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2014-11-01, 10:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Recent Pathfinder FAQs Pummeling gets Pummeled
The one other question I have about advanced class guide is in regards to the Nature Fang archetype. Does its sneak attack ability scale like a rogue's, or does it only get 1d6 (if so that seems like a horrid trade for wild shape).
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2014-11-01, 10:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Recent Pathfinder FAQs Pummeling gets Pummeled
A: It doesn't list any kind of scaling, so you get _1_d6 of Sneak, ever.
B: Technically, you trade "Resist Nature's Lure" for the Sneak die, and "Wild Shape" for Slayer Talents every 2 levels.
2B: Even if it did trade Wild Shape for the Sneak die, you have to remember that archetypes are (ideally) balanced on the whole, NOT by each piecemeal trade. Empyreal Knight is a great example of this. The first archetype trade is losing Divine Grace, and gaining "Speak and Read Celestial Language"...despite this, the archetype (with enough levels) becomes fairly decent.
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2014-11-01, 12:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Recent Pathfinder FAQs Pummeling gets Pummeled
It does however specify that it "functions as the rogue sneak attack ability." This implies that it also scales the same way given that the Rogue's Sneak Attack ability mentions scaling.(+1d6/2 levels)
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2014-11-01, 12:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-11-01, 01:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Recent Pathfinder FAQs Pummeling gets Pummeled
RAW-wise? Yes.
RAI-wise? Heavily implied. And/or reasonable houserule.
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2014-11-01, 07:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Recent Pathfinder FAQs Pummeling gets Pummeled
It functions as Sneak Attack, because it is Sneak Attack. It only mentions "rogue" because that is the first place the Sneak Attack rules were written down, and Pharasma help they, they aren't going to type all that crap out a second time.
You will notice that every other archetype EVER that grants Sneak Attack mentions a progression of when you get the next die.
Strangler, specific levels mentioned
Bushwacker, scales every 4 levels
Sandman, scales every 5 levels
Greensting Slayer, every 4 levels
Vivisectionist, odd one out in that is _actually_ counts as Rogue levels for Sneak attack progression (meaning a Vivi 1/Rogue 1 only has 1d6 Sneak)
Nature Fang does not mention ANYTHING about a continued progression.
You'll notice that most Sneak archetypes reference the Rogue, but have a completely different scaling of Sneak dice.
You'll also note that every other archetype that gets Sneak dice trades away a scaling/recurring feature, but Nature Fang trades away a singe, one time feature.
Nature Fang = 1d6 Sneak dice, no scaling