WarKitty's Feline Frenzy Random Banter #216

[enderlord99]

Vaguely relevant.

[Aegis J Hyena]

Thanks, Dimonite. I'll use those ideas. They're seriously not supposed to wreck the ONLY place in the kingdom where the kingdom gets its slaves (as long as slavery isn't in the main cities around the main lake, the King turns a blind eye...

[LaZodiac]

Why lookie here. It's a new Zodi LP.

Zodi Plays: Call of Juarez Gunslinger

[Dimonite]

Thanks, Dimonite. I'll use those ideas. They're seriously not supposed to wreck the ONLY place in the kingdom where the kingdom gets its slaves (as long as slavery isn't in the main cities around the main lake, the King turns a blind eye...

Hey, I get ya. I've DMed for worldbreakers before.

Why lookie here. It's a new Zodi LP.

Zodi Plays: Call of Juarez Gunslinger

Did ... did you change your avvie to match the LP or have I gone quite mad?

[DataNinja]

Did ... did you change your avvie to match the LP or have I gone quite mad?

We're all mad here.

But, yeah, Zodi changes avvies every time.

[LaZodiac]

Did ... did you change your avvie to match the LP or have I gone quite mad?

It's hiiiigh noon. Pewpew pew.

But yes, I did.

[Aegis J Hyena]

While I'm thinking about it, Dimonite, since PCs are good at burning things to the ground, if they somehow manage to destroy the place, or at least free the slaves (and the pedos, and the rapists, and all the heavy-handed psychos that are also locked up there), what would some economical consequences be for the kingdom? I'm no good at kingdom economies.

[lylsyly]

Okay, I admit, I am somewhat really technologically challenged.

If I buy a cheap tablet (with a USB port), will I be able to read PDF's?

Inquiring minds want to know ;)

[Dimonite]

We're all mad here.

But, yeah, Zodi changes avvies every time.

It's hiiiigh noon. Pewpew pew.

But yes, I did.

Well, it has apparently been waaaay too long since I've really been active.

While I'm thinking about it, Dimonite, since PCs are good at burning things to the ground, if they somehow manage to destroy the place, or at least free the slaves (and the pedos, and the rapists, and all the heavy-handed psychos that are also locked up there), what would some economical consequences be for the kingdom? I'm no good at kingdom economies.

Well, my first recommendation would be to make the complex out of non-flammable materials

But for a good model, you might want to look at how reconstruction played out after the U.S. Civil war - economic devastation, especially in areas like agriculture and mining where slave labor was more common than paid labor. These businesses became heavily dependent on two things: government intervention, and employing the newly freed slaves for horrible wages (which counted on the fact that they had no idea what their labor was worth and would also be unable to read contracts). You may also want to consider the following questions:

What's stopping the slavers from starting up again (or, if they're dead, what's stopping new slavers from taking their place)?

What are these suddenly free people going to be doing with their time? Forming raiding parties? Organizing rebellion against the government that abandoned them? Think "future plot hooks" and "consequences of your actions."

[LaZodiac]

Well, it has apparently been waaaay too long since I've really been active.

You should definitely participate more. Especially in my threads, so that you don't forget!

Also god damnit where is Rawhide so we can have a cowboy fight.

[Gnomvid]

Okay, I admit, I am somewhat really technologically challenged.

If I buy a cheap tablet (with a USB port), will I be able to read PDF's?

Inquiring minds want to know ;)

Just about guaranteed yes, if it's not already equipped with a PDF reader it should easily allow one to be installed.

[enderlord99]

I recursively translated part of a song from English through Haitian Creole, Luxembourgish, Korean and Yoruba then back to English. Here are the results:

Egeyi or sing a song guy slums. Because we all feel good you are in the mood for a melody, or singing a song tonight.

[Teddy]

Okay, I admit, I am somewhat really technologically challenged.

If I buy a cheap tablet (with a USB port), will I be able to read PDF's?

Inquiring minds want to know ;)

As Gnomvid said, yes. PDF is one of the most portable document formats out there, the only people who aren't doing it are either absurdly cheap or really closed up, and given that Apple aren't resisting it, I'm not even sure the second category even exists...

[enderlord99]

I pronounce the em-dash in "—ing" as a glottal stop. Who else here does the same?

[Aegis J Hyena]

So, I ran my game tonight fully expecting my players to try to assault a major city of slavers.

Nope. They globetrotted all the way across the planet via airship after rescuing an airship captain. First an airship to a isolated slaver city on the continent of ice and snow, then a sailing ship 2 months to the warmer anthropomorphic lands (it's midwinter at the moment). The "face" of the group ends up insulting their "interviewer" as to why humans should be allowed into the anthro lands... and after the interviewer tells the party anthros "restrain and silence your chattel" a fight erupts.

I had to use DM's fiat to go "the matron of the area uses primal power to knock the humans unconscious." Both because I was getting tired, and because they were edging dangerously close to having a third if not more of their party killed. I've got a bleeding heart, I should have had some of their characters get their throats slit for their bickering and backtalking in an area where humans had -no power- at all.

[factotum]

I would have let their characters get killed. Nothing like it to prove to a player that there are consequences for their actions, especially if they're not in a position to get an easy raise dead or resurrection.

[Coidzor]

I've got a bleeding heart, I should have had some of their characters get their throats slit for their bickering and backtalking in an area where humans had -no power- at all.

I mean, you say that, but you also have a game where furries keep humans as slaves and you expected PCs to not bicker and backtalk for some strange reason.

This was a trainwreck that could have been seen from miles away.

Although I do wonder why they were so bored with their current quest line that they just buggered off.

[Teddy]

I've got a bleeding heart, I should have had some of their characters get their throats slit for their bickering and backtalking in an area where humans had -no power- at all.

Pretty much all but the most ruthless and undiplomatically minded of states will tread carefully around foreigners and treat them with a bit more silken gloves if there is a possibility of political repercussions to harsh treatment. While a native human may have had their throats slit for bickering and back-talking, a group of foreign PCs with a bit of a name for themselves could reasonably get away with a lot more. For example, killing them in a fight, even when they're fighting you to the death, could have worse consequences than going the extra mile to knock them out cold, deprieve them of their belongings and then deport them from the country. Losing all your magic items is probably going to sting almost as bad as losing a character, and will make sure they think twice before trying to rustle the hornets nest while inside the hive, so to speak.

Now, I have a bit of trouble telling from the description, but was this a fight you thought they would win but with character deaths, or just lose hard? If it was the former, you could instead let them win the day by having the border guards retreat (I mean, they don't want to die either), but fetch reinforcements to decisively tip the scales later.

Of course, all of this is a bit hypothetical, but maybe it can put the current situation in a more interesting light? And depending on how tight a clutch you have the PCs n right now, deportation could still serve as a way to tell them that they screwed up and will have to try something radically different if they want to continue along their current line.

I mean, you say that, but you also have a game where furries keep humans as slaves and you expected PCs to not bicker and backtalk for some strange reason.

This was a trainwreck that could have been seen from miles away.

While I agree that you should always plan for the case that the PCs start a fight, there's no need to be harsh about it. I reckon there's a lot of minutiae we aren't seeing here...

On a complete sidenote, given the stopping distance for a train going at cruise speed, a mile's forewarning might very well not be enough to prevent a train wreck from happening. Especially if we're talking two trains hurtling toward each other on the same track.

Although I do wonder why they were so bored with their current quest line that they just buggered off.

Well, they didn't necessarily have to be bored, they could just have seen a lack of options to proceed on or too low chances of success. Or just had second thoughts about the long-term consequences of a success. An abandoned plotline is not a bad thing per se, after all.

[enderlord99]

Whether or not you know the original, I have a new line for an old copypasta. I'm not going to include the original, since it's somewhat religiously charged, but the new line is:

Engineering is like finding a white cat in a dark room, saying "that'll do" and pouring ink on it.

To those of you who know the original: does that sound about right?

[Aegis J Hyena]

I mean, you say that, but you also have a game where furries keep humans as slaves and you expected PCs to not bicker and backtalk for some strange reason.

This was a trainwreck that could have been seen from miles away.

Although I do wonder why they were so bored with their current quest line that they just buggered off.

It was the character backstory. In his one-shot intro adventure the player said that the character was a "fallen" samurai who got shipwrecked on the coasts of the human kingdom and whose brother is "missing". Since day one he's had a key to a dungeon that's important to the Main Plot but first they ran about clearing werewolf dens, searching for treasures on the orders of the Duke, etc. Then they decided to go out of the blue to the slaver city ("to burn it to the ground since I don't approve of slavery" -- glad they backed off on burning a several-level underground maze out...) and track down the character's brother only to find he'd been sent off and sold to the anthros.

I didn't expect them to backtalk because normally the character is nice and honorable to everyone he meets. What I expected were some tense negotiations and a struggle to keep his slavery-hatred in check rather than a fight being started almost immediately. I figured the character was exhausted from traveling across the entire planet and the exhaustion was the reason for the outburst. Cooler heads will not prevail a second time, though...

The anthros aren't smart enough to deport. They're going to send some of their best next session (Tailiu knows what I mean) and just have it out physically for dominance. If the heroes don't wisely back down and leave on their own for this to be resolved later (the anthros are honorable if primitive and while hating humans they will hold the character's brother until his time in "slavery" is expired, as per some earlier agreements made generations ago) then those who survive will be left with a chase to the coast and a ship while the Apex Predators (the anthro heroes-of-heroes) chase them down.

[Teddy]

The anthros aren't smart enough to deport. They're going to send some of their best next session (Tailiu knows what I mean) and just have it out physically for dominance. If the heroes don't wisely back down and leave on their own for this to be resolved later (the anthros are honorable if primitive and while hating humans they will hold the character's brother until his time in "slavery" is expired, as per some earlier agreements made generations ago) then those who survive will be left with a chase to the coast and a ship while the Apex Predators (the anthro heroes-of-heroes) chase them down.

How do you run a border control if you don't understand the concept of kicking people you don't like out of your country?

ION:
I got new members of the plushie family!

Spoiler: Plushies!

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[lylsyly]

To those of you who know the original: does that sound about right?

Works for me

[LaZodiac]

Happy Valentine's Day everyone. Hope you all have a good one.

[Somensjev]

Happy Valentine's Day everyone. Hope you all have a good one.

You're about two and a half hours late here :P


ION: my chilli plant is growing wonderfully. I've tried two chillis from it already (a green one which I ate about a third of, and a sorta-dark-orange-but-not-quite-red one which I cooked with bacon) and both were great
I think I'm going to pick another one later today, once I've slept, since it's a decent size and a great red colour

[Spanish_Paladin]

Happy Valentine's Day everyone. Hope you all have a good one.

I am a lonely paladin, but i hope all the playground get a lot of Love this day (and all days)

[DataNinja]

Happy Valentine's Day everyone. Hope you all have a good one.

What, you mean Expensive Chocolates And Flowers Day?

My plans for the day involve... having to go down to university to use the labs. Yay.

Oh, well. At least tomorrow I can buy all the cheap stuff on sale, and stock up. I don't care if I'm still eating heart-shaped stuff until Easter (i.e. next cheap stock-up day). Chocolate is chocolate.

[lylsyly]

Chocolate is chocolate.

Amen. Happy Chocolate day to all, and happy valentines day as well ;)

[DataNinja]

Blargh. Today was not good. My rant got a bit long, so I spoilered it for those who don't want this Shadow darkening their day of chocolates and flowers.

Spoiler: Rant

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It's reading break, and I had homework, which needed a specific program, so I headed down to the university to do it. My prof had said, and stated on the course site, that the program was available on all University computers. It was not. Not a one. I searched for over an hour, and not a single computer had the promised program on it.

Okay... that's a setback, but... no biggie, I guess. Onto Plan B. Follow the instructions on the assignment description to download the program for myself. Onto my piddly little notebook. 28 gigs of memory total, just over 4 GB free. Pretty weaksauce, but, it's been sufficient for school so far. No problem, I thought, I'd downloaded stuff temporarily before, and they were usually in the rounds of 2-3 GB. Downloaded the program, it turned out to only be a few hundred megabytes. Pleasant surprise. Got to starting my work, tried to compile. It didn't work.

Turns out, it needed a library downloaded, too. Which it didn't say on the sheet. So, followed the link, and downloaded it. Now, it didn't say how big the library program was. Nor how long it would take - at least not until 2/3rds of the way through.

The download turned out to take, oh, the short span of... four hours. But that's not the best part, oh, no. It also turned out to be... just under 7GB big. Those of you paying attention will see the problem with that.

It also did not inform me about the fact that it was not going to stop anytime soon until... well, not officially until well into the second hour, but I figured that out as it reached two hours. So, I was watching my free memory tick down, and it was still coming. Quite rapidly. So, in order to not waste coming-on three hours, I would have to start deleting things. I ended up having to purge literally everything on my notebook that was not completely irreplaceable, in a race against the rapidly depleting memory. And even then, I was down to single-digit Megabytes by the time it finished.

So, yeah, long story short, I had to purge 3 GB worth of stuff, including a lot of misc. pictures for the games I'm running, because of this. So... I'm rather annoyed right now. And am in the process of re-acquiring everything before I forget what it is.

Well, anyways, yeah, just needed to rant a bit. That was cathartic. Doesn't make things better, but it helps, slightly.

Edit: I just realized. This continues my longstanding tradition of having fairly miserable Valentines days. Yay. What god/dess of love did I annoy?

[Gnomvid]

Blargh. Today was not good. My rant got a bit long, so I spoilered it for those who don't want this Shadow darkening their day of chocolates and flowers.

Spoiler: Rant

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It's reading break, and I had homework, which needed a specific program, so I headed down to the university to do it. My prof had said, and stated on the course site, that the program was available on all University computers. It was not. Not a one. I searched for over an hour, and not a single computer had the promised program on it.

Okay... that's a setback, but... no biggie, I guess. Onto Plan B. Follow the instructions on the assignment description to download the program for myself. Onto my piddly little notebook. 28 gigs of memory total, just over 4 GB free. Pretty weaksauce, but, it's been sufficient for school so far. No problem, I thought, I'd downloaded stuff temporarily before, and they were usually in the rounds of 2-3 GB. Downloaded the program, it turned out to only be a few hundred megabytes. Pleasant surprise. Got to starting my work, tried to compile. It didn't work.

Turns out, it needed a library downloaded, too. Which it didn't say on the sheet. So, followed the link, and downloaded it. Now, it didn't say how big the library program was. Nor how long it would take - at least not until 2/3rds of the way through.

The download turned out to take, oh, the short span of... four hours. But that's not the best part, oh, no. It also turned out to be... just under 7GB big. Those of you paying attention will see the problem with that.

It also did not inform me about the fact that it was not going to stop anytime soon until... well, not officially until well into the second hour, but I figured that out as it reached two hours. So, I was watching my free memory tick down, and it was still coming. Quite rapidly. So, in order to not waste coming-on three hours, I would have to start deleting things. I ended up having to purge literally everything on my notebook that was not completely irreplaceable, in a race against the rapidly depleting memory. And even then, I was down to single-digit Megabytes by the time it finished.

So, yeah, long story short, I had to purge 3 GB worth of stuff, including a lot of misc. pictures for the games I'm running, because of this. So... I'm rather annoyed right now. And am in the process of re-acquiring everything before I forget what it is.

Well, anyways, yeah, just needed to rant a bit. That was cathartic. Doesn't make things better, but it helps, slightly.

Edit: I just realized. This continues my longstanding tradition of having fairly miserable Valentines days. Yay. What god/dess of love did I annoy?

Not to be overly pedantic but memory (RAM) and harddrive space are ever so slightly different, likely you have about 4GB of total RAM in your piddly little notebook. Ever thought about having a usb stick or flash card for additional storage as they would both have more space then your notebook's internal HDD taking up all but no physical space at all and at a very reasonable price.

[factotum]

Not to be overly pedantic but memory (RAM) and harddrive space are ever so slightly different, likely you have about 4GB of total RAM in your piddly little notebook.

People are prone to calling hard drive space "memory", and from the sounds of it he's got one of those low-end netbooks with maybe 32Gb of internal storage (of which 4Gb is reserved for the OS). Such a thing wouldn't have as much as 4Gb of RAM--2Gb at most, most likely.

Have to say, I'm a bit gobsmacked about a *library* being 7Gb. What on earth is in it? The coded instructions for creating a new universe?