Warframe In The Playground - The Grustrag 03

[NEO|Phyte]

It's the fractures, if you look at your navigation console information on the event it talks about doubled rewards in the Vallis.

[Brother Oni]

It's the fractures, if you look at your navigation console information on the event it talks about doubled rewards in the Vallis.

Interesting. Given that the Thermia event is rumoured to repeat like the Ghouls event, I wonder if it would bring the doubled rewards with it every time?

Anybody seen the new Nightwave cutscene?

Spoiler: Wolf Of Saturn 6

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Interesting lore bits suggesting that the Corpus are involved, rather than the Wolf being purely a Grineer thing.

[thatSeniorGuy]

Spoiler: WoS6

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I think the Warden is a Grineer, and he chose to hide on Jupiter (maybe he made a deal with Alad?).

[sihnfahl]

Spoiler: WoS6

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I think the Warden is a Grineer, and he chose to hide on Jupiter (maybe he made a deal with Alad?).

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Entirely possible. SS is a Grineer installation, after all. But, as we know, war makes for some strange bedfellows (like Tenno aiding and killing both sides). Wolf is a threat to both... so it would behoove them to cooperate on this point. So it not necessarily be with Alad; just the Corpus Board to stop losses.

[NEO|Phyte]

Exploiter orb fight has gone live, time to get ye Hildryn parts.

[Brother Oni]

Exploiter orb fight has gone live, time to get ye Hildryn parts.

Especially since the resource doubler is still in effect, so she drops 2 Lazulite Toroids, worth 12k Vox Solaris standing each.

Fight wise, she's easier than Profit Taker - I've fought Exploiter twice solo and won both times (40-something minutes for the first fight, 31 minutes second time and should get the time down further once I optimise my build even more). Some clanmates report good experiences with Loki, so may give that a try too.

On Prime Time last night, DE Rebecca and DE Megan did Exploiter in 12.something minutes, so a properly tooled up squad should get the fight down to at least half that.

[sihnfahl]

Fight wise, she's easier than Profit Taker - I've fought Exploiter twice solo and won both times (40-something minutes for the first fight, 31 minutes second time and should get the time down further once I optimise my build even more). Some clanmates report good experiences with Loki, so may give that a try too..

It's not all that hard of a fight, either. Just gimmicky.

[Drascin]

It's not all that hard of a fight, either. Just gimmicky.

It's a well designed fight. Easily the best boss fight Warframe has by a significant margin. The gimmick allows people to participate, it doesn't incentivize the party to just be Chroma/Chroma/Chroma/X like the other bosses, the phases are largely well telegraphed, the flavor is neat, and it's actually doable solo for people who aren't into recruitment chat.

[Brother Oni]

I thought this might amuse some people:

Spoiler: Tales from the Relay

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I remember when I first saw her.

She pulled me out of that cell, dead wardens lying around the room and I thought 'I'm dead', then the boss told me to follow her, she's a friend and you could have knocked me down with an empty shell casing.

Getting me out of that execution cell would have been more than enough, but then she went and got Lefty and Righty back for me and I would have followed her into the Void.


Of course it would have never worked between us - she was way, way out of my league, but I was happy enough to be close to her when she came to see the boss and me once a week; then it was just the two of us, heading out to faraway locations, meeting interesting people and killing them then nicking all their stuff.

Over time, she just became more and more beautiful until that one week when she stopped coming. 'No big deal' I thought, "she'll be back next week", but then that week became months, months became a year and I'd realised I'd missed my chance.


Until today.


She came back to see us, the first time in years. She was even more beautiful than I remembered, a resplendent goddess of colour, power and grace, both majestic and terrifying in equal measure.

We even went on a contract together like old times and it was as if we had never been apart...

Wait, we're extracting? I thought we had longer! What if she doesn't come back again?! I gotta say something... anything! Tell her what she means to me, how I feel about her, tell her she is my one and only and she has but to say the word and I will be hers forever...

She's turning out the door, crap, I gotta say something! Anything! Just not those two words-


"Clem! Grakata!"

DAMMIT.

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A silly little story that popped into my head, inspired by the Krieg Borderlands 2 trailer and this week's Nightwave mission.

[OutOfThyme]

Hey everyone! I've been playing Warframe over the past few months, and I saw that there's a thread here.

I'll chime in on the Exploiter Orb fight: It's fun, in a way that most fights in Warframe aren't. I think that the gimmicks across both phases of the fight make you feel like you're doing something besides point gun and click. I read on Reddit that someone mentioned the cutscene thing in the second phase is probably the first time we actually feel like our Warframes are physically powerful, and I fully agree.

Also, all of those gem/fish drops are absolutely insane. I've kind of been busy raising my Quills rep/working on Cetus stuff, but I've got enough gems to throw at Smokefinger to max out my rep entirely. And fish drops mean that I really don't have to go hunting rare fish for stuff. It's absurdly awesome drops.

Edit: I've also been doing my Exploiter Orb runs on Nezha, with surprising success. If you use Warding Halo while you're the target of her turret, you can get >10k on your WH, which means 90% DR for the entire fight, and being able to survive the explosion at the end. I've also been using his 4 to clear up the babby raknoids in the first phase, with some of his 2 thrown in there (pun intended).

[Rynjin]

Been thinking about playing again for a bit. How hard is Baruuk and/or Hildryn to get?

The main reason I stopped playing is because I got bored of using the same Frame all the time but it took forever to get any new ones. My experience with building faction rep is that it's excruciatingly timelocked on how much you can get in a day, but maybe Vox Solaris is different.

[OutOfThyme]

The problem with Vox Solaris standing is that you can only get to the 2nd rank without having Solaris United maxed out. You can only get the drops required for the later ranks from the Profit-Taker heists, which is kind of frustrating. Getting Baruuk or Hildryn's blueprints requires the 3rd rank of Vox Solaris.

The good news is that Exploiter Orb drops 2 of the new Lazulite Toroids means that you get the equivalent of 24k standing for each run, and those are required to get the blueprints for Hildryn's parts.

The one good thing I'll say about factions like the Quills and Vox Solaris is how you can stock up on the items you need to turn in for standing. That's really helpful, since I can do Teralyst/Tridolon capture runs when I have the time for it, and all I have to do is turn in my items once a day, and it's all done.

[Brother Oni]

I'd like to re-iterate the RNG annoyingness of getting to rank 2 and 3 of Vox Solaris; that said, the second heist can be done in around 2 minutes if you go loaded for bear, so it's not too bad.

Once you get to rank 3, you can start trading in Vox Solaris standing to buy the drops you need, which really improves the experience.

Been thinking about playing again for a bit. How hard is Baruuk and/or Hildryn to get?

Once you get to rank 3 with Vox Solaris, a single Exploiter run (at the moment) will let you buy all the blueprints for Barruk (20k standing total).
Getting the materials to build him is a bit trickier - you can either do a dedicated farming run for toroids or look in caves. The hesperon can be found very easily in the red veins near the Temple of Profit.

Hildryn is trickier as her parts drop from the Exploiter battle. I lucked out with the RNG and only took 4 attempts to get all three components, which netted me all the Lazulite Toroids I needed to build her in the process.

However you do it though, now is the best time to farm Baruuk and Hildryn due to the double drops on Vallis from the event.

As OutOfThyme said though, Vox Solaris ranks are easy to get since you can stockpile the items and trade them in over the week when you're recovering from the weekend burn out.

Solaris United is also similar in that you can stockpile tradable items (debt tokens, gems and fish) if you don't want to run bounties or do Conservation.

My experience with building faction rep is that it's excruciatingly timelocked on how much you can get in a day, but maybe Vox Solaris is different.

Unfortunately, the only way to raise your daily standing cap is to raise your MR.

The good news is that Exploiter Orb drops 2 of the new Lazulite Toroids means that you get the equivalent of 24k standing for each run, and those are required to get the blueprints for Hildryn's parts.

The double Toroid drop is most likely due only to the event at the moment, so if you can farm Exploiter, now is a good time to do so.

That said, there's an issue with Vallis matchmaking, which is both good and bad: Bad in that you'll probably have to solo her for now (DE are fixing the issues at the moment), good in that the event has been extended a week while they fix the issues.

Solo-ing Exploiter is doable - the fastest time I've seen is 12 minutes and my personal best is ~25.

With the event extension, there is now the possibility of the event overlapping with the double drops Anniversary event next weekend, so 4x drops on Vallis (before Smeeta and boosters) and hammering Exploiter means you'll probably never have to farm Vox Solaris standing again.

[sihnfahl]

Is it me, or are they running out of ideas for the Nightwave dailies?

Really ... mark 5 resources / mods?

[Brother Oni]

Is it me, or are they running out of ideas for the Nightwave dailies?

Really ... mark 5 resources / mods?

There's a hypothesis that the Nightwave dailies are intended as a way to introduce game mechanics to new players.

For example, the 'kill 150 enemies with X damage' challenge is to encourage them to ask 'how do I get X damage on my weapons?' and lead them down the rabbit hole of damage and armour types.
The 'perform 1 emote' challenge teaches them about emotes, the 'perform 150 bullet jumps' about parkour, etc.

[Leon]

Hopefully then they can instruct the noobs to not to Hit Blipping Air supply towers as soon as they spawn

[sleepy hedgehog]

Or do 5 corpus missions where no one breaks the glass windows.

[Brother Oni]

Hopefully then they can instruct the noobs to not to Hit Blipping Air supply towers as soon as they spawn

Gasping for air: 'Complete a survival mission without hitting 100% life support'.

Or do 5 corpus missions where no one breaks the glass windows.

It's a daily, not an elite.

That said: When I'm cleaning winders 'Complete 5 missions on the Corpus Ship tileset without breaking a window'.

[Narkis]

There's a hypothesis that the Nightwave dailies are intended as a way to introduce game mechanics to new players.

For example, the 'kill 150 enemies with X damage' challenge is to encourage them to ask 'how do I get X damage on my weapons?' and lead them down the rabbit hole of damage and armour types.
The 'perform 1 emote' challenge teaches them about emotes, the 'perform 150 bullet jumps' about parkour, etc.

Case in point: I started playing yesterday, and seeing the daily quests lead me to discovering emotes, waypoints and viral damage. Thank god for google search and the wiki, the in-game is perhaps the worst I've ever seen.

[thatSeniorGuy]

Case in point: I started playing yesterday, and seeing the daily quests lead me to discovering emotes, waypoints and viral damage.

Likewise, I tried out conservation for the first time due to the challenge, and actually enjoyed myself. Also got Endurance Drift doing the Halls of Ascendance challenge, which I otherwise wouldn't have bothered getting.

Thank god for google search and the wiki, the in-game is perhaps the worst I've ever seen.

Amen to that.

[Toastkart]

Been thinking of updating my amp. I really like the prism and brace I use, but have been wanting to replace the klebrik with either shraksun or dissic. Any thoughts?

Shraksun seems to have better energy economy, the guaranteed impact proc, and decent crit chance going for it, at the cost of relatively short range.

The dissic has a higher status chance and a larger explosion radius, but costs 50 energy per shot, which means I'd only get two shots from full charge.

[Brother Oni]

Case in point: I started playing yesterday, and seeing the daily quests lead me to discovering emotes, waypoints and viral damage. Thank god for google search and the wiki, the in-game is perhaps the worst I've ever seen.

Yeah, the only thing I've seen more obtuse is Eve Online. That said, if you get stuck on something, feel free to ask us here or in-game - there's a list of WF players and their platform on the first post of this thread.

Welcome to the fight, Tenno.

Been thinking of updating my amp. I really like the prism and brace I use, but have been wanting to replace the klebrik with either shraksun or dissic. Any thoughts?

Are you planning to hunt Eidolons with it? If so, then the current meta is the Shraksun scaffold due to the damage dealt and number of hits per shot.

If you're not hunting Eidolons with it, then the scaffold doesn't really matter as you'll be using the primary fire of your brace more, so go with whichever scaffold first your playstyle more.

Regardless of whether you go Dissic or Shraksun, look into the Virtuos Fury arcane as both scaffolds work well with it (the Dissic has the highest status chance of all scaffolds, while the Shraksun has a guaranteed Impact proc).

[Cozzer]

Hi, guys! Yesterday I donwloaded the client and completed the two first, extremely easy, tutorial missions. I don't dedicate much time to gaming, so I'm just going to tackle things at my own pace, without reading too many informations before I need them (except for how not to spend the starting Platinum, that seems important ).

This game seems quite fun for a "I have half an hour and nothing to do, I'll log in, do a couple missions and log off" approach. I just unlocked the Mod system, which seems like the core of the game, so next time I'll try to figure that out and go on with the easy introductory missions.

[Brother Oni]

This game seems quite fun for a "I have half an hour and nothing to do, I'll log in, do a couple missions and log off" approach.

You fool! That's how the developers get you hooked! It's too late for me, but you can still get out! Run! Run while you can!

More seriously, do take Warframe at your own pace. The game doesn't hold your hand like other MMOs, so set your own goals, enjoy discovering new things for yourself and take the time to look at the (very pretty) scenery.

I just unlocked the Mod system, which seems like the core of the game, so next time I'll try to figure that out and go on with the easy introductory missions.

As mentioned to Narkis, don't feel afraid to ask questions, either in here or in-game.

Welcome to the fight, Tenno.

[Toastkart]

Or do 5 corpus missions where no one breaks the glass windows.

The one that gets me the most is sabotage missions where after you put the fuel cell in the coolant tank, someone else goes and puts a cooling cell in the reactor. That step is already complete, but doing so overrides it.

Are you planning to hunt Eidolons with it? If so, then the current meta is the Shraksun scaffold due to the damage dealt and number of hits per shot.

If you're not hunting Eidolons with it, then the scaffold doesn't really matter as you'll be using the primary fire of your brace more, so go with whichever scaffold first your playstyle more.

Regardless of whether you go Dissic or Shraksun, look into the Virtuos Fury arcane as both scaffolds work well with it (the Dissic has the highest status chance of all scaffolds, while the Shraksun has a guaranteed Impact proc).

That's kinda the rub, there. I do occasionally hunt eidolons, but so far the issue for me is not taking down its shield. The issue is my best damage dealing weapon for it is my vectis prime tuned to radiation. Just last night I was dealing 90% of the damage and kept running out of ammo because the other people in the squad were trash leechers trying to ride on a chroma's coattails. I was oberon.

[Brother Oni]

The one that gets me the most is sabotage missions where after you put the fuel cell in the coolant tank, someone else goes and puts a cooling cell in the reactor. That step is already complete, but doing so overrides it.

Complete a Corpus Reactor Sabotage mission with a Freezing or Magnetising environmental hazard.

Yuk.

That's kinda the rub, there. I do occasionally hunt eidolons, but so far the issue for me is not taking down its shield. The issue is my best damage dealing weapon for it is my vectis prime tuned to radiation. Just last night I was dealing 90% of the damage and kept running out of ammo because the other people in the squad were trash leechers trying to ride on a chroma's coattails. I was oberon.

The alternative is to make both amps and use the Shraksun one whenever you're Eidolon hunting.

With regard to your hunting issues, I would suggest Carrier with Ammo Case, but its survivability isn't great on Eidolon hunts.

To be honest, if I spot people trying to leech that badly in an Eidolon hunt, I would just leave squad and either solo it or abort the bounty.

[mangosta71]

With regard to your hunting issues, I would suggest Carrier with Ammo Case, but its survivability isn't great on Eidolon hunts.

Even if can manage to keep your Carrier alive, Ammo Case can't convert what doesn't drop. Back in the early days, before everyone knew the meta and had Rivens, running out of ammo on Eidolons was a pretty common thing because you're not getting any drops.

[Narkis]

Yeah, the only thing I've seen more obtuse is Eve Online. That said, if you get stuck on something, feel free to ask us here or in-game - there's a list of WF players and their platform on the first post of this thread.

Welcome to the fight, Tenno.

I actually found Eve Online to be more intuitive. The tutorial there was much more comprehensive, at the very least.

As for questions, I do have a few that I couldn't find the answer to:

Is there anything worth spending credits on the market?

Is there a way to get platinum without spending money?

Is it better to transmute mods or sell them for endo?

I used the promo codes in the OP. Some of them didn't work (I wanted that free sword dammit) but what did those that work actually do? I can't find anything new in my inventory, nor is there some unread mail to claim the items.

I acquired two relics from the Earth excavation missions. Later that same mission turned into a void mission, so I went to open my relics. The missions started fine, if a little tougher due to the corrupted enemies, but soon proved impossible: The corrupted enemies didn't drop a single power core, so I couldn't finish even one excavation, and my weapons started doing less and less damage bottoming out at ~4 damage per shot, where I could barely scratch the swarm. I obviously failed and didn't get anything other than an open relic, but what was I doing wrong?

[Recaiden]

Credits can get you

• The blueprints for many weapons and warframes, which let you craft them using the Foundry. This is the main way to get new gear.
• The Keys that let you access the Derelict Zone.
• Various things needed for pets.
• Ciphers, gear to bypass the hacking minigame if you don't like it or are short on time

Platinum? Once you're Mastery 2 or higher, you can trade in-game items with other players who did spend money on platinum. Mostly mods and prime parts. You will also get discount coupons for platinum once in a while.

Mods? Sell them for endo, (until you're very far in the game).

Power carriers should still drop power cores after becoming corrupted.
It might just be that the enemies were too difficult for you at the moment. If there are too many corrupted enemies in play, normal enemies won't spawn until they're killed off. I also believe power carriers won't spawn if the excavators have all been destroyed.

[sleepy hedgehog]

Is there anything worth spending credits on the market?

From the credit market, eventually you will want all of the weapon blueprints.

Is there a way to get platinum without spending money?

The only 2 ways to get platinum is to buy it, or trade with other players for it.

Is it better to transmute mods or sell them for endo?

Getting endo is more important.
Though, early, it's not that bad to transmute a little bit.
At least until you stop getting duplicates.

I acquired two relics from the Earth excavation missions. Later that same mission turned into a void mission, so I went to open my relics. The missions started fine, if a little tougher due to the corrupted enemies, but soon proved impossible: The corrupted enemies didn't drop a single power core, so I couldn't finish even one excavation, and my weapons started doing less and less damage bottoming out at ~4 damage per shot, where I could barely scratch the swarm. I obviously failed and didn't get anything other than an open relic, but what was I doing wrong?

Yeah that just kinda happens sometimes, especially when you are playing solo.
I think it has something to do with enemies spawning and not able to get to you.
And if all of them get stuck, then no new ones spawn.


Also, you didn't ask, but your starting platinum should only go towards weapon and frame slots.