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    Same here, I've never seen the toy aisle sorted like this but then again I've never been to many toy aisles. Still seems like this particular store is trying to be an odd duckling.
    I am responsible for a two year old. I have been in way too many toy stores lately, and can confirm that despite claims by various chains in various countries that they aren't doing the segregation anymore, they still are, by and large. Yes, even Toys'r'us. And it truly irks me that toys are first divided into pink (and sometimes purple) "meant for girls" vs everything else.

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    I guess the auditor told him it will cost him an arm and a leg, but gave him a 50% discount

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    I guess the auditor told him it will cost him an arm and a leg, but gave him a 50% discount
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    I wanna know where the rest of Punchbot's parts are. Unless they got seriously mangled, he has to know the rebuild will be cheaper with existing parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf_c View Post
    I am responsible for a two year old. I have been in way too many toy stores lately, and can confirm that despite claims by various chains in various countries that they aren't doing the segregation anymore, they still are, by and large. Yes, even Toys'r'us. And it truly irks me that toys are first divided into pink (and sometimes purple) "meant for girls" vs everything else.

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    Stores will market stuff in whatever way they think will drive the most sales. They don't give a plugged nickel about whether or not how they market it is politically correct or not, unless it becomes so controversial that they are afraid it will cost them sales.

    Want them to stop segregating "girls' toys"? Buy all your daughters erector sets and all your sons Barbie dolls, and get all your friends to do the same.

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    Stores will market stuff in whatever way they think will drive the most sales. They don't give a plugged nickel about whether or not how they market it is politically correct or not, unless it becomes so controversial that they are afraid it will cost them sales.

    Want them to stop segregating "girls' toys"? Buy all your daughters erector sets and all your sons Barbie dolls, and get all your friends to do the same.
    Which I do. Which is why I find it really annoying that to get the full range of constructor sets or legos or cars or kitchen toys I have to go to both the "pink" and "other colours" sections.

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    This is Barry's fault, isn't it?
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    I tend to assume that everything is Barry's fault until proven otherwise.
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    They should really keep Samantha at arm's lenght.

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    She looks like one of the Three Stooges with that haircut.
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    I'm really not a fan of that new haircut...

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    I tend to assume that everything is Barry's fault until proven otherwise.
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    You think we wanted to start an Arm's race?
    Collecting moose's "samples" is not a task for the weak or the feint-hearted, but Punchbot just had to give it a go. And then his arm fell off.

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    ... Punchbot, we love you, but how do you accidentally swallow your keys? Someone needs to get him a better sense of self-preservation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf_c View Post
    Which I do. Which is why I find it really annoying that to get the full range of constructor sets or legos or cars or kitchen toys I have to go to both the "pink" and "other colours" sections.

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    How's it going as far as getting all of your friends to do the same?

    On a more serious note, while I can understand that someone might find stores gearing their marketing to stereotypical gender roles annoying or even offensive, I don't see the problem with having to go to different aisles or sections for different toys. It's not like everything can be on the same aisle anyway.

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    How's it going as far as getting all of your friends to do the same?

    On a more serious note, while I can understand that someone might find stores gearing their marketing to stereotypical gender roles annoying or even offensive, I don't see the problem with having to go to different aisles or sections for different toys. It's not like everything can be on the same aisle anyway.
    Ergo, the problem others are describing isn't just "having to go to different aisles or sections for different toys." I mean, that's been pretty clear from previous discussion, but it's nice to have confirmation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethologica View Post
    Ergo, the problem others are describing isn't just "having to go to different aisles or sections for different toys." I mean, that's been pretty clear from previous discussion, but it's nice to have confirmation.
    Yes, I know that in general, that's the case. But post #606 implies that merely having to go to different aisles or section is a problem in and of itself for GW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dps View Post
    Yes, I know that in general, that's the case. But post #606 implies that merely having to go to different aisles or section is a problem in and of itself for GW.
    Even if that post wasn't but a part of the larger position taken by GW, it is a complaint about bad classification hierarchies that sort "pink" from "not pink" at the top level resulting in unnecessary trips between sections, not about the mere fact of having to go to multiple sections to find different kinds of toys.

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    I think a better example would be smaller stores. Like the toy aisle where I work is organized Board Games -> Plushies->Dolls-> Pink Blind Bags and collectibles-> Action Figures-> All other Blind Bags and Collectibles.

    Granted, it's not all bad. You'll find all the Licensed Toys of the same type in the same place whether it's Frozen, Cars, Disney Princesses, or Ninja Turtles, but at the same time the Pink Power Ranger from has been sitting dejected on the shelf for upward of a year and a half because nobody wants to buy her for a child of either gender.

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    How's it going as far as getting all of your friends to do the same?
    Well enough, despite the efforts by people to insist that I am imagining it all, that no such discrimination exist, or that the issues I bring up are overblown, as you seem to want to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by dps View Post
    On a more serious note, while I can understand that someone might find stores gearing their marketing to stereotypical gender roles annoying or even offensive, I don't see the problem with having to go to different aisles or sections for different toys. It's not like everything can be on the same aisle anyway.
    Way to minimise what I was talking about. This, you may recall, started with the affirmation that no such issue existed.

    Second, you somehow missed the fact that I need to go to different aisles for the same toys, not different ones. If I want to get, say, wooden blocks, I need to go to both the girl (sorry, "pink") and then the other. Do tell, what about that seems normal or correct to you, that you feel the need to think this is somehow a petty complaint?

    I have to assume at this point that you are "arguing" (and I'm using that word quite wrongly) in bad faith.

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    against a yeti blue? No.


    People like that only exist in facebook stories that people make up for likes. Next you'll tell me the whole store clapped. He was fired on the spot and the manager gave her 100 dollars.


    See above.

    Okay, that's possible. Still makes the "little lady comment weird

    The whole thing seemed really forced and awkward
    Please keep the nothing happens that I haven't happen to me stuff on reddit, it is annoying enough there when people declare everything fake that they don't want to believe. (I just really find that annoying here if they at least made actual arguments why a story is fate but it usually is just "I don't believe people do that so they don't" so irritating.)
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    Sam does not believe in boundaries.

    And she's probably going to grow up to be a genius robo-tech. Or mad scientist.

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    ... Punchbot, we love you, but how do you accidentally swallow your keys? Someone needs to get
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    It doesn't look like he has pockets. It is POSSIBLE he had to carry something with both hands, but also needed to unlock a door or two along the way to get where he was going. So he put the keys in his mouth to have them, and a misstep (or, this being Punchbot, the opportunity to punch something) distracted him and lead the keys to slide down.

    That's pretty speculative.

    I'm also wondering about his internal construction. A bunch of metal keys can rattle around in him without touching contacts and leading to a spectacular short-circuit?

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    I'm not sure why he would even have a throat with which to swallow. A small mouth-cavity for the sake of facial expressions that aren't just images on a screen, sure. But why does he have a throat?
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    I'm not sure why he would even have a throat with which to swallow. A small mouth-cavity for the sake of facial expressions that aren't just images on a screen, sure. But why does he have a throat?
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    Way to minimise what I was talking about. This, you may recall, started with the affirmation that no such issue existed.

    Second, you somehow missed the fact that I need to go to different aisles for the same toys, not different ones. If I want to get, say, wooden blocks, I need to go to both the girl (sorry, "pink") and then the other. Do tell, what about that seems normal or correct to you, that you feel the need to think this is somehow a petty complaint?
    Well, yes, I did miss that point. My bad.

    I have to assume at this point that you are "arguing" (and I'm using that word quite wrongly) in bad faith.

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    That would be an incorrect assumption. Though I didn't know that we were arguing; I thought it was just a discussion.

    At any rate, my point was that stores aren't trying to push an agenda of perpetuating gender stereotypes, nor are they deliberately trying to inconvenience you or other customers; OTOH, they're not really interested in any agenda to eliminate gender stereotypes--they're just interesting in trying to maximize their sales and profits. At least in general; there are probably some exceptions, especially when we start to consider local stores and not chains.

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    I'm not sure why he would even have a throat with which to swallow. A small mouth-cavity for the sake of facial expressions that aren't just images on a screen, sure. But why does he have a throat?
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    ... this is actually much better.

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    I love punchbot. there is just something so innocently happy about him.
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    I love punchbot. there is just something so innocently happy about him.
    He is an accoutant. Off course he is happy ^_^

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    Since Sam's new haircut appeared here, I've seen multiple women on TV with somewhat similar haircuts.

    Is his a new thing that I have not seen in person because I do not live on the hipster coasts?
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