What if Elan is a descendant of Thor?

[FaithlessCleric]

I had this thought ever since I first saw Thor appear in the comic.

I don't have much proof other than the fact both of them are blond (which doesn't count, since Belief is a big factor on the world), and Thor referenced Elan on the last panel of 1146, tbh.

But why the **** not? Oh right, demigods, if they are not badass (Kratos comes to mind), they tend to suck.

[Bad Wolf]

I had this thought ever since I first saw Thor appear in the comic.

I don't have much proof other than the fact both of them are blond (which doesn't count, since Belief is a big factor on the world), and Thor referenced Elan on the last panel of 1146, tbh.

But why the **** not? Oh right, demigods, if they are not badass (Kratos comes to mind), they tend to suck.

If anything, Odin would be a better fit. Uses magic, can be a little crazy but also has his genius moments, and has a fondness for puppets.

[Fish]

Elan is a descendant of Tarquin. This theory would make Tarquin a descendant of Thor.

It would also mean Familicide came a couple of steps away from wiping out a pantheon of gods.

[Fyraltari]

I don't really see what purpose a reveal like that would serve.

Elan is a descendant of Tarquin. This theory would make Tarquin a descendant of Thor.

It would also mean Familicide came a couple of steps away from wiping out a pantheon of gods.

Last I checked Elan had two parents.

[Ginasius]

There was a pair of twin brothers in Greek mythology who shared the same mother but the father of one of them was mortal and the father of the other was a god.

I don't think the idea on which this thread is based is going to be "true" but I bring this possibility: Tarquin's son is evil, and the other son is good (and not very smart) because he is not Tarquin's.

[woweedd]

There was a pair of twin brothers in Greek mythology who shared the same mother but the father of one of them was mortal and the father of the other was a god.

I don't think the idea on which this thread is based is going to be "true" but I bring this possibility: Tarquin's son is evil, and the other son is good (and not very smart) because he is not Tarquin's.

Elan's good because he was raised by his CG mom, rather then his LE dad. Rich is a believer in nurture, not nature. As for his stupidity, that's, according to comic 350, the result of childhood brain damage. Plus, i'd argue that, while Nale may be smarter then Elan, he probably has even less Wisdom. Seriously, Nale's pretty much the archetypal "high Intelligence, Low Wisdom" character, and Elan could be read as a Forrest Gump-esque "Low Intelligence, High Wisdom" type.

[Dion]

But why the **** not? Oh right, demigods, if they are not badass (Kratos comes to mind), they tend to suck.

Yeah, Elan is pretty much useless. So that doss support your theory.

[Peelee]

But why the **** not?

[Ruck]

Elan's good because he was raised by his CG mom, rather then his LE dad. Rich is a believer in nurture, not nature.

I think it's oversimplifying to say that's definite in any way.

[factotum]

Agreed. Is there any possible reason why this being the case would improve the story in any way? Because it sounds like the only reason for doing this would be a literal deus ex machina--e.g. the Order get into a bad situation and it turns out they escape from it by Elan learning of his divine heritage and using a previously unseen demigod power to do it.

[Mad Humanist]

Agreed. Is there any possible reason why this being the case would improve the story in any way? Because it sounds like the only reason for doing this would be a literal deus ex machina--e.g. the Order get into a bad situation and it turns out they escape from it by Elan learning of his divine heritage and using a previously unseen demigod power to do it.

It could also be seen as a "blond white males have superpowers and save the day narrative". I can't see the Giant going down that route somehow.

[woweedd]

I think it's oversimplifying to say that's definite in any way.

It seems pretty clear.

[Ruck]

It seems pretty clear.

If it did, I wouldn't have said what I said.

Can you provide support for this assertion?

[Goblin_Priest]

It could also be seen as a "blond white males have superpowers and save the day narrative". I can't see the Giant going down that route somehow.

Did I miss the rule stating that blond white males are disallowed from saving the day?

Elan's good because he was raised by his CG mom, rather then his LE dad. Rich is a believer in nurture, not nature. As for his stupidity, that's, according to comic 350, the result of childhood brain damage. Plus, i'd argue that, while Nale may be smarter then Elan, he probably has even less Wisdom. Seriously, Nale's pretty much the archetypal "high Intelligence, Low Wisdom" character, and Elan could be read as a Forrest Gump-esque "Low Intelligence, High Wisdom" type.

Oh, oh! What if... Elan was raised by his CG mom, and Nale, by... his mom's LE consort of the time! What if... she had a little affair with Thor, and Tarquin isn't either one's dad!?

Eh!? Eh!? What if!

[Fyraltari]

Did I miss the rule stating that blond white males are disallowed from saving the day?

Yes because the issue would have absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the white, blond blue-eyed man would save the day thanks to his superior genetic heritage that he got from a germanic-scandinavian god, by the way. I'm sure this would not send any kind of message, no sir.

Oh, oh! What if... Elan was raised by his CG mom, and Nale, by... his mom's LE consort of the time! What if... she had a little affair with Thor, and Tarquin isn't either one's dad!?

Eh!? Eh!? What if!

Consort who just happen to look exactly like older versions of the twins.

[D.One]

Considering Elan's complete lack of beard, I'd say he's not descendant of Thor. Balder, maybe, but not Thor.

[hamishspence]

Elan's inability to grow a beard is due to the goo Nale used to stick Nale's beard to Elan's face:

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0388.html

[Lombard]

What if Elan is a descendant of Thor. What if.

[Dion]

Elan's inability to grow a beard is due to the goo Nale used to stick Nale's beard to Elan's face:

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0388.html

Those are just facts. Everyone knows you can use facts to prove anything thats true.

[Potatopeelerkin]

Nah. Everyone knows Elan is a descendant of the flumphs.

[dtilque]

Note that the question is about being a descendant, not necessarily a son. Elan could be Thor's grandson through his mother, for example. And then there's the fact that Thor used to be a redhead. Haley's a redhead, maybe she's Thor's granddaughter. Could Haley and Elan be cousins?

[MoonCat]

The fact that no one's brought up that this would pair nicely with Haley's mom being a celestial makes me feel so old. Have we forgotten all the epileptic trees of the past?

[Fyraltari]

The fact that no one's brought up that this would pair nicely with Haley's mom being a celestial makes me feel so old. Have we forgotten all the epileptic trees of the past?

Spoiler: Is this you ?

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EDIT: Just remembered Elrond has divine ancestry!

[D.One]

Have we forgotten all the epileptic trees of the past?

May Lord Odin bless that.

[woweedd]

Note that the question is about being a descendant, not necessarily a son. Elan could be Thor's grandson through his mother, for example. And then there's the fact that Thor used to be a redhead. Haley's a redhead, maybe she's Thor's granddaughter. Could Haley and Elan be cousins?

They're both 1/58th Thor. Which, granted, also applies to everyone in the North.

[Fyraltari]

They're both 1/58th Thor. Which, granted, also applies to everyone in the North.

Coincidentally, everyone in the North is also at least 1/24th Loki (he gets around a lot).

[Peelee]

Coincidentally, everyone in the North is also at least 1/24th Loki (he gets around a lot).

If we keep going, I'm pretty sure we'll end up at everyone in the North being Freya.

[D.One]

If we keep going, I'm pretty sure we'll end up at everyone in the North being Freya.

There must be a reason Odin is also called the Allfather...

[Doug Lampert]

They're both 1/58th Thor. Which, granted, also applies to everyone in the North.

Quite possibly.

Coincidentally, everyone in the North is also at least 1/24th Loki (he gets around a lot).

Quite likely, and note that in Loki's case "everyone" includes livestock and monsters. He really got around.

If we keep going, I'm pretty sure we'll end up at everyone in the North being Freya.

Well, it's not like she's the bringer of pestilence.

There must be a reason Odin is also called the Allfather...

Probably true.

[Synesthesy]

I think that Elan is actually a descendant of Banjo who, after becaming an official full god and a member of the northern pantheon, traveled back in time. Then he schapechange into Tarquin, and become the father of his own creator.
Considering the creator of a puppet a "father", this means that Banjo is the grandfather of himself.

All of this for a bet he will take in the future with a drunk Thor, on a Loki suggestion. Why Loki did that? For the lulz.