What's your favorite headcanon?

[Rogar Demonblud]

Well, there is the Aston Martin from Goldfinger in Skyfall.

[Traab]

Heh, I remember reading a fanfic about the whole 00 agent list. They went with the inherited name and title. Basically, you had 001-009. Each agent specialized in different things. Both in styles of being an agent, and types of cases they handled. The agents holding the name would either die or retire and there would be another who had been training to take over their spot who is now "the" 007 or whoever. Of course, the fic also went with, "These guys really exist, and the movies are meant both to help funding by using sanitized stories of actual cases, and a cover for their james bond, as no mob boss is going to take as a serious threat, some guy who introduces himself as "bond, james bond"

[Bohandas]

Heh, I remember reading a fanfic about the whole 00 agent list. They went with the inherited name and title. Basically, you had 001-009. Each agent specialized in different things. Both in styles of being an agent, and types of cases they handled. The agents holding the name would either die or retire and there would be another who had been training to take over their spot who is now "the" 007 or whoever. Of course, the fic also went with, "These guys really exist, and the movies are meant both to help funding by using sanitized stories of actual cases, and a cover for their james bond, as no mob boss is going to take as a serious threat, some guy who introduces himself as "bond, james bond"

Which fits with the fact that in at least one of the movies he works for MI7, which is the propaganda office

[Gnoman]

Those hints are very subdued, though. There are some allusions to a dead wife or a loved one that James could not protect. If you have seen On Her Majesty's Secret Service you can connect these hints to the events at the end of that movie but they could conceivably be just a common tragic backstory for people who live in constant danger. The only instance of irrefutable evidence for continuity across different James Bonds that I can thin of is the beginning of For Your Eyes Only where Roger Moore is seen standing next to the grave of George Lazenby's wife. Can you think of more such incidents?

Of course, the new movies go full out on continuity but as of yet, all those Bonds have been played by Daniel Craig.

It has been awhile, but that's the strongest I can think of. It is more than enough to sink an already toothpick-weak theory, however.

[Lvl 2 Expert]

It has been awhile, but that's the strongest I can think of. It is more than enough to sink an already toothpick-weak theory, however.

There are inconsistencies in the movies if you look at them wanting this to be true, sure, but they're no bigger than the inconsistencies you find for all other theories. Daniel Craig in his first outing scores his first kill in a gritty moment of self realization. How does that work if it was secretly actually his x-hundredth kill instead? Or to go a little bit dumber: why does his age run up and down the ladder so much? And how come all these movies are set roughly in the time they were taped in. That guy sure looks good for his age.

The only one that might make sense is "they're all different movie universes", that is if you think that parallel universes a logical explanation for anything. We've become accustomed to it through lots and lots of remakes, but it's actually a really weird concept. I can't even find where to begin with the questions, and we just lost the main person who might have been able to make sense of it physics wise.


Meanwhile "James Bond as a code name" has mostly two things going against it. One is that one pre-credits scene where Bond visits the grave of Bond's wife and then throws Blofeld into a chimney, and I'm pretty sure there are several ways to explain around that. Maybe the new guy was honoring a fallen or heartbroken retired colleague/predecessor the way that man would have wanted, maybe he was pretending to be the other guy (seen from afar?) in an effort to lure Blofeld out. Maybe he was trying to solve the case of who murdered the old Bond by retracing his steps. There are lots of possibilities. It's really not that much of an obstacle. Okay, there are a few more dead wife moments, but most are kind of blink and you'll miss it.

The second one is a grave for Bond's parents in Skyfall which has their last name as Bond. That one is pretty damning. But it doesn't really support any other theory that makes real world physical sense either. The best you might be able to do is some weird Bond is a code name for brainwashed agents theory, and why would anyone need brainwashed agents? These people are hired for their brains. And since we now have the first blond Bond and we might only start seeing bigger differences in the future, the "all the same guy theory" doesn't look like it's going to get better any time soon.


So, Bond as a code name: acceptable headcanon.

[Keltest]

Maybe its not a code name, maybe their old civilian identities are literally erased when they assume the mantle of Bond? Its their literal legal name, its just not their original name. And details like the graves are changed to help erase the past of the person-who-would-become-bond for anybody who would care to look for such things.

[Gnoman]

There are inconsistencies in the movies if you look at them wanting this to be true, sure, but they're no bigger than the inconsistencies you find for all other theories. Daniel Craig in his first outing scores his first kill in a gritty moment of self realization. How does that work if it was secretly actually his x-hundredth kill instead? Or to go a little bit dumber: why does his age run up and down the ladder so much? And how come all these movies are set roughly in the time they were taped in. That guy sure looks good for his age.

The only one that might make sense is "they're all different movie universes", that is if you think that parallel universes a logical explanation for anything. We've become accustomed to it through lots and lots of remakes, but it's actually a really weird concept. I can't even find where to begin with the questions, and we just lost the main person who might have been able to make sense of it physics wise.


Meanwhile "James Bond as a code name" has mostly two things going against it. One is that one pre-credits scene where Bond visits the grave of Bond's wife and then throws Blofeld into a chimney, and I'm pretty sure there are several ways to explain around that. Maybe the new guy was honoring a fallen or heartbroken retired colleague/predecessor the way that man would have wanted, maybe he was pretending to be the other guy (seen from afar?) in an effort to lure Blofeld out. Maybe he was trying to solve the case of who murdered the old Bond by retracing his steps. There are lots of possibilities. It's really not that much of an obstacle. Okay, there are a few more dead wife moments, but most are kind of blink and you'll miss it.

The second one is a grave for Bond's parents in Skyfall which has their last name as Bond. That one is pretty damning. But it doesn't really support any other theory that makes real world physical sense either. The best you might be able to do is some weird Bond is a code name for brainwashed agents theory, and why would anyone need brainwashed agents? These people are hired for their brains. And since we now have the first blond Bond and we might only start seeing bigger differences in the future, the "all the same guy theory" doesn't look like it's going to get better any time soon.


So, Bond as a code name: acceptable headcanon.

The Craig movies are explicitly reboots that are not in the same continuity as the older films. It is impossible for them to share continuity, given that the older films involve the Soviet Union, and the Craig films have Bond starting out well after the USSR fell. They also shows the invention of many Bond staples, such as his trademark martini, which really hammers down the nail on the whole "adopting an identity" thing.


Bond as a code name: Zero evidence for, strong evidence against.

[Lvl 2 Expert]

I get where you're coming from, but it's still kind of funny how you phrase it. "The newest Bond is clearly a different guy, so they must all be the same guy."

[Gnoman]

It is more "You can't use the explicitly different continuity to try to force an interpretation of the original continuity".

[Traab]

I think the part about this entire topic that amuses me, is when someone states their personal headcanon, and it turns into a raging debate on the possibility. Like earlier on, when I mentioned the whole dresden/hp shared universe and it turned into a rather long argument about why it does and doesnt make sense. Ad now this one about bond. So many just get a nod of acknowledgement and move on, but a few really seem to rustle peoples jimmys and cause some backlash. Its like, come on guys, this is one persons personal head canon, you dont need to attack it to defend your own. Thats why its headcanon.

[Bohandas]

I forget what specifically it was or what episode it happened in but a while back there was something in a Doctor Who episode that suggested to me that the Doctor no longer spoke his native language. I think he got tripped up by an english language homophone while talking to an alien or some ancient person, which would suggest not only that the Tardis was translating for him but that it was translating into English (which I get that he likely really speaks but why would he speak it when not somewhere English speaking)

[Jay R]

I have a favorite headcanon about the making of the Game of Throne series.

It's known that they made a pilot which was rejected, and they had to make another one before the series was picked up.

My headcanon is that the first, unpopular one had a long scene of Petyr Baelish explaining the politics, against a background of two Masters of Coin assistants practicing their accounting skills.

[khadgar567]

I have a favorite headcanon about the making of the Game of Throne series.

It's known that they made a pilot which was rejected, and they had to make another one before the series was picked up.

My headcanon is that the first, unpopular one had a long scene of Petyr Baelish explaining the politics, against a background of two Masters of Coin assistants practicing their accounting skills.

boooring as bad as the game of thrones in my book. that was way to boring even for angst fest like game of thrones but makes a good point to fix the series or pull 180 in the plot.

[rooster707]

I'm aware that there was a first pilot for Game of Thrones that wasn't very good. Then they made a better one and the series sold.

My headcanon is that the first one had a five-minute scene of Peter Baelish explaining the politics, with two of his Master of Coin assistants in the background practicing their accounting skills.

I have a favorite headcanon about the making of the Game of Throne series.

It's known that they made a pilot which was rejected, and they had to make another one before the series was picked up.

My headcanon is that the first, unpopular one had a long scene of Petyr Baelish explaining the politics, against a background of two Masters of Coin assistants practicing their accounting skills.

Uh...

[Jay R]

Uh...

Oops. My mistake. That's the problem with threads that last for over a year.

[No brains]

At least we know for sure that's Jay R's favorite headcanon.

[2D8HP]

....practicing their accounting skills.

Is that what they're calling it these days?

[sengmeng]

Not sure if this counts as headcanon, but I've decided that John Wick's fighting style is called "gun-jitsu."

[Traab]

Not sure if this counts as headcanon, but I've decided that John Wick's fighting style is called "gun-jitsu."

Isnt it gun kata? I swear ive heard the term used before. Not sure if its official though.

[Malimar]

Isnt it gun kata? I swear ive heard the term used before. Not sure if its official though.

I could have sworn "Gun Kata" was a movie. I suppose I must have been thinking of Gymkata.

[Lord Raziere]

Isnt it gun kata? I swear ive heard the term used before. Not sure if its official though.

Forgive me for saying this, but I believe it is at least a tv trope.

[No brains]

I think Gun Kata was the fighting style used in the movie Equilibrium.

[sengmeng]

I think Gun Kata was the fighting style used in the movie Equilibrium.

Correct, and John Wick uses far more grappling techniques, so I gave it a name that is a nod to jiu-jitsu.

[GloatingSwine]

Star Wars was fully completed in 1983.

Fixed that for you.

[Lvl 2 Expert]

Fixed that for you.

Or in 1980, no ewoks!

Or maybe in 1977. Boy, I sure wonder if this Skywalker kid has a parent out there somewhere.

[Hopeless]

My favourite headcanon is that the prequels was developed using C3-P0 thinking he's a reliable narrator until someone points out he was mind wiped at the end of ROTS...
I look upon TLJ as the work of someone familiar with the above but utterly incapable of understanding it needs to be better than the prequels NOT WORSE to be actually believeable!😮😬

[sengmeng]

Fixed that for you.

[Malimar]

Didn't we establish earlier in the thread that "I didn't like these sequels so I pretend they don't exist" isn't interesting and barely even qualifies as a headcanon?

[Rogar Demonblud]

In relation to the sequels and their character assassination, yes.

[Hopeless]

So when is Pacific Rim going to reveal Monster Island and it's very own Gojira who are all surviving refugees from the Kaiju Universe?