Magic The Gathering Thread XXIII: Modern is Dead, Long Live Modern

[Emmerlaus]

If you're worried about people doing something on your turn, just play Counterspell. They usually aren't trying to do more than one thing you need to worry about.

If I had to change that card, I probably would have to put Veldalken Orrery instead. I would probably lend her the only copy I have, that card is so high in price lol

Otherwise, maybe Cauldron of Soul against boardwipe. Creatures would come back on the field untapped too right?

[LansXero]

ghostway or teferi's instant work well against boardwipe. Or manaleak, most of the time :D

you could also build a commander version of hatebears.

Or Hokkori with trinisphere and orb of winter, thats always *fun*

[Emmerlaus]

ghostway or teferi's instant work well against boardwipe. Or manaleak, most of the time :D

you could also build a commander version of hatebears.

Or Hokkori with trinisphere and orb of winter, thats always *fun*

I build her a pillowfort deck involving Hanna, Ship Navigator. Enchantement and artifact are more welcome for this strategy then instants and sorceries. That's why I think enchantement and artifact have a better synergy then those.

[Ninjaman]

I build her a pillowfort deck involving Hanna, Ship Navigator. Enchantement and artifact are more welcome for this strategy then instants and sorceries. That's why I think enchantement and artifact have a better synergy then those.

Can you share the list? Then it would be easier for us to make suggestions.

[Emmerlaus]

Meh, The deck i a Persistent Petitionner deck... with Hanna, Ship's Navigator as the commander. You know, the idea to mill yourself, bring back important cards from your graveyard thanks to the commander. Not the best commander for a Persitent Petitionner deck but the white color give you Rememberance, which is awesome in this deck. But that's also why I prefer enchantement and artifacts over instant and sorceries lol

tgva8889 Had a AWESOME idea so I decided to copy it... Namely, putting on a stack a lot of creatures and putting a selected number of them, AT RANDOM, into the deck at the beginning of the game. It makes the game more randomnize with drawing cards you werent expecting.

The only idea I came so far is a Doran, the Siege Tower EDH deck. Picking a stack of big toughness creature with different strategy aspect (Lifegain, aggro or Infect strategy) and applying tgva8889's idea to it. I just need a list of creatures to put on the stack for it.

[Techwarrior]

On a semi related note...
Anyone else super excited to build Feather as a Commander?

[Emmerlaus]

On a semi related note...
Anyone else super excited to build Feather as a Commander?

She does bring something new to the table but I prefer my Firesong and Sunspeaker deck for such color combination. I don’t need another deck with Boros colors anyway.

[Tvtyrant]

On a semi related note...
Anyone else super excited to build Feather as a Commander?

Oh yes. There are a bunch of cruddy 1 mana cantrips that become draw 2 with her, which gets better with grapeshot. Being able to storm multiple turns in a row is very cool.

[Ninjaman]

On a semi related note...
Anyone else super excited to build Feather as a Commander?

I'm not sure if I'll actually build the deck, but I'll definitely brew.

[tgva8889]

Feather is perfect for multiple deck ideas I've been trying to make, so I might just jam them all into the same deck and make it happen. Plus I need a Boros deck to fill out my collection of EDH decks.

[sleepy hedgehog]

I've haven't been keeping up with MtG much over the last few years, since around Return to Ravnica.
But I'm working on updating my Sakashima the Imposter, EDH, clone based, deck.

I was wondering if you could think of any blue or color creatures that clone well.
Where 2 copies of it in play are stronger than 2x a single copy.
Like Kederekt Leviathan who repeatedly bounce the field.
or Docent of Perfection, and Master of Waves, who grow quadratically.

[Emmerlaus]

I've haven't been keeping up with MtG much over the last few years, since around Return to Ravnica.
But I'm working on updating my Sakashima the Imposter, EDH, clone based, deck.

I was wondering if you could think of any blue or color creatures that clone well.
Where 2 copies of it in play are stronger than 2x a single copy.
Like Kederekt Leviathan who repeatedly bounce the field.
or Docent of Perfection, and Master of Waves, who grow quadratically.

You are thinking of sheer numbers only but does your deck has a theme/strategy otherwise?

Viral Drake could be useful as you need only 10 poison counters to win the game. Faerie Artisans mean you get twice as many creatures each turns with doubl enter the battlefield effects. Selecting a card as Toothy, Imaginary friend mean you will have to apply the Legendary rule, so no matter how many cards you draw thanks for Toothy, the copy get as many +1/+1 counter. Perplexing Chimera allow you to respond to your own Perplexing Chimera trigger, picking the spell they wanted to cast so that their own Perplexing Chimera trigger effect fizzle.

[Karnitis]

Could someone perhaps provide me with a list of the planeswalker backstory media?

I've only been playing about 3 months, so relatively new, but I love reading and there's apparently so much more than what is just listed in the fat packs. Whenever I google it though, google just sends me to Wikipedia and Amazon and that isn't as helpful.

Is it mostly just comics, or are there novels as well? I would prefer books, but I'll soak up anything I can get. If it is in comic format, would someone also please link where I could read online? I can physically purchase books easy enough, but usually any storyline in comics can be over a dozen issues and that'll be harder to collect.

[Eurus]

I've haven't been keeping up with MtG much over the last few years, since around Return to Ravnica.
But I'm working on updating my Sakashima the Imposter, EDH, clone based, deck.

I was wondering if you could think of any blue or color creatures that clone well.
Where 2 copies of it in play are stronger than 2x a single copy.
Like Kederekt Leviathan who repeatedly bounce the field.
or Docent of Perfection, and Master of Waves, who grow quadratically.

So you're looking for creatures that synergize with clone effects...

Glen Elendra Archmage is a great choice because the clone will get Persist, and when it comes back you can pick a different target. It's also just, you know, a hilariously powerful card. Deadeye Navigator will let you repeatedly bounce your clones to get more ETB effects. Palinchron is just an infinite combo waiting to happen, Myr Battlesphere has a great ETB trigger and is generally awesome with two... Precursor Golem has a great ETB and is arguably better with more of them on the board, although in mono-blue there's not too much you can do with it except Distortion Strike/Shadow Rift. Halimar Excavator definitely grows quadratically, and instantly mills like two players to death at once if you resolve a kicked Rite of Replication on it.

Lullmage Mentor looks like almost exactly what you want, and it's not toooo dirty as long as you're not combining it with Intruder Alarm or something. Sharding Sphinx is similar, combining with itself to produce crazy numbers of tokens. Merrow Reejery is also pretty good if you have multiples, since it's both a lord effect and gives you a stackable triggered ability. Murmuring Mystic is like Docent of Perfection without the buff effect, but its tokens just naturally have flying. Nimbus Champion isn't really a card I'd recommend, but it does fill your stated criteria. Undead Alchemist ditto, you're not really gonna pull off too much zombie synergy in mono-blue singleton.

[LansXero]

Could someone perhaps provide me with a list of the planeswalker backstory media?

I've only been playing about 3 months, so relatively new, but I love reading and there's apparently so much more than what is just listed in the fat packs. Whenever I google it though, google just sends me to Wikipedia and Amazon and that isn't as helpful.

Is it mostly just comics, or are there novels as well? I would prefer books, but I'll soak up anything I can get. If it is in comic format, would someone also please link where I could read online? I can physically purchase books easy enough, but usually any storyline in comics can be over a dozen issues and that'll be harder to collect.

https://magic.wizards.com/es/story

https://www.shenafu.com/magic/magic_comics.html

https://kisslibrary.net/book/46C2C6E...data2=phpcloak

[Zhentarim]

Is 33% black, 33% blue, 25% green, 8% red, 1% white sultai?

[Gauntlet]

Is 33% black, 33% blue, 25% green, 8%, 1% white sultai?

It's closer to Sultai than it is to any other colour combination.

[Gaius Hermicus]

Is 33% black, 33% blue, 25% green, 8%, 1% white sultai?

In terms of a person’s color identity, or a deck list?

[Zhentarim]

In terms of a person’s color identity, or a deck list?

Color Identity.

[Zhentarim]

Most of the two-colour decks that are trying to aggressively curve out (like Boros, Gruul and Azorius aggro) in Standard right now are resolving this issue by leaning heavily towards one colour. The most frequent Boros lists run all Plains, four Sacred Foundry and 3-4 Clifftop Retreat, meaning all their lands make white mana to support Benalish Marshal and History of Benalia, while the only red card in the maindeck is usually Heroic Reinforcements, which only needs a single red mana source and is high enough up the curve that you have more time to draw red sources.

Generally the slower a deck is, the more it can afford to deal with a slightly clunkier mana base - the aggro decks above want to be curving out and spending all the available mana every turn, and failing to do so has real impact on its win rate. A slower deck with more impactful individual cards, like a control deck, is less worried about curving out and instead just wants to hit its land drops mainly. Non-aggro decks can much more happily play a tapped land on turn one, and spend turn three casting a two-drop and playing a tapped land, if it means they get to cast their 4 mana sweepers or big haymakers that stabilize the game. You still need to take your cards into account when building a manabase - Sultai lists often need to decide whether they want to run lots of Forests to enable turn 1 Llanowar Elves, or less Forests to enable turn 2 Thought Erasure instead, for example - but they generally have more card draw / library manipulation effects to help them find the land drops to actually cast their spells.

Those shock lands that allow you to pay two life to go immediately are a cornerstone of my 3 color decks. My esper aggro has 4 of each of the W/U, W/B, and B/U shocks that make you pay life.

[Ninjaman]

Those shock lands that allow you to pay two life to go immediately are a cornerstone of my 3 color decks. My esper aggro has 4 of each of the W/U, W/B, and B/U shocks that make you pay life.

You realize you've replied to a month and a half old post that's five pages back?

[Yaktan]

So, now that I have seen the new Gideon, I think I have a plan for my standard deck once War of the Spark comes out. I am axing all the dominaria stuff that I currently have, so as to be ready for it to cycle out.

White Aggro!
3x Gideon
3x Tomik
4x Grateful Apparition
4x Adjani's Pridemate
4x Healer's Hawk
4x Tithe Taker
4x Venerated Loxodon
4x Conclave Tribunal
4x Dawn of Hope (or maybe only 3?)
4x Unbreakable Formation (I think that is the name... the give indestructable, with addendum +1/+1 counters)
22x Plains (or maybe have 20, and 2 mobilized districts, kharn's bastions or blasting zones?)

My meta has some really hard-core people, but we are also trying hard to get in new players.

Though this plan may change depending on what else shows up... and the nonbasic lands will probably depend on how much money I am willing to spend. I guess I will have to see how much gideon and tomik end up costing.

[Emmerlaus]

Tomik is a good card for a flying creature. Only cost two, its a flyer, have 2/3 as stats. But since its ability is limited in uses and its a legendary, I would put only two copies of it.

But Im IN LOVE with Tomik art! If they make it a playmat, I'll buy my first playmat for Magic ever!

EDIT: As for the Commander format though, I will definitly put it in my Esperia the Unscrutable deck!

[mythmonster2]

Spoiler: WAR Story

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RIP Beefslab

[tgva8889]

If you are going to play Grateful Apparition or Ajani's Pridemate, it feels like you really need more support for them. I would either cut them for more of the better 1-drops, or put more support in for them. Skymarcher Aspirant and Dauntless Bodyguard are classically good in mono-white these days. If you want to keep Ajani's Pridemate I'd find space for more ways to gain life. The obvious one you're not playing is Legion's Landing, though there are some other options as well. Similarly, if you were to play Grateful Apparition, you should play more ways to put counters on. Getting the first counter with something like Sunhome Stalwart really does matter.

Now that I'm thinking about it, Mentor creatures seem very powerful with Grateful Apparition. Turning it into a 3/3 after one attack is not nothing. I think for a deck like mono-white aggro, though, that card is just too slow and low-impact. You'd rather play two one-drops than a 1/1 flier for 2 mana.

[Emmerlaus]

Spoiler: WAR Story

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RIP Beefslab

Wow, thank you for the video list. Before today, I didnt check a lot of spoilers from the set but now that I see them... GOSH! I want so many of those cards and make some new decks with them haha! Well I wont because of money reasons but this set is promising!

... that wont stop me from buying a few cards for the decks I already own though. Tomik is a must for me and that new Neheb zombie minotaur card will go well in another one of my deck too for exemple. Their is a few more worth nothing but Im too tired to start listening them up LOL

I wasnt that excited for a new set for a long time. I think the Amass ability is useless though. But I might be biased because I dont like zombies all that much. But those planeswalker cards definitly are changing the game and how its played. Proliforate became more important then ever... Same for my copy of the Eternal Sun who will surely rise in price. same for Solemnity LOL

I didnt mind that much not knowing the lore before though but the videos are kinda nice. It incited me in looking it up a little bit. And with the Youtube video line I just discovered thanks to this thread, wow!

[Karnitis]

https://magic.wizards.com/es/story

https://www.shenafu.com/magic/magic_comics.html

https://kisslibrary.net/book/46C2C6E...data2=phpcloak

Thank you!
I just finished reading all the comics in the 2nd link and I already feel a bit more of a connection with many of them than before as ' a red/green planeswalker' or 'the black one.'

[enderlord99]

Spoiler: WAR Story

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RIP Beefslab

I haven't watched the link yet, but I'm guessing Angrath died.

EDIT: Watched the link, now.

Spoiler: WAR Story

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RIP, Gideon.

[LansXero]

Since the new spellbook came out Im not sure why people are bothering with spoiler tags, but ok

Spoiler: Spoiler

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That flavor though. Ugh. I'll miss him :'(

And the with with the Trusted Pegasus and Divine Arrow ;w; QwQ

Edit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYpk...lDFZw6ak4G7SUI

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[Yaktan]

If you are going to play Grateful Apparition or Ajani's Pridemate, it feels like you really need more support for them. I would either cut them for more of the better 1-drops, or put more support in for them. Skymarcher Aspirant and Dauntless Bodyguard are classically good in mono-white these days. If you want to keep Ajani's Pridemate I'd find space for more ways to gain life. The obvious one you're not playing is Legion's Landing, though there are some other options as well. Similarly, if you were to play Grateful Apparition, you should play more ways to put counters on. Getting the first counter with something like Sunhome Stalwart really does matter.

Now that I'm thinking about it, Mentor creatures seem very powerful with Grateful Apparition. Turning it into a 3/3 after one attack is not nothing. I think for a deck like mono-white aggro, though, that card is just too slow and low-impact. You'd rather play two one-drops than a 1/1 flier for 2 mana.

The problem with things like legions landing is they cycle out in a couple of months, and I already have a deck built with dominaria cards, so this exercise is to build something that I can use after the cycling, so as to avoid building standard decks all the time. Also legions landing is more expensive than I want to spend on a standard deck.

I could drop a Tomik, a Dawn of Hope, and a Grateful Apparition for a trio of Sunholme Stalwarts, which I like in my current deck.

It would probably be too much to hope for another lifelink flier to show up in War, I suppose.

EDIT: Though that new kitty does look like a purrfect fit.