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    Onion really can't carry an episode on his own, and even though Steven's voice has gotten a whole lot better than the earlier episodes, an episode with only him speaking still grates on the ears. At least the seasonal Onion exposure is over with. Or so I hope.

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    Onion is friends with similarly named and similarly speach impaired creepy kids.

    Steven is less creeped out by Onion than he was previously.

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    Onion is friends with similarly named and similarly speach impaired creepy kids.

    Steven is less creeped out by Onion than he was previously.

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    Actually, thinking about The Kindergarten Kid: Steven talks to Peridot about gem mutants thinking and seeing things differently to other people. Has dealing with Onion helped Steven to (partially) understand the mutants?
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    I'd have said that it is a little late for that, given what we have seen with her relationship with Rose...
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    I was just saying last week how I wanted more of the mystery girl but this week's episode would probably follow someone I care zero about like Ronaldo. But it followed Onion. Which is somehow even worse.

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    Very, very, boring episode. Onion is not a character I greatly care about, and Steven didn't really get anything interesting to do. Probably a contender for worst episode of the show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manga Shoggoth View Post
    I'd have said that it is a little late for that, given what we have seen with her relationship with Rose...
    Indeed. I found it far more interesting that she would pursue a relationship with a human at all than that she picked a female.
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    You're silly. Things are happening really slowly. it'll be months before we get any plot.

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    Them Steven bombs spoiled folks. Then again, it can be killer to wait a week and only get a 15 minute update. Especially since there was a new episode every weekday for what... a month?

    Also, I dunno if Onion Gang was the worst episode, I didn't really care for it. Onion only really seems to work for me when he does a gag and then drops out... like when he used that harpoon gun way back in season one and accidentally sunk that ship.
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    I wonder if this episode was made because every voice actor except Steven's was unavailable.
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    I wonder if this episode was made because every voice actor except Steven's was unavailable.
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    Well I mean if anything this'll save money for other episodes down the line.

    Also did no one else notice that we're back on hiatus status now? Because we are...

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    Also did no one else notice that we're back on hiatus status now? Because we are...
    Adventure Time has been on hiatus for months now. I hope it's because they're still working on the movie. Uncle Grandpa is toast, and Regular Show is coming back... but IN SPACE!

    So, this is like a mid-season break we're looking at?
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    The best part of that episode was when it showed the picture of Garnet giving a thumbs up for a second.

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    Also, I dunno if Onion Gang was the worst episode, I didn't really care for it. Onion only really seems to work for me when he does a gag and then drops out... like when he used that harpoon gun way back in season one and accidentally sunk that ship.
    It was certainly the least episode.
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    I thought it was okay, definitely not the quality I'm used to by this point but not terrible. It showed that Onion isn't at least wholly evil, and does something with his time other than torment the people of Beach City.


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    I'd have said that it is a little late for that, given what we have seen with her relationship with Rose...
    Oh, I know that, you know that, but far too many were of the impression they were asexual* space rocks, it didn't really count, or that Pearl's love/infatuation for Rose wasn't in any way romantic.
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    Well I mean if anything this'll save money for other episodes down the line.

    Also did no one else notice that we're back on hiatus status now? Because we are...
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    think people are kinda mistreating onion gang tbh, yeah it wasn't the best episode in the world, but your reason for thinking it's the worst shouldn't be "because it wasn't about pearl and mystery girl", that's just rude. We'll get back to them sooner or later, in the meantime there are other things to get too. If you latch on to one idea and throw a fit any time something that isn't that idea happens, then you're kinda just being a ****.
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    People aren't calling out Onion Gang on being a bad episode for not continuing Pearl and Rose 2.0. They're calling out Onion Gang on being a bad episode because it is a bad episode. Onion can't carry an episode on his own. There's nothing exciting about the episode. Nothing that makes you excited because Onion is not an exciting character. He's an RNG. Things Onion do in one episode has no effect on the next time he shows up, so an episode devoted to exploring him doesn't carry nearly as much weight as an episode devoted to exploring Jamie or the Pizzas. You could probably create an entirely new character and have the episode focus on them and it'd be better off because it didn't have Onion's baggage. The episode also fails to deliver on the premise of exploring Onion, because all we see is that Onion has friends. Besides that, the episode is all about Steven being petulant, whiny and talking way too much.

    TL:DR Bad episode is bad.

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    I didn't like Onion Gang. Not because it's a particularly bad episode - I dislike the episodes "Secret Team" and "Fusion Cuisine" more - but because it had so few good qualities in it. I don't know what this episode does for the show as a whole, I don't know what Onion does for this show as a whole. So maybe it's better to say that I think it's a worthless or useless episode

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    I didn't like Onion Gang. Not because it's a particularly bad episode - I dislike the episodes "Secret Team" and "Fusion Cuisine" more - but because it had so few good qualities in it. I don't know what this episode does for the show as a whole, I don't know what Onion does for this show as a whole. So maybe it's better to say that I think it's a worthless or useless episode
    Yeah, this is what I meant when I called it the least episode. There's not really anything particularly bad about it, it's just that there's not really anything particularly good about it, either.
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    All the Onion episodes are garbage.. which is bad because I love Vidalia and Sour Cream. Not so much Fishtail either tho.

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    Oh, I know that, you know that, but far too many were of the impression they were asexual* space rocks, it didn't really count, or that Pearl's love/infatuation for Rose wasn't in any way romantic.
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    Well I mean, they ARE polymorphic sentient space rocks. I for one applaud Pearl for being willing to look past the species barrier.

    Come to think of it, Pearl looking past that actually IS rather remarkable...
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    Ok yeah, Onion pretty much is the worst part of the show, but thats only because everyone agrees that Onion doesn't make any sense. The Gems make far more sense than Onion. Their setting magic is pretty self-consistent and ties in to a lot of the themes and commentary of the show.

    Onion on the other hand, lets face it, is his own brand of weirdness that has nothing to do with anything, doesn't contribute anything of note, and doesn't really have a point by itself. It just seems to be there. Maybe Onion is for representational neurodiversity purposes, but I honestly wouldn't be able to pin down whats his deal if I tried. Which is honestly a lot of the cases of fictional representation of such people: they exhibit many traits of this or that, but its never exactly clear what mental condition they actually have. and some neurodiverse conditions can be look similar on the surface while being completely different.
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    Ok yeah, Onion pretty much is the worst part of the show, but thats only because everyone agrees that Onion doesn't make any sense. The Gems make far more sense than Onion. Their setting magic is pretty self-consistent and ties in to a lot of the themes and commentary of the show.

    Onion on the other hand, lets face it, is his own brand of weirdness that has nothing to do with anything, doesn't contribute anything of note, and doesn't really have a point by itself. It just seems to be there. Maybe Onion is for representational neurodiversity purposes, but I honestly wouldn't be able to pin down whats his deal if I tried. Which is honestly a lot of the cases of fictional representation of such people: they exhibit many traits of this or that, but its never exactly clear what mental condition they actually have. and some neurodiverse conditions can be look similar on the surface while being completely different.
    ...He could just be weird for the sake of being weird. I mean, that is very much a running theme with a bunch of Cartoon Network shows.

    Not everything has a secret meaning. XD Onion just seems to be Onion honestly.
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    I mean, I wish they would leave us with some plot before a hiatus.

    The question is what to do in the meantime.
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    Onion does feel kind of out-of-place in the show. It's alright when he's just a background element (setting the rollercoaster on fire, using the harpoon...) but when he has to carry a whole episode, it just falls apart. Bad character, bad episode.
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    I mean, I wish they would leave us with some plot before a hiatus.

    The question is what to do in the meantime.
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    i don't think there's anything inherently wrong with onion tbh. kid's just weird for being weird is my guess. maybe this episode was their attempt to add something more then just the crazyness we know him for, maybe they just wanted to show that there were more kids then just him and steven around. Heck, maybe they just wanted to make an episode where people could laugh about children named after food, who knows?
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