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    S. Mookiei is an odd creature. You see, with their smaller skull sizes (due to much of the brain occupying other areas of the body) they are allowed to mature much longer in the womb while still being able to fit through the birth canal. This is helped by the capability of white magic to instantly heal from the verge of death, so damage to the mother/child during birth is almost never deadly. So, when a young Dominion Ape is born they appear more physically mature. White magic is also used to slow down the appearance of aging. Only the oldest specimens who have overexposed themselves, and by extension build up a resistance and gradual immunity, to white magic show advanced age.
    And then, there's always alteration magic.
    I'll bet every dispensable organ in my body that we will never see a Dominion Ape that is actually disabled (not crippled by wounds or necromancy) or one that, due to old age, is significantly impaired.

    (There may be a uglier reason here, but I'll go for magic.)

    However, I do think that the fact behind the apparent absence of children is that they undergo conditioning in Aberghast Cathedral in their early years. Early years probably meaning 1-13.
    The First Caste, as the Deegan brothers, who were at their family's estate when the Chosen attacked show, is of course not subjected to this.


    Also: Szark's father appeared, too, as well as "the Maestro". Both weren't exactly at the verge of death, though.

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    Now I've got that song stuck in my head. Though I will admit that Dominic neither looks nor acts like Jesus, I don't think he talks like a gentleman at all.
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    I actually think it was the other way around. Seeing how the different species seem capable of interbreeding and share some characteristics (especially the tolerance towards blows to the head), I still assume they have a shared ancestor.
    As I said before, that is a possibility; genome mapping will hopefully reveal the truth of the patter. Speaking of which...

    This latest strip has given us two breakthroughs. The first is a confirmation of my suspicions that both of the parents of the "Travoria" sisters are hybrids. The second is that magical affinity comes from a single allele that is incompletely dominant, its potential distribution (1:2:1) is shown in the "Travoria" offspring, and that this is the true distinction between the subspecies magus and carnacaputa. The dominant allele (M) and the recessive allele (m) can be mapped out on the following Punnett square:

    {table] |M|m
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    The specimen "Barnet" is mm, and so cannot use magic in any form, bearing all of the hallmarks of a purebred carnacaputa.* By contrast, her younger sister "Luna" is MM, and bears all of the hallmarks of a purebred magus. Finally, their sisters "Amelia" and "Mariella" are Mm, and show tendencies consistent with hybrids. Since the dominant allele corresponds universally to lower levels of aggression, this magic allele must have developed** on a gene partially responsible for hormone regulation.

    *S. mookiei carnacaputa is the first published name, so it takes precedence. (However, S. mookiei vulgaris can still be used as a synonym.)

    **Or was engineered; as we've established, we don't know the full extent of Mookie's tampering of the genome.
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    hang on, when did the suicide start, wasn't it years after she left?
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    hang on, when did the suicide start, wasn't it years after she left?
    Yes, but what she's apparently talking about is general sibling abuse, not anything coordinated.

    Also, she hates her sister for being "strong" enough to be unwilling or unable to remove herself from a horrible situation the way she did? Really? Under those circumstances, leaving is what you should do.


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    As a brief sketch, here's how I'd do it, anyhow:
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    "Oracle for Hire" through "Luna"
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    Dominic Deegan is a highly talented seer who has taken up life as a "fortune teller" in a small town because he has an intense dislike for humanity, having seen the true nature of far too many of his fellow Callanians to have any faith in them. However, a chance encounter with a visiting knight (Siegfried) revealed that he was in terrible danger. However, Siegfried refused to take heed, and Dominic took it upon himself to sneak into the manor to try and prevent the future that he saw.

    Within the manor, Dominic came upon Luna, the disfigured and depressed daughter of Madame Travoria that had been hidden from polite society and scorned by her sisters due to her deformity. Dominic befriends Luna and convinces her that they must save Siegfried from her mother's murderous plot. By capturing and scrying into the pasts of several of Madame Travoria's minions, the pair are able to thwart the assassination and reveal Madame Travoria's complicity in the plot.

    To the shock of all, Siegfried slays Madame Travoria without a second thought, revealing a brutal streak that taints an otherwise perfect facade of chivalrous virtues. None of the surviving conspirators claim to know who ultimately called for the assassination, but Siegfried arrests them all, and promises to find out who was behind it.


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    Due to Madame Travoria's role in the conspiracy against a member of the nobility, the Crown confiscates all Travoria land and wealth, leaving Luna, the only member of the Travoria Family still unmarried and unsupported, completely penniless. Dominic agrees to hire her as a secretary for his small business and quickly discovers that despite her depressive exterior, she is a talented sorceress in her own right.

    After months of getting to know each other, Dominic gets a letter from his younger brother, then living in a little town known as Barthis, asking for him to visit. Dominic dismisses the letter, but Luna, wanting to know more about his family and thinking that a change of scenery might do him some good, eventually convinces him to go. So the pair set out on the trip. In the course of their travels they are ambushed by a pair of highway men going by the names of "Stunt" and "Bumper." After Dominic is incapacitated, Luna is forced to overcome her self-loathing and act on her own, and manages to chase off the pair.

    Once in Barthis, they are told by Pam, the lay healer at the Church of Lunan who looks after Dominic's crippled brother, that Gregory vanished into the woods the other day and hasn't come back yet. After the local seer was unable to locate him (being far too weak to do more than do simple predictions and find missing housekeys), Dominic uses his own powers and sees that Gregory is lying unconscious in the lair of some monster! Dominic goes to Dex, the town's sheriff, for help, and while Dex tries to round up a posse, the town refuses to face the horrible monster Dominic describes. Nonetheless, Dex agrees to help out Dominic.

    While searching for Gregory, the party is set upon by Stunt and Bumper who, furious by the humiliation they suffered at Luna's hands, came back for revenge. Luna is taken out first by a thrown knife - the sudden injury panics her and she stumbles away, shrieking. Dex quickly takes out Stunt and Bumper while Dominic goes to get Luna back.

    He eventually finds her sobbing in a clearing - ashamed at having run, and disgusted by her cowardice when she had taken care of those two beforehand. Dominic consoles her, and is about to head back when he hears a sound in the brush. Gregory steps out and explains that he was taking a walk in the woods when a small man (Dirk) approached him and asked for his help in healing his friend - a wounded dryad. He followed Dirk to a cave where, try as he might, his White Magic could not heal the wounds on the dryad's body. He was going to head back towards town when they were attacked by a fiendish man of terrible powers - Timontious the Infernomancer - and that then Dirk transformed into a fearsome creature whose mere presence was enough to send Gregory into unconsciousness. Dominic nods, and says that there is always a risk when Seeing of misinterpreting what you see. When Gregory awoke, both Dirk and the dryad were gone, and Gregory was making his way back to town when he stumbled upon Dominic and Luna. Gregory heals Luna's minor wounds and the tree are about to head back to Dex when a terrible shriek and roar echoes through the forest.

    Running to investigate, they see a fallen and bloodied Dirk at the feet of Timontious as he reaches over to get the Dryad. The three spring into action, Luna, emboldened by her last failure, uses powerful magics to try and stop Timontious, but it only causes him to turn his attentions to Luna. Panicked, Luna is about to flee when she is sees Gregory standing ready to receive the Infernomancer's attack. Refusing to run when a cripple would not, the two try to hold back the Infernomancer while Dominic sneaks around to take Dirk and the Dryad to safety. In a moment of desperation, Gregory calls on powerful White Magic spell to temporarily banish the Infernomancer back to Hell before clutching his leg and falling over.

    Dominic explains that about Jacob and how, when they were teenagers, Jacob placed a necromantic hex of his own design on Gregory, crippling his leg and draining him of much of his life essence. Dominic confronted him, but the more powerful Jacob swatted him down. Dominic responded with a potent Seeing spell - See the Truth - which confronted Jacob with an unfocused yet complete impression of what the rest of Jacob's life would be life if he followed this path. As they were still in training, Dominic did not understand the full power of this spell, and the resulting revelation left Jacob slightly (more) unhinged. Laughing manically about his "destiny" Jacob then left the Deegan Household. A week later, when Miranda returned from her trip to find what had happened, she was astounded by the complexity of Jacob's hex and could not remove it. Attempts to find Jacob were thwarted by a potent ward - it seems that he had entered the protection of one of Callan's many secret "black arts" societies which sensibly warded all their members from the prying eyes of seers.

    Ultimately, Dominic & Co. revive Dirk, who tells them to seek out the Oracle of the Forest. The Oracle repairs the wounds suffered by Dirk and the Dryad, noting that they were difficult to heal because they were infected with the Curse of Wounding - a gift that the Demon of Wounds bestowed upon his most powerful Infernomancers.

    (The whole series of events of Stupid Hick Filler, Rachel, Hello Nurse! and Slaughterball are skipped entirely)


    Now we're at the "good part" of the series. Sketches for "Visions," "Ecstasy," and "Storm"

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    Upon getting back to Barthis, they meet up with Siegfried and his two new companions - Milov, a potent werewolf shaman and Ambassador to Callan from the Winter Archipelagos, and his lover, Jayden, a priestess of Luan who loves Milov despite being unable to marry him due to the constraints of the Code of the Moon. Milov received a vision from the Moon Goddess that a great and ancient evil would be unlocked in Barthis and called upon the Callanian Court for aide. Only Siegfried stepped forward to assist, on the condition that Milov would use his powers to try and discover who had ordered his assassination.

    After this, "Visions" runs pretty much as written after they are all in Barthis and have met Milov. Siegfried attempts to manhandle Vilrath after Dominic fingers him as a suspect due to having the anti-seer rune and Siegfried is hit with a powerful necromantic hex. While Milov and Jayden try to track down Vilrath, Dominic tries to use more powerful Seeing spells and, after being rebuffed by potent anti-seer spells, manages to get some fragmented images. By the time he puts this all together, the Chosen have struck and the town is gripped by the Suicide Curse.

    As the only two town members unaffected due to their training, Dominic recruits the hapless Red Shirt Seer to try and confront the Chosen. Red Shirt is promptly killed, but in the confusion, Dominic is able to disrupt the Suicide Curse. The Chosen are about to kill Dominic when Jayden and Milov show up - newly freed of the curse - but after a brief scuffle the Chosen take control of Jayden's mind and force her to incapacitate Milov. Then, they make her channel her Divine Powers in a foul ritual which taints her soul and grants them all tremendous power.

    Jacob then reveals himself, kicks ass, and leaves. He'll be slightly crazier and babble more about "his destiny" than in the comic.

    Having been unable to do more than watch, shocked and frightened, as the battle went on, the people of Barthis thank Dominic and Co. for their selfless actions and fete them as heroes. Red Shirt Seer is buried before the tree and Dominic suffers angst for having forced him to risk his life.

    At the end of the fete, Dominic is encouraged to take over Red Shirt Seer's old shop by the townsfolk - and he does. Jayden is tainted and must go perform cleansing rituals and meditation at Aberxast before she can use her divine powers again, but seeing that Gregory has a tremendous gift, she guides him through the ritual needed to cleanse Siegfried. Siegfried vows vengeance on Jacob, and leaves with Milov to escort Jayden to Aberxast.


    Phew! "Ecstasy" and "Storm" will needed to be re-written later. Some bullet points for "future" developments.
    • Siegfried's research indicates that Szark, Dominic's childhood friend, was behind the assassination. Dominic goes to Sin City to protect his friend from Siegfried's wrath, but is wrapped up in a convoluted plot involving Amaelia, similar but better planned than the actual one. Szark turns out to have been but a link in the chain, and Siegfried continues searching.
    • The Storm of Souls occurs pretty much as written. Dominic is chosen as the Champion of Balance by Klo Tark and, as the combat rages Barthas is destroyed (but it's people saved by Gregory, whom everyone had always treated as a worthless cripple, aside from Pam), Siegfried duels Jacob while Luna & Co. try to stop Hexia. In the end, Klo Tark is dead for real, Celesto has been banished to an alternate dimension, and Dominic has suffered some actual sacrifice, which might be an unhealable leg.
    • Battle for Barthis reveals Serk, a powerful businessman with the ear of the king. He has granted a title of nobility contingent on rebuilding Barthis - specifically a title that transforms formerly independent Barthis into his personal fief. Dominic & Co. try to raise the money to repair the town on their own, but are constantly thwarted by shady dealings and criminal sabotage. In the end, Serk is defeated, thanks to the apprehension and implication of his lieutenant "Urban Eddie" in the sabotage. Dominic gets a sense that Serk might have had something to do with the Assassination Plot, but Siegfried is restrained from killing Serk by his fellow Knights. Serk escapes, bloodied but free.
    You know what? If you feel like it, write up a script for one or two (Full size) pages and i'll draw them. I need to practice my comic-crafting anyway.

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    Today's comic might have been more touching if I didn't see this every time I look at the last panel... ...but then again, probably not.

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    So... as far as pop psych analysis goes, this is a fair description of general "sibling issues." Regardless how Luna actually acted, Travoria can have interpreted Luna being trapped in an abusive relationship as "strength" since Travoria has strong Abandonment Issues. Now, when Luna shows up to explain how Barnet was the strong one (?), they can get that Sisterly Reconciliation on and Travoria will get a nice stay and the Aberxast Hot Springs Resort.

    Still doesn't explain the sociopathery, and we're not going to see that explanation any time soon.

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    By the way, this is a perfect set-up for the self-fulfilling prophecy. Travoria will reform, realize that Celesto is a threat to the First Caste, and try to kill him. Celesto will 'splode her, and Dominic will realize it is all his fault.

    This will never, in a million years, happen in this strip.


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    As I said before, that is a possibility; genome mapping will hopefully reveal the truth of the patter. Speaking of which...

    This latest strip has given us two breakthroughs. The first is a confirmation of my suspicions that both of the parents of the "Travoria" sisters are hybrids. The second is that magical affinity comes from a single allele that is incompletely dominant, its potential distribution (1:2:1) is shown in the "Travoria" offspring, and that this is the true distinction between the subspecies magus and carnacaputa. The dominant allele (M) and the recessive allele (m) can be mapped out on the following Punnett square:

    {table] |M|m
    M|MM|Mm
    m|Mm|mm[/table]

    The specimen "Barnet" is mm, and so cannot use magic in any form, bearing all of the hallmarks of a purebred carnacaputa.* By contrast, her younger sister "Luna" is MM, and bears all of the hallmarks of a purebred magus. Finally, their sisters "Amelia" and "Mariella" are Mm, and show tendencies consistent with hybrids. Since the dominant allele corresponds universally to lower levels of aggression, this magic allele must have developed** on a gene partially responsible for hormone regulation.
    I agree with this thesis by reason of it being awesome.

    But now I'm left wondering about the status of "Gregory" and "Jacob", who, unlike "Luna" and their brother "Dominic", can only cast one sort of spells, much like "Amelia".
    "Jacob" has shown enough magical aptitude and talent as a researcher, so he is probably MM.
    "Gregory", on the other hand , seems to be limited to his White Magic, unable to control it and incapable of comprehending even basic magic formulae like 5x2=Arcana.

    I also don't know what exactly this means for my theory about the planes of existence. I may have to abandon it. However, it may be that the magus allele simply suppresses the links to the planes. In this case, however, it wouldn't be M allowing magic, it would be m disabling it.
    (This is backed by infernomancy, since in this case, the links to the plane of Hell are acquired, not inborn.)
    It of course would have to be evaluated to which extent the links are suppressed. And whether this theory makes any sense in the first place or not.

    (EDIT: I was just trawling the archives looking for slay material when I found this interesting strip.)

    *S. mookiei carnacaputa is the first published name, so it takes precedence. (However, S. mookiei vulgaris can still be used as a synonym.)
    Eh, I didn't intend to replace the term carnacaputa, S. mookiei vulgaris is just a name I use for both carnacaputa and tunicarufus, since their relation isn't fully revealed yet.

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    So... as far as pop psych analysis goes, this is a fair description of general "sibling issues." Regardless how Luna actually acted, Travoria can have interpreted Luna being trapped in an abusive relationship as "strength" since Travoria has strong Abandonment Issues.
    Ah, but in Dominion, whenever a character enters melodrama mode, whatever he or she says is the truth, and nothing but the truth.
    Therefore, Luna is the strong one here, no matter what we might think.

    (Unless, of course, Luna does the same, in which case both are strong because they didn't fall to evil (killing people for money be damned), something I have no doubt Dominic will explain with a warm smile on his face.)

    Now, when Luna shows up to explain how Barnet was the strong one (?), they can get that Sisterly Reconciliation on and Travoria will get a nice stay and the Aberxast Hot Springs Resort.
    I guess it will more or less happen this way.
    Also, I will have a laughing fit if Luna tells her the reason for her newfound strength after we had this wonderful splash page.

    Finally, I have to note that to me, Dominic appears like someone who is trying to look concerned but is simply bored and doesn't really listen.
    In the last panel, he also seems to be slightly annoyed as he fully realizes that he can't "save" Barnet now that her lower half has disappeared.
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    Oh, I get it now! She's motivated entirely by spite and hatred in its purest form! That's not evil at all!

    Everyone's already commented enough on the "I was too weak to go with my womanly imperative and stay in an abusive relationship" spiel. I've nothing more to add.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mewtarthio View Post
    Oh, I get it now! She's motivated entirely by spite and hatred in its purest form! That's not evil at all!

    Everyone's already commented enough on the "I was too weak to go with my womanly imperative and stay in an abusive relationship" spiel. I've nothing more to add.
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    Remember kids, Wrath is one of the Cardinal Virtues of the Luanian Church. Lord Dominius Himself endorsed this most virtuous of paths.
    You know, I didn't really forget about that strip, but I've never really thought about it. That means that Alsetio's assistant and Zelda are both legally empowered to kill Barnet, and there's not a damn thing Dominic can do about it!

    Besides convincing them that she's not evil anymore and they should trust her. Or, horror upon horrors, simply hiding her himself and getting her a new identity.
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    You know, I didn't really forget about that strip, but I've never really thought about it.
    You know, neither did Mookie.
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    http://www.dominic-deegan.com/view.php?date=2005-02-26
    Who is this one in the 3rd panel?

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    That's Jayden, I belive. She's mentioned to be Luna's childhood friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryuan View Post
    Jayden.

    Also, $5 on Luna piping in tomorrow about how she wasn't strong.

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    Im also pretty sure it's Jayden. You can tell this because the three most prominent characteristics she has are:
    1. she has a Luanian amulet.
    2. she's nice.
    3. she's Luna's only friend.

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    You know, I didn't really forget about that strip, but I've never really thought about it. That means that Alsetio's assistant and Zelda are both legally empowered to kill Barnet, and there's not a damn thing Dominic can do about it!
    Man, how I hope this happens.

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    I take this bet, as I don't think Dominic will leave Barnet's mindscape before Mookie could draw another ass shot of her, which will require her to be fixed in the following days. Also, I'm sure there are a few tears left to shed.
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    Man, how I hope this happens.
    Sadly, puny laws of Callan are nothing compared to Lord Dominus' convenience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M0rt View Post
    Sadly, puny laws of Callan are nothing compared to Lord Dominus' convenience.
    Bah. They're all evil anyway. Well, not all of them are evil. Laws like "be wary around areas that have been subjected to large amounts of necromantic and demonic magic" are evil, but laws like "you are allowed to inflict Fourth Casters with large amounts of psychological torture" are a-okay.
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    By the way, this is a perfect set-up for the self-fulfilling prophecy. Travoria will reform, realize that Celesto is a threat to the First Caste, and try to kill him. Celesto will 'splode her, and Dominic will realize it is all his fault.

    This will never, in a million years, happen in this strip.
    It's funny because I mentioned that as the ideal resolution to this tomfoolery when the soul-falling-filler was still going on.

    <_<

    Also, yes. Luna is popping up tomorrow to sob like a bitch and talk about how she tried to kill herself. Twice. But since she had Dominic, and he helped her through it. And how strong OH is to still be around even though she never had anybody, but now Luna will be there for her.

    Yes, OH will be Nimmel Redux. Watch out.

    Also, ONE MORE THING. Barnet said she bought all her crazy gear off of the Blinder lady (Obviously they aren't THAT hard to find) during the loltorture. But now she suddenly had all of her magic trinkets back at the Travoria estates? wha?

    Also, have we ever received ANY indication of the characters' ages in DD? Beyond that Gregory is somewhere above 8?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockwork_Seal View Post
    Also, have we ever received ANY indication of the characters' ages in DD? Beyond that Gregory is somewhere above 8?
    Sure, we do! Observe:

    Croona Travoria: Really, really old. So old that she's now got nothing left to cling to save bitterness as the sweet, sweet illusion that she still looks beautiful.

    Barnet: A lot younger than Croona.

    Mariella: Somewhat younger than Barnet.

    Amelia: Somewhere in between Mariella and Barnet.

    Luna: Whatever Dominus tells her she is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oracle_Hunter View Post
    Remember kids, Wrath is one of the Cardinal Virtues of the Luanian Church. Lord Dominius Himself endorsed this most virtuous of paths.

    Attn: Evolutionary Deeganologists
    How do you explain Spark? He is one of two talking animals in the Deeganverse, and yet nobody is surprised that he talks. This implies some sort of co-evolutionary existence, and yet also a possible Extinction Event. Perhaps they were out-competed as companion animals by the Fifth Caste?

    FAKE EDIT:
    Okay, two talking animals and one talking animal species.
    I would theorize that this is due to the much larger mindsoulscapes living creatures in Dominon have. It's possible that the mindsoulscape overlaps the gray matter of a creature's brain. The constant exposure to powerful psymagic enhances development of all higher levels of the brain, but only to a certain extent. Creatures with already advanced brains become even more intelligent (like the Fire Apes) and creatures of lesser intelligence are enhanced to the point of almost human level intelligence. The Dominion Ape is naturally hampered because (as was stated earlier) many important aspects of the brain have moved to other regions of the body and therefore is restricted to levels on intelligence an average human may achieve.

    There is still the problem of how an animal could vocalize a human language. There are two plausible ways animals can speak in a way humans understand:

    1. The animal is not actually speaking, but instead vocalizing in its own language while simultaneously projecting the meaning of the sounds into the mindsoulscape of listeners.

    2. Only some creatures have developed the capability for speech. These will most likely be animals that live in large groups and therefore have a greater need for complex communication. Perhaps domestic cats like Spark are the descendants of some sort of Pygmy Lion Pride instead of the solitary desert cats that ours are descended from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayngfet View Post
    I second this nomination!
    The trouble is, I can't really think of any good anthems for the other castes. For the Fifth Caste, I thought about "Worthless," just for the title, but on closer examination it doesn't fit them at all.* Do they even have music for people who have no value whatsoever?

    *The song is about every man's fear that, regardless of whatever they may accomplish in life, they will die in obscurity, alone, unmourned, and unloved.** The Fifth Caste have neither past nor future, and so they do not have fears. Nor accomplishments, for that matter.
    **Why, yes, this is a kid's movie. Why do you ask?
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    Do they even have music for people who have no value whatsoever?
    My Chemical Romance.

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    He's a reeeeeeal nowhere man, sitting in his nowhere land, making all his nowhere plans for noooobody.
    a secret to everybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElfLad View Post
    He's a reeeeeeal nowhere man, sitting in his nowhere land, making all his nowhere plans for noooobody.
    Doesn't have a point of view,
    Knows not where he's going to.
    Isn't he a bit like you
    And me?


    Yes! It's perfect! Two down, three to go!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mewtarthio View Post
    Doesn't have a point of view,
    Knows not where he's going to.
    Isn't he a bit like you
    And me?


    Yes! It's perfect! Two down, three to go!
    So...

    1st Caste
    Mac Davis - Hard to Be Humble

    2nd Caste
    Weird Al - Close But No Cigar

    3rd Caste
    The Killers - When You Were Young (or maybe Joan Jett - Victim of Cicumstance)

    4th Caste
    Michael Jackson - Bad

    5th Caste
    The Beatles - Nowhere Man

    edit: You've killed lots of people and tried to kill me, but you remind me of MY GIRLFRIEND!
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    Ugh this is bad, really really really bad.
    If this doesn't cement the idea of a caste system, nothing does.
    I mean really..."Yeah I know you stabbed a whole lot of people for money, but deep down you're just a hurt little girl that needs patience and understanding."

    I'm still hoping Celesto kills Barnet, thus removing any further stupid she might cause.

    Heck I'm still voting that he kills Dom.


    Edit: almost missed the "Yes, Luna is strong, but she needed help....from me...like you do..there is no weakness in asking help from Lord Dominus. He is forgiving and merciful."
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    You killed dozens of people, Luna tried to commit suicide.... same thing, really.
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