V's Gender Debate IV [Official]

[JJ48]

I've always, since the first comic, viewed V as male, though I'm not sure why. In fact, I even have to occasionally remind myself when reading that V is ambiguous, in order to get some of the jokes concerning said ambiguity.

[Trebuchet]

I started out thinking Vaarsuvius was male, probably because the name sounds like an ancient Roman man's name. Lately, I have started to think V is female, possibly because of being epically badass. That should be a female trait, I think.

I am not eager to know the answer. I have a wonderful time posting comments about Vaarsuvius without using any gender pronouns, while trying to make the text flow rather than sounding forced. Trying to do that is more fun than knowing V's actual gender.

[factotum]

I have never thought of V as anything other than male, and it puzzles me somewhat when everyone says how androgynous they find him...

[Nymyrra]

I personally find both Vaarsuvius and Inkyrius as very androgynous -- neither V nor Kyrie strike me as "masculine" the way Belkar and Roy do, nor do they strike me as "feminine" the way Haley and Celia do. Yet, in their androgyny, I find that V and Kyrie both, for mean, lean towards femininity -- so were I to classify them, ignoring the fact that one should absolutely never classify another human (or elf) being by gender, it would be as "androgynous, but with feminine overtones." I find myself using "she" and "her" when thinking about this elven couple, and I've always seen V as in that shade between feminine and androgynous. I have tried to think of the two as masculine, just to see how it felt, and it was, for me, very difficult. And I sort of like this ambiguity; it would spoil something for me, I think, if V's gender, or Kyrie's, were revealed.

As for the changing perception of V's gender ... I've got to say, the long purple hair and pink speech bubbles don't help give me a "male" feeling. But, again, to each his own.

Just my two cents.

[Beren]

I initially saw V as somewhat more male than female, but when I saw the big ol' runic pink triangle, I starting thinking of him/her as kind of a butch lesbian. I can't really be specific as to why. It's just my current impression.

Of course, as many have pointed out in the past, V's gender is very intentionally ambiguous, and something important would be lost if we ever got direct confirmation.

[rgrekejin]

When I first started reading the comic, I pegged V as female. It took me quite a while to catch on to the fact that V was ambiguously gendered. To this day, I still mentally regard V as being female, and unless V's gender is explicitly stated, I don't think there's anything that would change my mind on the subject.

However, I also see Kyrie as female, and although it's a popular theory floated around these boards, I don't see the pair as homosexual. So I must be wrong on at least one of these counts. But, even though my mental picture isn't internally consistent, I'm not terribly interested in correcting it.

[JJ48]

Well, I definitely always saw V as having some feminine traits, but I always had those pegged to just the general "femininity", if you will, of the Elvish race. Not to say that Elves can't be masculine, but I think that in general, Elves possess certain features (longer hair, lack of facial hair, longer average lifespan, ability and desire to think before acting) that are generally, to humans at least, associated with females.

[Penquin47]

I've always thought of V as male... it's partly the name, partly the assumption that Rich initially intended him to be male and didn't realize the androgyny until reading the forums, and partly just my assumptions about his behavior.
It's a lot more common to accidentally make an Elven male androgynous than to accidentally make an Elven female androgynous, given that the stereotypical behaviors and appearances of the race lean more towards feminine than masculine.

Kyrie I'm pretty sure is male. Since V doesn't seem to have a clear concept of gender, I don't really think of him as "gay"... more "I love this person almost as much as I love magic". Male or female wouldn't make much difference to him.

For some reason I think of the kids as being one of each.

[Shpadoinkle]

V's a hermaphrodite.

Less flippantly though: I've always thought of V as male and continue to do so. As for why Haley wanted to share a room with him: probably because she knew he had no interest in her sexually, even in a casual sense, either because she already knew he was married (I forget if she was surprised, or even present, when he mentioned that) or because she knew he only considered her an adventuring ally.

[JJ48]

It's a lot more common to accidentally make an Elven male androgynous than to accidentally make an Elven female androgynous, given that the stereotypical behaviors and appearances of the race lean more towards feminine than masculine.

Precisely. Just as it would be more common to have a female dwarf mistaken for a male dwarf than the other way around.

(...hopefully this statement won't lead to people arguing about Durkon's gender. )

Less flippantly though: I've always thought of V as male and continue to do so. As for why Haley wanted to share a room with him: probably because she knew he had no interest in her sexually, even in a casual sense, either because she already knew he was married (I forget if she was surprised, or even present, when he mentioned that) or because she knew he only considered her an adventuring ally.

And I believe Haley's response to everyone else finding out about V's mate was "Wait, you guys didn't know V was married?"

[[TS] Shadow]

I've always seen V as a male. Call me sexist, but I can really only see a man as harsh and blunt as V manages to be sometimes. Also, Kyrie has a very "motherly" vibe for me, establishing her as female in my mind.

[Silverraptor]

I always thought that V was female. And even now when I read V has a female tone of voice in my head. But if you ever catching me say "he", I'm saying it generally, because I do not know which gender V is.

[Calmness]

Eh, i'm pretty sure Kyrie is male and so i'll say V is female. Never saw V as a gay person.

[NamonakiRei]

I always thought, personally, that V was a girl. And Kyrie struck me as male. Dunno why. But what I DO know, is I don't know(Emphasis on KNOW. It is different to 'believe') what gender they are. What we have is just a perception on what sex they are that is totally subjective and has nothing to do with the fact that we, indeed, don't have a friggin idea of what in the 9 hells V and K are.(I'm exaggerating that last part a bit, BTW)

Edit: And V could be homosexual, bi, whatsoever. It's just I don't get that feeling.

[Morgan Wick]

I've always thought of V as female, then when she started deteriorating I started using male pronouns more often, then uber-V seems more female than ever. I'm actually a little shocked people see Kyrie as anything other than male, pigtail aside. Which is odd, because the main reason I see V as female is the hair, and Aarindarius' hair is not that different yet I see him as male...

[The Extinguisher]

They both seem very male to me.

But I still maintain that V is a male gnome sitting on a female gnome's shoulders.

[DarthMuffin]

I've always seen him as a male since #1. The inn scene with Haley didn't change that, I just assumed there was some untold backstory between the two that made Haley trust V more. I also definitely see Kyrie as a male.

But I guess we'll never know for sure.

[Selene]

I've always thought of V as male... it's partly the name, partly the assumption that Rich initially intended him to be male and didn't realize the androgyny until reading the forums, and partly just my assumptions about his behavior.
It's a lot more common to accidentally make an Elven male androgynous than to accidentally make an Elven female androgynous, given that the stereotypical behaviors and appearances of the race lean more towards feminine than masculine.

Agree. I've always seen V as male. I've never seen a manly elf-woman, but they've got some pretty men.

As for why Haley wanted to share a room with him: probably because she knew he had no interest in her sexually, even in a casual sense, either because she already knew he was married (I forget if she was surprised, or even present, when he mentioned that) or because she knew he only considered her an adventuring ally.

Or because he's gay. Inkyrius seems male to me, too. Partly because of "ius," partly because of the body shape. Although he does seem more feminine than V does, to me.

[Warren Dew]

Lately, I have started to think V is female, possibly because of being epically badass. That should be a female trait, I think.

Vaarsuvius certainly looked like a witch gone bad in the transformation strip!

The first time I saw the strip, Vaarsuvius reminded me of a transgendered person, so I never had a problem with the sexual ambiguity. By now, I just think of Vaarsuvius as Vaarsuvius, with gender not mattering.

Given that, I've had little problem reserving judgement on Inkyrius. It's somewhat amusing to think of Inkyrius as gay and Vaarsuvius as lesbian, with their discovering their sexual orientations too late.

[Paramour Pink]

End all be all answer: V is a hermaphrodite.

[Serebii]

[QUOTE=Nymyrra;5968334]I personally find both Vaarsuvius and Inkyrius as very androgynous -- neither V nor Kyrie strike me as "masculine" the way Belkar and Roy do, nor do they strike me as "feminine" the way Haley and Celia do. Yet, in their androgyny, I find that V and Kyrie both, for mean, lean towards femininity -- so were I to classify them, ignoring the fact that one should absolutely never classify another human (or elf) being by gender, it would be as "androgynous, but with feminine overtones." I find myself using "she" and "her" when thinking about this elven couple, and I've always seen V as in that shade between feminine and androgynous. I have tried to think of the two as masculine, just to see how it felt, and it was, for me, very difficult. And I sort of like this ambiguity; it would spoil something for me, I think, if V's gender, or Kyrie's, were revealed.QUOTE]

Er...
This may be the first post I have ever completely agreed with on these forums.
I guess it goes without saying that I support this. Although I did say it.

[Mystic Muse]

oh yet ANOTHER V's gender discussion. SMITE EVIL THREAD!


seriously haven't there been enough of these? if the giant feels the need to reveal V's gender he will. I personally believe V to be female

[Remmirath]

I don't know why it would've changed.

From the first page I assumed Varsuuvius was male (in fact, it took me a while to realise it was supposed to be ambiguous), so I've never really stopped thinking that. And the same goes for Inkyrius now.

I guess if all elves we had ever seen in the comic were androgynous, then I'd probably stop making any assumptions at all about them, but so far all of the elves we know to be female have been obviously female.

[HamsterOfTheGod]

The way I perceive V's gender or that of any elf really has been irrevocably changed by this

[Niley]

I'm confused, really... I always thought V was male - you know, the lack of all the, erm, female attributes? - but now Inkyrius seems to be male, and so does V... Maybe they're gay? Wouldn't be surprised, since they have 'adopted progeny'.

[Selene]

if the giant feels the need to reveal V's gender he will.

The thread isn't about what V's gender actually is. It's about whether our personal perceptions of him (or her) have changed. Obviously none of us knows for sure what gender V is. I haven't seen anyone post in this thread claiming they do.

[Green Piggie]

Strip 135 uses the feminine pronoun to describe Varsuvius, but I suppose the shopkeepers could have just made an assumption. I always thought V was male till someone told me it was meant to be ambiguous.

[KyrtFurey]

Has anyone else had a recent change of heart about V's gender? Since the beginning, I have always thought of V as female, without being able to pinpoint why. However, over the course of the last few strips, I've started to think of V as male.

Edna

Female.

Shes shared rooms with Haley.

EJL

[The Minx]

The thread isn't about what V's gender actually is. It's about whether our personal perceptions of him (or her) have changed. Obviously none of us knows for sure what gender V is. I haven't seen anyone post in this thread claiming they do.

I do! I do!

No wait, nevermind.

Strip 135 uses the feminine pronoun to describe Varsuvius, but I suppose the shopkeepers could have just made an assumption. I always thought V was male till someone told me it was meant to be ambiguous.

People have used female pronouns at other times. Male ones too. See?

Female.

Shes shared rooms with Haley.

EJL

They're old friends, and Haley knows V's married.


As for me, I always thought V was a guy, and was unaware of any ambiguity until I read the forums. I haven't seen anything yet to change my mind.

[Drekhan]

Assuming there must be 1 male and 1 female elf to make children.

V is definately male by process of elimination.

V's spouse is clearly female. Only a wife would begin nagging and complaining about how she was rescued from certain doom in under 5 minutes.


Which leaves V's role as husband.