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    Quote Originally Posted by Traab View Post
    Tilly IS right though. While you or I might look on this as "not worth the effort" This is her job, to maximize everything she does. For an hour or two of effort, hannerlore may get herself a cheaper plan with a better phone that will last her the next year or so. Every scenario where "I dont want to put up a fuss" is another area where a small profit is lost and with it being her job to take care of these things, there is no problem with her doing it.

    Where you just grab a coffee, she makes sure its made exactly how you want it, with a pretty bit of foam art on the top
    Where you go to the nearest gas station to fill your car, she tracks down the best station to go to thats the most cost effective
    If someone messes up your dinner order you get it exchanged and leave it at that. She gets the meal comped and ensures yours is perfect before bringing it to you.

    Its a bunch of small things that make your life a little bit easier or better. She doesnt just keep track of appointments or whatever, as hannerlore said, she has apps that can handle that part, its her job to be a buffer between you and the world, making sure only the best reaches you while the rest is filtered out. Lets go back to appointments for a sec. You might make an appointment to go to the doctor, she makes sure the appointment is at the best time possible and that cute PA with the great bedside manner is the one who will take care of you. Little things that make your experience better.
    In order to do that, though, the PA has to know the client's preferences. Tilly clearly doesn't have a clue about what Hanners wants, despite having a dossier on her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dps View Post
    In order to do that, though, the PA has to know the client's preferences. Tilly clearly doesn't have a clue about what Hanners wants, despite having a dossier on her.
    Yes obviously, she still needs to learn the specifics of what hannelore wants. Its her first day. Nobody starts work at a new place already knowing everything about how it works.
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    Default Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn

    I don't know, the client specifically saying "I don't want this" should give her a hint that maybe this is not a good idea. Even if she could do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morquard View Post
    I don't know, the client specifically saying "I don't want this" should give her a hint that maybe this is not a good idea. Even if she could do it.
    "Doing things people want" and "Taking people at face value" are traits that make for very good social interactions, but for very poor fiction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by truemane View Post
    "Doing things people want" and "Taking people at face value" are traits that make for very good social interactions, but for very poor fiction.
    This arc has not been so good that the alternative should not be considered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truemane View Post
    "Doing things people want" and "Taking people at face value" are traits that make for very good social interactions, but for very poor fiction.
    Really? Constantly misunderstanding what someone else is trying to tell you because the plot demands it sounds like very poor fiction to me. It's an entire subset of the "idiot plot".
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    New comic.

    Whoa, yes, let's not talk to Hanners about her mother right now. O_O;;

    And OK, so Tilly is not that ridiculous and upsetting when she's actually got something to do. In fact, she's pretty impressive. I wonder if there really is anything Hanners can set her to do that will make them both happy.

    Dealing with Hanners' Nemesis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eee View Post
    New comic.

    Whoa, yes, let's not talk to Hanners about her mother right now. O_O;;

    And OK, so Tilly is not that ridiculous and upsetting when she's actually got something to do. In fact, she's pretty impressive. I wonder if there really is anything Hanners can set her to do that will make them both happy.

    Dealing with Hanners' Nemesis?
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    The conflict between a character whose entire motivation is "I want to be useful" against someone who's raison d'etre is "I want to be able to stand on my own two feet" is actually an interesting one, especially if they can find a comfortable middle ground.

    Unfortunately, Jeph started with Tilly being obnoxious instead of focusing on that first.
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    Default Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn

    We haven't seen Scary Hannelore in a while.

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    Default Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn

    Well, it took 3 weeks, but Tilly actually did something helpful! Hooray!
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    I wonder if it counts as not being self-sufficient to sic her on the mom. That is, Tilly's full-time job is now preventing Hanners' mother from interfering in Hanners' life in any form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    Well, it took 3 weeks, but Tilly actually did something helpful! Hooray!
    And it only took 2 and a half for hannelore to LET her do something helpful, hooray!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traab View Post
    And it only took 2 and a half for hannelore to LET her do something helpful, hooray!
    Do remember that there doesn't seem to be much she could actually do to help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by georgie_leech View Post
    I wonder if it counts as not being self-sufficient to sic her on the mom. That is, Tilly's full-time job is now preventing Hanners' mother from interfering in Hanners' life in any form.
    Thats.. brilliant

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    Quote Originally Posted by georgie_leech View Post
    I wonder if it counts as not being self-sufficient to sic her on the mom. That is, Tilly's full-time job is now preventing Hanners' mother from interfering in Hanners' life in any form.
    That's honestly where I'm seeing this arc end up - I don't see Tilly sticking around otherwise. And I know Jeph is working on a plausible excuse to keep her around. (It fits with his MO regarding new QC characters)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Landis963 View Post
    That's honestly where I'm seeing this arc end up - I don't see Tilly sticking around otherwise. And I know Jeph is working on a plausible excuse to keep her around. (It fits with his MO regarding new QC characters)
    They could also have her work in Coffee Of Doom dealing with finances or somesuch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by georgie_leech View Post
    I wonder if it counts as not being self-sufficient to sic her on the mom. That is, Tilly's full-time job is now preventing Hanners' mother from interfering in Hanners' life in any form.
    Someone actually thought of that a few pages back:

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    Tilly is fighting an uphill battle, and losing.

    But there's one thing Hanners can set Tilly to doing that will please both of them. "Tilly, from now on, it is your responsibility to keep my mother from interfering with my life. Good luck and may you win."

    It would be an epic battle, I think...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    Someone actually thought of that a few pages back:
    I posted my agreement with that as well, right below it; I wasn't trying to claim it as my idea. . I was adding to the thought with this new point that part of Hanners' goals is to be self sufficient, which I hadn't considered before. That is, would it be more important to her that her mother not have negative influence on her life, or would she rather she be the one to deal with her mother regardless of how that turns out?
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    Its always better to have ratified peace treaties with the largest spiders in your basement.

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    I usually name the recurring spiders around my house. Sometimes, I feed them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldan View Post
    I usually name the recurring spiders around my house. Sometimes, I feed them.
    That would require me to be able to tell them apart...
    Also, it's their job to feed themselves. My part is to (mostly) leave them alone as long as they don't web where they bother me.

    I wonder if Tilly will regret this decision or negotiate a better deal with the spiders..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cikomyr View Post
    Its always better to have ratified peace treaties with the largest spiders in your basement.
    I would agree, except I have cats. They regard spiders as cat toys. I find a lot of dead ones.

    I haven't asked the spiders how they feel about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eee View Post
    I would agree, except I have cats. They regard spiders as cat toys. I find a lot of dead ones.

    I haven't asked the spiders how they feel about this.
    You need a standard Feline Exemption Clause. Its not like you control the true owner of the House. You and the spiders are merely renters.

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    Y'know, after Rich brings back a character that hasn't been seen in nigh on 13 years, I find it laughable that Jeph thinks he's playing "the long game" by doing a reference to a strip 13 days ago.

    Perspective is fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yana View Post
    Y'know, after Rich brings back a character that hasn't been seen in nigh on 13 years, I find it laughable that Jeph thinks he's playing "the long game" by doing a reference to a strip 13 days ago.

    Perspective is fun.
    Does he? I don't think anything in this strip implies that idea.
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    Sorry, I was referring to 3623, based on the comment and subtitles for it, not today's comic.

    Taffy is gender-fluid (I think that's the term, yes?) too if her pronoun preferences are anything to go by.
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    Huh, a nonbinary character.

    I think that might confirm she's sticking around. Don't think Jeph would use that on a throwaway character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yana View Post
    Taffy is gender-fluid (I think that's the term, yes?) too if her pronoun preferences are anything to go by.
    Hardly the only possibility. Off the top of my head, they might be agendered, or maybe they favour removing all gendered pronouns as a means to foster greater equality, regardless of what gender they actually are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf_c View Post
    Hardly the only possibility. Off the top of my head, they might be agendered, or maybe they favour removing all gendered pronouns as a means to foster greater equality, regardless of what gender they actually are.

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    I'm not exactly up on gender conventions, thank you for the explanation.

    My contempt for Taffy remains though.
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