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    RedWizardGuy

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    Default other fast-progress casting prcs?

    like ur-priest or sublime chord.
    I'm looking for something in other spell list(druid's or wizard(prepare)) or in psionic.

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    Blighter and Apostle of Peace.

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    smile Re: other fast-progress casting prcs?

    Divine Crusader, Suel Arcanamarch, Shadow Templar, Nar Demonbinder
    Last edited by Rebel7284; 2015-03-04 at 03:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel7284 View Post
    Divine Crusader, Suel Arcanamarch, Shadow Templar, Nar Demonbinder
    Suel Arcanamach and Nar Demonbinder are not fast-progression - they advance casting every 2 levels, same as everyone else.
    Quote Originally Posted by Inevitability View Post
    Greater
    \ˈgrā-tər \
    comparative adjective
    1. Describing basically the exact same monster but with twice the RHD.
    Quote Originally Posted by Artanis View Post
    I'm going to be honest, "the Welsh became a Great Power and conquered Germany" is almost exactly the opposite of the explanation I was expecting

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    Psi-Hunter (Dr#281) get access to 5th circle spells at 7th class level

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flickerdart View Post
    Suel Arcanamach and Nar Demonbinder are not fast-progression - they advance casting every 2 levels, same as everyone else.
    To clarify, what Nar Demon Binder does is progress a fresh set of casting that requires third level casting and starts with fourth level casting. If it's timed right it allows you to get spells 1 character level early by gaining 4th level spells on the next character level after gaining 3rd level spells. It also makes a great minimal investment option for enter dual casting prestige classes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hand_of_Vecna View Post
    To clarify, what Nar Demon Binder does is progress a fresh set of casting that requires third level casting and starts with fourth level casting. If it's timed right it allows you to get spells 1 character level early by gaining 4th level spells on the next character level after gaining 3rd level spells. It also makes a great minimal investment option for enter dual casting prestige classes.
    4th to enter, 5th at 1st level, actually. There's also a trick to get in with level 1 bard casting using Talfirian Song, but early entry is always cray-cray.

    The biggest problem is that its list sucks and you can never get nines.
    Quote Originally Posted by Inevitability View Post
    Greater
    \ˈgrā-tər \
    comparative adjective
    1. Describing basically the exact same monster but with twice the RHD.
    Quote Originally Posted by Artanis View Post
    I'm going to be honest, "the Welsh became a Great Power and conquered Germany" is almost exactly the opposite of the explanation I was expecting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flickerdart View Post
    The biggest problem is that its list sucks and you can never get nines.
    That's why I like dual classing them with a higher tier caster. Their spell list is tiny, but it has things that are good enough to spam in most situations. You cast Summons (isn't the theoretical only cast summon monster class a low tier 3?) and Anti Alignment spells to your heart's content and have a entire casting class that's only one character level behind in casting to fall back on.

    edit: huh D&D tools is a least semi-functional, when did this happen?
    Last edited by Hand_of_Vecna; 2015-03-04 at 04:43 PM.

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    Beholder Mage (LoM) - requires a bit of effort to get into

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    Suel Arcanamarch gets 2nd level spells at level 2 and 3rd level spells at level 4. It's certainly faster than a wizard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel7284 View Post
    Suel Arcanamarch gets 2nd level spells at level 2 and 3rd level spells at level 4. It's certainly faster than a wizard.
    It's not faster than a wizard - they both gain spells at the same rate. It just essentially skips the first level of wizard (or more accurately, the first two levels of sorcerer) in its progression.
    Quote Originally Posted by Inevitability View Post
    Greater
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    1. Describing basically the exact same monster but with twice the RHD.
    Quote Originally Posted by Artanis View Post
    I'm going to be honest, "the Welsh became a Great Power and conquered Germany" is almost exactly the opposite of the explanation I was expecting

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    cheesy interpretations of ultimate magus.
    Damn girl you definitely have a +8 size modifier to AC!

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