH.
    I more was just curious what it was. I was imagining something like Street Sharks, basically.

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    Oh, forget it.



    DeviantArt is gross. I'd just go to SoFurry or FurAffinity to look shark people up. Lots more results on those two sites.



    Insect characters/personas are actually really common. there are at least four or five high profile furry artists I can think of who are insects of some kind. One's even a fly or gnat or something.
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    shhh, they don't need any more ego-stroking than they already have



    That's actually a relatively common layout for beginning furry authors. Another one is just "let's replace all people with randomly determined talking animals", which actually tends to work out better than you'd think (example: Jodimest).
    The whole dynamic isn't exactly something nobody's seen before on furry sites, that's for sure. And the whole "predators get to do all the fighting, prey are below them and get to do all the menial jobs" thing could step on some toes and hooves and whatnot. Baph knows I've gotten riled up over it in the past.

    Not saying that these ideas couldn't all lend some much-needed originality and spice to, say, a D&D setting or something. It'd certainly be better than the absolute mess of randomly selected mythological creatures that makes up the ecosystem in settings like Greyhawk.



    You should go read Fred Savage, Mud & Water, anything by AlectorFencer, and maybe Concession, although Concession is a train wreck of a plot. Then you'll have loads of things to talk about in here
    1. kay.

    2. hm. kay.

    3. hrm.

    4. well that sucks the fun out of it, I thought I had something original there. oh vell, anothah vonne for ze garbage no? I can't start out so common and uninspired if thats the case. I'm a better artist than that, even for furry stuff. looks like I'll have to step up my game for this. too bad my fav-furries are cats and dragons, those are common as dimes!

    5. thanks for the recs. I'll have to do research before I can bring my own brand of awesome to the furry fandom. I've been dragging my feet around in the RPG community for too long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Raziere View Post
    1. kay.
    Sorry, the "forget it" wasn't directed at you. I was responding to someone else and I decided it wasn't worth the response

    4. well that sucks the fun out of it, I thought I had something original there. oh vell, anothah vonne for ze garbage no? I can't start out so common and uninspired if thats the case. I'm a better artist than that, even for furry stuff. looks like I'll have to step up my game for this. too bad my fav-furries are cats and dragons, those are common as dimes!
    Trust me, it wasn't original in the slightest. I don't say that to be mean, but it's one of the most common worldbuilding/plot elements there is and most readers are getting sick of it, especially readers of the "prey" variety.
    But yeah, like, you know what they say. Your first idea is almost always the worst, no plan survives first contact with the enemy, etc. etc. Y'all just need to get some feelers out there, see what's already been done and what will or won't make you unpopular, stuff like that. I'll be the first to say that we really don't have that much in the way of traditional fantasy that isn't one-off short stories or porn--it's mostly science fiction. There's definitely room for that to grow; you just need to see what's been done and what's still relatively original.

    5. thanks for the recs. I'll have to do research before I can bring my own brand of awesome to the furry fandom. I've been dragging my feet around in the RPG community for too long.
    You should lurk on furry RP forums for a while, it helps with ideas :>
    Also, Skype. I could explain things more easily on Skype.
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    Sorry, the "forget it" wasn't directed at you. I was responding to someone else and I decided it wasn't worth the response



    Trust me, it wasn't original in the slightest. I don't say that to be mean, but it's one of the most common worldbuilding/plot elements there is and most readers are getting sick of it, especially readers of the "prey" variety.
    But yeah, like, you know what they say. Your first idea is almost always the worst, no plan survives first contact with the enemy, etc. etc. Y'all just need to get some feelers out there, see what's already been done and what will or won't make you unpopular, stuff like that. I'll be the first to say that we really don't have that much in the way of traditional fantasy that isn't one-off short stories or porn--it's mostly science fiction. There's definitely room for that to grow; you just need to see what's been done and what's still relatively original.



    You should lurk on furry RP forums for a while, it helps with ideas :>
    Also, Skype. I could explain things more easily on Skype.
    science fiction, yes but what kind? cyberpunk? space opera? post-apoc? raygun pulp?

    I could say, for cyberpunk, take that Batman Beyond episode and reverse it, and explore how people enhancing themselves with augmentations to look like furries might be ostracized from normal human society unfairly.

    I could say, go classic planetary romance, raygun pulp kind of stuff, limiting the setting to the solar system only, but have each planet house its own furry alien race.

    cause I'm betting that space opera and post-apoc are already done am I right?

    or for more a transhuman Eclipse-Phase esque take, build societies out in space in satellites specifically created for only furry communities, their own little habitats and specially created bodies, exploring how isolated and weird humanity will start to make itself.

    or if I want to hit closer to home on the cyberpunk front, a world where virtual reality allows you to be anything you want....but you still have to log out and be a normal human again. So the drama is in wanting to be something else, but not being able to become that just yet, so it might actually be set BEFORE the first idea with people trying to find a way to become a furry in reality.

    or to go fantasy, perhaps a world where people start out human, but when they come of age, they undergo a ritual to be blessed by an animal spirit to become a furry for some reason.

    as for Skype....kay, whats your name on skype? mines raziere1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Raziere View Post
    science fiction, yes but what kind? cyberpunk? space opera? post-apoc? raygun pulp?

    I could say, for cyberpunk, take that Batman Beyond episode and reverse it, and explore how people enhancing themselves with augmentations to look like furries might be ostracized from normal human society unfairly.

    I could say, go classic planetary romance, raygun pulp kind of stuff, limiting the setting to the solar system only, but have each planet house its own furry alien race.

    cause I'm betting that space opera and post-apoc are already done am I right?

    or for more a transhuman Eclipse-Phase esque take, build societies out in space in satellites specifically created for only furry communities, their own little habitats and specially created bodies, exploring how isolated and weird humanity will start to make itself.

    or if I want to hit closer to home on the cyberpunk front, a world where virtual reality allows you to be anything you want....but you still have to log out and be a normal human again. So the drama is in wanting to be something else, but not being able to become that just yet, so it might actually be set BEFORE the first idea with people trying to find a way to become a furry in reality.

    or to go fantasy, perhaps a world where people start out human, but when they come of age, they undergo a ritual to be blessed by an animal spirit to become a furry for some reason.

    as for Skype....kay, whats your name on skype? mines raziere1
    All of those have been done, yeah.
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    To be honest, I don't think unorginality is something you can plan yourself out of. Not fully, at least. I think it requires some familiarity with the medium to be able to tell what works and what doesn't, much as with everything else. Plus, attempting to make your first work your greatest will generally be little more than a great way to kill your darling, so to speak.

    In other words, start (mostly) unoriginal and work your way out.
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    Work through Shakespeare in chronological order.

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    All of those have been done, yeah.
    wat.

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    Now that's a convincing opinion!

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    Shark babes are exactly what they sound like. This is the furry thread, after all.

    In the context of that picture, though, it's from a trailer for a relatively old (2011-2012ish) furry schmup game called Shark Attack, where you picked one of three characters (Mischief, Mayhem, or Fracas) and COMPLETELY ANNIHILATED EVERYTHING IN YOUR PATH.
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    That is actually really creepy to me. Waaay to mammalian. I prefer the choices of something like Blade under Mask.
    Also hot. Knives for hands... *shudders*

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    4. well that sucks the fun out of it, I thought I had something original there. oh vell, anothah vonne for ze garbage no? I can't start out so common and uninspired if thats the case. I'm a better artist than that, even for furry stuff. looks like I'll have to step up my game for this. too bad my fav-furries are cats and dragons, those are common as dimes!

    5. thanks for the recs. I'll have to do research before I can bring my own brand of awesome to the furry fandom. I've been dragging my feet around in the RPG community for too long.
    There is nothing new under the sun. It doesn't matter if it's original, only that it's original to you. :)

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    Trust me, it wasn't original in the slightest. I don't say that to be mean, but it's one of the most common worldbuilding/plot elements there is and most readers are getting sick of it, especially readers of the "prey" variety.
    Aye. Most prey species are vicious and ruthless because when predators fight, it's usually for territory or status and no one can risk too grievous a wound. Prey? Well... Did you know some deer kill and eat the heads of birds for calcium. Just the heads.

    We assume claws and fangs are the best natural weapons but there's a reason we fear moose and mule.

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    wat.

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    Aye. Most prey species are vicious and ruthless because when predators fight, it's usually for territory or status and no one can risk too grievous a wound. Prey? Well... Did you know some deer kill and eat the heads of birds for calcium. Just the heads.

    We assume claws and fangs are the best natural weapons but there's a reason we fear moose and mule.
    Well, I think they'd probably count as the best offensive natural weapons, because they're the easiest to direct. Hooves and horns can inflict lethal injuries with a single hit if it's relatively direct, but they're hard to aim and adjust toward a mobile enemy, so they're better fit for breakthroughs and approach deterrence than hunting something down.

    That said, yeah, conflict is prevalent among prey species as well, and they have the benefit of number to give them some margin of error in terms of lethality. Most conflicts among prey species tend to end with both contestants living as well, though.
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    I do not agree that predator hands and feet are more accurate or sharp (or powerful!) than prey hands and feet. Teeth are powerful but come with the disadvantage "your face is near the other guy's weapons", which is amazing when you know it's life or death. I think it's just a matter of intent. We know one group can and will kill, perhaps by accident, and we trust the other group to generally not do that.

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    And yet cows cause more deaths than wolves and sharks put together.
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    And yet cows cause more deaths than wolves and sharks put together.
    We're a tad more exposed to cows.
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    Yeah, but if you go to a farm, you should probably stay on your toes a bit about cow kicks, and if you go to the beach you can probably relax about shark bites.
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    You definitely need to be careful around cows. In fact, a herd of bovine furries should scare the crap out of the canine furries. Wolves don't really go for bovines unless they're starving or they chance upon a lone cow. Too dangerous.
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    Y'know.

    I originally read shark babes as "shark babies".

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    That is actually really creepy to me. Waaay to mammalian. I prefer the choices of something like Blade under Mask.
    Drat. Beat me to Blade Under Mask.

    In my campaign world I put a whole bunch of anthro races on an Americas-themed pair of continents. There was a "City of Bugs" (mostly Abeil and other bug-races), "City of Birds" (dominated by Raptorans but with a healthy population of other bird-beings), and a "City of Mammals" (a very hierarchical "democracy"). Much like the Wulf Archives, it never occurred to me that this might be a "furry" thing.

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    Drat. Beat me to Blade Under Mask.

    In my campaign world I put a whole bunch of anthro races on an Americas-themed pair of continents. There was a "City of Bugs" (mostly Abeil and other bug-races), "City of Birds" (dominated by Raptorans but with a healthy population of other bird-beings), and a "City of Mammals" (a very hierarchical "democracy"). Much like the Wulf Archives, it never occurred to me that this might be a "furry" thing.
    I don't think it is, inherently. But then, I would also definitely not say "it is not" either. Hmm.

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    I'm not sure how these things normally work, but this should be a link to a rather sexy (cerebrally) catwoman.

    Or... Boy? I'm not sure... Ugh... Hmm. Now I'm wondering if this is what ol' Nabi looks like...
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    Alright. Here's a nonFacebook link.

    I think it's just smashing, myself.

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    A furry thread on a RPG forum, an no mention of Ironclaw or Myriad Song? For shame!

    The first is early Renaissance Magic&Matchlocks with a heavy historic influence, the second is a fairly broad space opera set abut a hundred years after the Galactic Overlords vanish (leaving all the subject races, including humans, on their collective own) and now all the overlord's stuff that you use for galactic culture is wearing out and falling apart. Both use the same mechanical framework, with Myriad Song having some mechanical improvements but a less inspiring setting, IMO.

    Also, Rawr. I be a Jackal HalfDragon. Also sometimes a warrior dragoness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakaydos View Post
    A furry thread on a RPG forum, an no mention of Ironclaw or Myriad Song? For shame!]
    I think myriad song has been mentioned before (and it's gorgeously named!), or I've seen it recently, but ironclaw is new. And the green wizard on the left looks like an expie of my 30-year wizard self insert

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    I have Ironclaw.

    I like it. its how to say it....has good useable magic but at the same time has good politics that isn't "this nation here is good for no reason, this nation here is evil" or something like that. its a good blend of useable adventurer magic, game of thrones politics and furry races that hits just the right spot, with no cosmic DnD alignment bull or elves screwing it up.

    ....now if only I could actually come up with characters or a plot for it....then I could play or run a campaign...
    I'm also on discord as "raziere".


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