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2017-09-05, 12:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish ShIVe: Damn It, Dan, Stop Teasing Us!
Wait, is that canon? I thought that was just a widespread fanon.
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Spoiler: Second ExampleA second incident is the repeated attempts by Romilda Vane to get Harry to be her boyfriend by slipping him a love potion, which Ron ends up taking by mistake, and so warps his mind that he attacks Harry for not being as infatuated with Romilda as he is.
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2017-09-05, 02:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish ShIVe: Damn It, Dan, Stop Teasing Us!
Is that background story shown in any of the movies, though? I don't remember anything about that in the movies (though it's been long enough I could easily have forgotten it), and Hanma is being educated specifically by watching the movies.
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2017-09-05, 02:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish ShIVe: Damn It, Dan, Stop Teasing Us!
I don't recall myself, but it's a big detail to leave out. That said, in the books the focus is on Merope- she's portrayed as the victim, desperate to get herself a happy life, and making horrible decisions because she's been abused and simply can't figure out how to not be abusive herself.
It's played for laughs, mostly, from what I can recall: Ron being particularly pathetic about his obsession.
Honestly, I also am unsure why someone'd pick the HP films to educate on the dangers of magical means of coercion. Maybe it's the scenes touching on the Imperio curse instead? Moody's lesson on it is quite well written, in the books at least.
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2017-09-05, 02:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish ShIVe: Damn It, Dan, Stop Teasing Us!
Agreed there. There's a couple of examples in HP... but Imperio is in fourth year, and all the love-potion stuff comes up in sixth, and none of it takes up a large fraction of the movies involved. That's a lot of movie-watching for a relatively small amount of relevant content, especially if they were starting from Sorcerer's/Philosopher's Stone to give background.
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2017-09-05, 05:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Huh. I thought referencing Ranma would be the low hanging fruit here. Its been a decade but I am preeeettttyyyyy sure that show would have mind control and bad involuntary magic in spades.
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2017-09-05, 05:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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*waves hand half-heartedly*
It's a little of both. It's based on something Rowling said, but a lot of people take it out of context to make it a bigger deal than it is--Joe's line was that being conceived under the effect of a love potion was a contributing factor to how Voldemort ended up, while some people blame the whole thing on it.
At the same time, Rowling said that he wouldn't have gotten as bad if he'd been raised with love, so...I also answer to Bookmark and Shadow Claw.
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2017-09-05, 06:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-09-05, 08:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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IT's not so much a mental handicap as... Tom M. Riddle was an excellent student, very smart, very charismatic, a natural-born leader--the only reason he didn't become the Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher right out of Hogwarts is becuase the headmaster at the time wanted someone with more life experiance.
He was also a cold-hearted sociopath with an inflated sense of self-worth, and this was apparent from the day Professor Dumbledore came to give him his Hogwarts letter--he was excited at being special, but the second Albus said that the barman wat the Leaky Cauldron was also named Tom his mood turned sour.
Someone like that has little to no ability to empathize with others and tend to have less of a moral compass... but you can teach morals and empathy if only on an intellectual level. What I took away from the comment is that if Tom had been raised with Love, he would have ended up like that.I also answer to Bookmark and Shadow Claw.
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2017-09-06, 01:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish ShIVe: Damn It, Dan, Stop Teasing Us!
I just realized: This mechanic could end up affecting Susan, since she'll be one of the players.
Susan. With boosted physical attraction.
This has serious potential for otherwise very rare and out of character scenes. Not that the whole game isn't full of such things, but this one in particular seems noteworthy.Like 4X (aka Civilization-like) gaming? Know programming? Interested in game development? Take a look.
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2017-09-06, 07:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish ShIVe: Damn It, Dan, Stop Teasing Us!
Um... Is anyone else getting "Velma" vibes from Ashley's redesign?
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2017-09-07, 02:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Am I the only one wondering if Hanma is canon?
I mean... the situation, obviously, isn't. We know this whole storyline is non-canon.
Buuuuut, I get the impression Dan is having fun writing Hanma and her quirks, so I wonder if there will be a "canon" version of Hanma in the storyline at some point.Spoiler: Active characters
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2017-09-07, 02:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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No need to wonder, Dan has already stated that she is (see the commentary).
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2017-09-08, 04:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-09-11, 07:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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With the way the scenes keep jumping around, I'm getting the feeling that keeping all of these plot threads chronologically synchronized is going to be important for this part of the story, possibly so that when the violence starts we'll already know exactly where everyone is at that exact time and how they got there. It would do a lot to minimize apparent ass-pulls and help track how the various parts of The Plan relate to each other.
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2017-09-15, 09:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-09-15, 11:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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My thoughts on the NP: if Rhoda can shrink people/objects around a point within sight, that gives a really useful ability, and amusing implications as to where she was looking at the time.
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2017-09-15, 11:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish ShIVe: Damn It, Dan, Stop Teasing Us!
No reason for the centerpoint of the shrinking to be the centerpoint of her visual focus. She's not looking at the waitress in the prior. If her physical actions have relevance, it's more likely to do with where her hand is pointing.
I'm more curious about her arm. Didn't even get mentioned in the commentary but that's ridiculous.
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2017-09-16, 12:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-09-16, 09:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-09-16, 01:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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In Escape From the Mall, a quick flashback, the third hypothetical, and what she actually does to Kitty.
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2017-09-16, 01:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-09-18, 09:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Is the website down for anyone else or is it just me?
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2017-09-18, 09:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-09-18, 10:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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The site was okay a couple of hours ago.
SpoilerToday's comic was about Nanase being unsure about Eliot's new girlfriend's <I forgot name, and can't check with the site down> motivations.The end of what Son? The story? There is no end. There's just the point where the storytellers stop talking.
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2017-09-18, 12:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-09-20, 07:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-09-20, 07:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Today's comic
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Something about Sybil's words and appearance made me think she might be Voltaire in disguise. Her words seem like they'd push Voltaire's agenda (guiding him to make magic change), and she looks vaguely not-quite-human, but maybe that's Dan's art style for folk with chubby faces. Just her face looks different from most people in the comic.
But the commentary today made me dismiss that.
Also, I reckon they'd have security for impostors. We know that Verres knows a spell to check for impostors (what he used on Eliot when shapeshifted), and I reckon that'd work on immortals unless we had reason to think otherwise. And it'd be hard to take the time to be a full-time secretary for a guy who probably works a lot of hours beyond 9-5.
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2017-09-20, 09:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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SpoilerArthur unilaterally deciding to steal magic from everyone and put a lot of FBI agents and their presumed counterparts from elsewhere in the world out of the job confirmed.
He's still a ****, and I hope that when the incident inevitably happens, Tedd looks right into a live broadcast and declares exactly who and what he is and what he's capable of ant that he'll force magic to stay put if possible, becuase, fearing that the incident is too much, it's going to change.
Or, alternatively, that a Seer' Hidden purpose is to decide how magic changes and Tedd becomes that Seer, and he puts it right the way it used to... but makes it harder for bad people to get magic
And then Pandora apears behind him and vows to support him in this plan and do everything in her power to prevent people from taking action against Tedd or his frineds and family
and Arthur is watching, and fuming impotently because he doesn't want an angry immortal out for his blood.
And optionally gets glared out by the several wizards and normal spellcasters who work for the FBI. Possibly fired.
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2017-09-25, 04:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish ShIVe: Damn It, Dan, Stop Teasing Us!
Hmm... my post today is similar to my last one.
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Anyone else think that 'Ellen' in today's comic might not be Ellen? The frantic running reminded me of Jerry from a couple comics back.
Well, I think it's either foreshadowing a 'guidance' of Nanase or this is some foreshadowing of Nanase feeling slightly offended at Ellen. She seems to have slightly hurt feelings about the rush up--get answer--go.