Erfworld Thread X: A Series of Unfortunate Cliffhangers

[Kantaki]

Giving Charlescomm a awakened Tower strikes me as a terrible idea.
Especially since we already know they don't reallly take orders like regular Golems do.
Oh well, maybe they are lucky and it will help them against Charles.
Only to take the City for itself.
Erfworld would get ist own Skynet.

[guttering flame]

This page could be shortened, no doubt, but it's got some interesting ideas. Charlie as the main threat seems less and less likely. I'm guessing he'll become irrelevant in short order and the new opponent will be Charlescomm Tower/Gate. Which sounds interesting.

[-D-]

This page could be shortened, no doubt, but it's got some interesting ideas. Charlie as the main threat seems less and less likely. I'm guessing he'll become irrelevant in short order and the new opponent will be Charlescomm Tower/Gate. Which sounds interesting.

Wat.

That's terrible writing. That's like saying we set up this fight between a hero and Mastermind villain, only the villain has been defeated by his sentient house, so now the hero fight the sentient house.

Charlie has been set as Mastermind villain, having him defeated by a tower would be... Stupid. I suspect you are 100% right.

Why can't they just call a Carny and mindwipe him/her afterwards? Have Isaac call Parson, sort the ****ing Roger issue... And Carny yourself a suit of armor.

[guttering flame]

Wat.

That's terrible writing. That's like saying we set up this fight between a hero and Mastermind villain, only the villain has been defeated by his sentient house, so now the hero fight the sentient house.

Charlie has been set as Mastermind villain, having him defeated by a tower would be... Stupid. I suspect you are 100% right.

Why can't they just call a Carny and mindwipe him/her afterwards? Have Isaac call Parson, sort the ****ing Roger issue... And Carny yourself a suit of armor.

Charlie was set as Mastermind villain... kinda. What has he really done since the battle over Spacerock? He doesn't feel like the Mastermind villain.

An inhuman opponent is problematic of course but this direction can easily streamline the story. Overpowered Thinkamancers wiped by turn's end, pathetic villain/opponent Charlie replaced, widespread ignoring of protagonist and his side (by the other kindgoms and casters) stop at the appearance of the new threat, eldrich abomination added. It's not the story we started with but it could be a solid RPG game story.

[DigoDragon]

I found myself skipping texts on this one. Dunno if I'd be on board with a sentient comm tower. I guess Jed needed a worthy opponent. Dunno.

[lord_khaine]

I dont really think Jed is active enough to need that. Or that a sentinent com tower would do to much on its own.

[Otomodachi]

. Kinda whish they'd stop pretending there's still tensiopn and finish this.

I agree with most of what you said but sooooooo much with this.

Get on with it!

[Kantaki]

I wouldn't say that the problem is a lack of tension- although there isn't very much of it at this point.
My problem with Erfworld is that there is a interesting story, that there could be actual tension, but the countless meandering plot-lines are drying it up.

[-D-]

Charlie was set as Mastermind villain... kinda. What has he really done since the battle over Spacerock? He doesn't feel like the Mastermind villain.

An inhuman opponent is problematic of course but this direction can easily streamline the story. Overpowered Thinkamancers wiped by turn's end, pathetic villain/opponent Charlie replaced, widespread ignoring of protagonist and his side (by the other kindgoms and casters) stop at the appearance of the new threat, eldrich abomination added. It's not the story we started with but it could be a solid RPG game story.

He was set up as a villain only Parson could defeat. A person who could only be mentally matched by Parson.

If Erfworld maybe setup itself earlier as a sort of twisty/meta-narrative style of story, that might work. But we already know Parson is Fated to defeat Charlie, and not some Skynet wannabe. While going off the beaten path, might sound interesting, it would require another 300 comics.

Solid RPG game story, is in my opinion still a ****ty story, since RNG and dice rolls have sooo much influence over everything. Your low powered companion just managed to crit and kill the Slayer sent to destroy you with a weapon he barely knows how to hold.

[eschmenk]

This was mostly about how a dollamancer would experience deiIsaac in a link. It was a pleasant enough read, but most of it didn't advance the plot much.

I found myself skipping texts on this one. Dunno if I'd be on board with a sentient comm tower. I guess Jed needed a worthy opponent. Dunno.

There wasn't anything in the update about a sentient com tower. There was talk about possibly making CC's portal sentient, though, and a brief mention of Jed. If you want to know what's in the update, it's best to read it.

[Razade]

{Scrubbed}

[lord_khaine]

It really was a very interesting read, giving us a much greater insight into both Claud gauntlet and the Isac collective. And honestly, i will pick a good read over boring plot advancement any day of the week.

[Anteros]

Wat.

That's terrible writing. That's like saying we set up this fight between a hero and Mastermind villain, only the villain has been defeated by his sentient house, so now the hero fight the sentient house.

Charlie has been set as Mastermind villain, having him defeated by a tower would be... Stupid. I suspect you are 100% right.

Why can't they just call a Carny and mindwipe him/her afterwards? Have Isaac call Parson, sort the ****ing Roger issue... And Carny yourself a suit of armor.

I think Charlie is ultimately small potatoes in the grand scheme of the Fate/bring peace to Erfworld plot.

It's just that we've been on this subplot for a decade so it feels like the main story.

{Scrubbed}

[Kantaki]

This was mostly about how a dollamancer would experience deiIsaac in a link. It was a pleasant enough read, but most of it didn't advance the plot much.



There wasn't anything in the update about a sentient com tower. There was talk about possibly making CC's portal sentient, though, and a brief mention of Jed. If you want to know what's in the update, it's best to read it.

The Isaac-Entity did compare it to Parson's cheat though, in a way that implies they will do the same there.
So assuming that CC's tower will get a A.I. too kinda makes sense.

Besides, is the Portal even a distinct, independent structure?
I was kinda under the impression it was part of the Tower itself.
Considering Jed can provide Maggie with Juice it seems to have at least some access if we take recent revelations into account.
So awakening the Portal might very well have a influence on the greater superstructure it is part of.

[eschmenk]

They are accessing the portal column from under the MK, so I'm not sure it's really located in CC's tower.

[Razade]

{Scrubbed}

[Emperor Demonking]

He was set up as a villain only Parson could defeat. A person who could only be mentally matched by Parson.

If Erfworld maybe setup itself earlier as a sort of twisty/meta-narrative style of story, that might work. But we already know Parson is Fated to defeat Charlie, and not some Skynet wannabe. While going off the beaten path, might sound interesting, it would require another 300 comics.

Solid RPG game story, is in my opinion still a ****ty story, since RNG and dice rolls have sooo much influence over everything. Your low powered companion just managed to crit and kill the Slayer sent to destroy you with a weapon he barely knows how to hold.

We do indeed know that Parsn is fated to kill Charlie, so isn't it more interesting to put him up against a threat that - we do not know otherwise - he is not fated to defeat. It also shakes up the fate if he is still going to kill Charlie who is no longer threat.

In this bok Charlie has already been resolutely defeated at every turn. I had been thinking that the book would end on him scoring a spectacular victory, but I'm thinking that it might end up with losing his dsh, tower and archons instead.

My guess is that just like this book brgan with Jed its going to end with CharCom Tower. No guesses with what the Jillian/Marie will be, and I'm still intruiged.

[Darkspear]

They are accessing the portal column from under the MK, so I'm not sure it's really located in CC's tower.

Is it too much to hope that because they're accessing the MK's portals they'll accidentally make all the portals in the MK self-aware? We know the system don't like being broken as we see with Claud's dislike of so much cheating and that could be read as hostility to Charlie when they awaken the MK portals.

That way we no longer have portal hacking and we'll begin to detangle this mess by losing instant travel and capital city jumping/rushing.

[DigoDragon]

There wasn't anything in the update about a sentient com tower. There was talk about possibly making CC's portal sentient, though, and a brief mention of Jed. If you want to know what's in the update, it's best to read it.

I know there's nothing in the update about a sentient comm tower. I was musing over a comment someone else said earlier about the idea of Charlie getting his own sentient comm tower.

[guttering flame]

What does a sentient portal even mean?

[Razade]

What does a sentient portal even mean?

I imagine it will be explained if and when it happens.

[Kantaki]

I imagine it will be explained if and when it happens.

That might take a while.
Aren't we due a scene change?

[Braininthejar2]

In Soviet Russia, the Portals think with themselves?

[TheWombatOfDoom]

What if due to charlie being hooked into the tower, it means that he...becomes the tower...like a GlaDos type thing. He's currently in GlaDos' potato form, after all.

[Anteros]

{Scrubbed}

[keybounce]

In Soviet Russia, the Portals think with themselves?

I'm sorry, but somehow, with Parson portrayed as a gamer, I want him to start thinking with portals :-)

[Aquillion]

That might take a while.
Aren't we due a scene change?

Aaaand it looks like we're due for a hiatus! At least they explained why in detail.

Also, I'd have put "I need to get married" a bit higher up on the post, it's just sort of tucked away in there.

I'm sorry, but somehow, with Parson portrayed as a gamer, I want him to start thinking with portals :-)

He tried that one, but they said it couldn't be done.

[stsasser]

Aaaand it looks like we're due for a hiatus! At least they explained why in detail.

Also, I'd have put "I need to get married" a bit higher up on the post, it's just sort of tucked away in there.

I've suspected that Rob has to keep changing artists because he insists upon revision after revision, pressing the deadlines. He just about admitted that its that way with his text updates, so I believe that 'other projects', 'moving on to develp art style' etc amount to 'giant pain in the ass and will do greeting cards rather than put up with it any more.'

As for the quality not suffering from the 'put up anything as long as it's on time'? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA no.

Finally, splitting a book demonstrates that he is channeling George RR Martin in overpopulating his work with subplots and characters, without even Martin's limited skill set. (Yes, I think Game of Thrones and it's sequels are tiresome drivel.)

[guttering flame]

We get a two month hiatus just after I said the comic is about to get interesting again. Does Rob hate me?

[Rockphed]

We get a two month hiatus just after I said the comic is about to get interesting again. Does Rob hate me?

Of all the people Rob hates, I suspect he hates himself the most.