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2017-10-17, 03:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Contemplative and broken interpretations
Spells per Day/Spells Known: A contemplative who was previously a spellcaster continues to gain access to more powerful divine magic while following the contemplative path. Thus, when a new contemplative level is gained, the character gains new spells per day (and spells known, if applicable) as if she had also gained a level in the spellcasting class she belonged to before she added the prestige class. She does not, however, gain any other benefit a character of that class would have gained (improved chance of controlling or rebuking undead, more frequent remove disease, and so on). This essentially means that she adds the level of contemplative to the level of whatever other spellcasting class the character has, then determines spells per day accordingly.
If a character had more than one divine spellcasting class before she became a contemplative, the player must decide which class to assign each level of contemplative for the purpose of determining divine spells per day and spells known. If the contemplative did not previously belong to a divine spellcasting class, she gains the ability to cast divine spells exactly as a cleric of her patron deity. Her spell progression is the same as that of a cleric.
They never says that you do not apply the bonus to your previous spellcasting class if it is not divine and it is not written "as she had also gained a level in the divine spellcasting class she belonged to before she added the prestige class" but rather "as she had also gained a level in the spellcasting class she belonged to before she added the prestige class" and then there is nothing in the complete text that says that you can not add that casting level to a non divine class.
Then it says that if the character had no levels in a divine spellcasting class then the character gains "the ability to cast divine spells exactly as a cleric of her patron deity. Her spell progression is the same as that of a cleric"
And it is written nowhere that is replace the spellcasting advancement.
Now you can say that there is a table saying otherwise but you know that the text trumps the table.
What is sure is that if you try to interpret that way this text your gm will definitively throw books at you and will never accept your character.Last edited by noob; 2017-10-17 at 03:08 PM.
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2017-10-17, 05:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Contemplative and broken interpretations
Last edited by AsteriskAmp; 2017-10-17 at 05:42 PM.
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2017-10-17, 07:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Contemplative and broken interpretations
It's kind of weird that it requires divine spellcasting but has a line for non-divine spellcasters.
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2017-10-17, 08:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Contemplative and broken interpretations
Yes, this works. The key is to find a friendly Cleric who is willing to cast imbue with spell ability on you so that you can cast divine spells (the other stuff is pretty trivial for a 10th level Wizard). You don't even have to worry about the issue of what happens if you lose prerequisites -- once you become a Contemplative, you get enough Cleric casting to meet the requirements.
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2017-10-17, 08:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Contemplative and broken interpretations
I think a Wizard with Southern Magician might also work to get in, and then get Cleric casting in addition to the +1 level of Wizard casting.
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2017-10-17, 08:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Contemplative and broken interpretations
Rangers and Druids also cast Divine spells
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