OOTS #1153 - The Discussion Thread

[Fyraltari]

No Celts in Civ VI, at least not yet. But I unsurprisingly like Boudicca as a (Civ) leader.

Did they ever use Vercingétorix as a ruler for the Celts?

[The_Weirdo]

Did they ever use Vercingétorix as a ruler for the Celts?

No, but he does surface as a Great General from time to time.

In Civ VI I immediately homed in on Arabia with Saladin. I feel most comfortable with playstyles where I raise both faith/culture and science so Saladin combining the two fields fell into my nieche perfectly.

I tend to like China for the wonder game - or Brazil for the Great Person game. While I do focus on religion, culture and science, I feel most at home when I'm going for big, epic bursts of awesomeness in the shape of Wonders or Great People.

[Fyraltari]

Well that's accurate.

[The_Weirdo]

Well that's accurate.

Vive Vercingétorix!
Vive Vercingétirox!
Vive Cervingétorix!
Vive Vergregocetrigérix!

(Let's see if you catch the reference)

[Fyraltari]

Vive Vercingétorix!
Vive Vercingétirox!
Vive Cervingétorix!
Vive Vergregocetrigérix!

(Let's see if you catch the reference)

Farpaitement!

[The_Weirdo]

Farpaitement!

For someone with such a high CON score, Obélix gets drunk quite easily.

[hroþila]

Speaking of Vercingetorix, what's with Geriatrix talking about the Battle of Gergovia like it's this ancient epic victory that the Gauls pulled off when he was young. Or are we to believe he fought there (with no magic potion) when he was already in his mid to late 80s, or even early 90s.

[The_Weirdo]

Speaking of Vercingetorix, what's with Geriatrix talking about the Battle of Gergovia like it's this ancient epic victory that the Gauls pulled off when he was young. Or are we to believe he fought there (with no magic potion) when he was already in his mid to late 80s, or even early 90s.

The timeframe in Astérix is sketchy at best...

[Fyraltari]

For someone with such a high CON score, Obélix gets drunk quite easily.

He almost never drinks so he has no built up immunity.

Speaking of Vercingetorix, what's with Geriatrix talking about the Battle of Gergovia like it's this ancient epic victory that the Gauls pulled off when he was young. Or are we to believe he fought there (with no magic potion) when he was already in his mid to late 80s, or even early 90s.

The chronology doesn’t matter. Also I’m sure he fought in it as an octeganarian because it’s funny.

[The_Weirdo]

The chronology doesn’t matter. Also I’m sure he fought in it as an octeganarian because it’s funny.

Also, quite in keeping with how he usually behaves...

[D.One]

The chronology doesn’t matter.

Yeah, I'd agree that the chronology is fuzzy at best since at some point Caesar agrees that the Gauls are gods, gives them control of the Roman Empire, and retires to live with Cleopatra in a little house in the country. (12 Tasks of Asterix)

[The_Weirdo]

Yeah, I'd agree that the chronology is fuzzy at best since at some point Caesar agrees that the Gauls are gods, gives them control of the Roman Empire, and retires to live with Cleopatra in a little house in the country. (12 Tasks of Asterix)

Cesar got a better deal in that ending than in real life, though...

[Sindeloke]

Cesar got a better deal in that ending than in real life, though...

Eh, I've been assured by several seasons of Xena that he thoroughly had it coming.

[D.One]

Cesar got a better deal in that ending than in real life, though...

What!!! Is that not what really happened?! Now I'm disappointed...

[The_Weirdo]

Eh, I've been assured by several seasons of Xena that he thoroughly had it coming.

I'm not saying he didn't. I'm saying he got a better deal in that ending than in RL.

[Fyraltari]

Yeah, I'd agree that the chronology is fuzzy at best since at some point Caesar agrees that the Gauls are gods, gives them control of the Roman Empire, and retires to live with Cleopatra in a little house in the country. (12 Tasks of Asterix)

Don't forget, all of it happens during the year 50 BC (despite us seiing the same seasons multiple times), when Caesar launched all of his campains at once and was Emperor of Rome and the Coliseum was already built.

The era is purely aesthetic, it's supposed to be ancient Gaul as seen by french schoolchildren, where every roman wore togas all the time and every note was taken on marble slates and Egyptians spoke with hyeroglyphs, etc.

[The_Weirdo]

Egyptians spoke with hyeroglyphs, etc.

And, also, are quite easy to convince that a barracks is a hotel.

[Fyraltari]

And, also, are quite easy to convince that a barracks is a hotel.

That was jus the one guy. But it's okay: all that camaraderie reminded him of the time he spent in the army.

[The_Weirdo]

That was jus the one guy. But it's okay: all that camaraderie reminded him of the time he spent in the army.

Hey, question: what is the name of that Cambrai candy in Tour de Gaulle that got translated in Portuguese as "Mentiras" ("lies")?

Edit: Found it: Bêtise. Would translate more literally as "Besteira" (screwup), but the option for "lies" maintained other jokes better, so I can see where the translator is coming from.

[Sir_Norbert]

Splendidly translated as "humbugs" in English, which means both a type of candy and a fraudster.

[The_Weirdo]

Splendidly translated as "humbugs" in English, which means both a type of candy and a fraudster.

Nice, nice.

[Peelee]

Splendidly translated as "humbugs" in English, which means both a type of candy and a fraudster.

I'm assuming that's a non-American dialect, because I've never heard of either of those definitions. "humbug" translates to "oh you're clearly referencing Ebenezer Scrooge, since that weird is never encountered anywhere else."

[Fyraltari]

I'm assuming that's a non-American dialect, because I've never heard of either of those definitions. "humbug" translates to "oh you're clearly referencing Ebenezer Scrooge, since that weird is never encountered anywhere else."

I don't know if you just forgot to type "word" or subconsciously typed "weird" instead but it just works.

Are mentiras also delicacies?

[woweedd]

Don't forget, all of it happens during the year 50 BC (despite us seiing the same seasons multiple times), when Caesar launched all of his campains at once and was Emperor of Rome and the Coliseum was already built.

The era is purely aesthetic, it's supposed to be ancient Gaul as seen by french schoolchildren, where every roman wore togas all the time and every note was taken on marble slates and Egyptians spoke with hyeroglyphs, etc.

Fun fact: Gosciny and Uderzo did a metric butt-load of time and effort researching each volume..And then immediately threw out that research in favor of whatever's funny as needed. Half the anachronisms they show actually existed at the time. The rest are made up for comedy. Uderzo is, reportedly, quite embarrassed when someone brings up their few unintentional anachronisms, rare as they are. Still, they did end up making him and his predecessor the best-selling authors in French history. Yes, really. More then Alexandre Dumas, or VICTOR FREAKING HUGO. Though, granted, Hugo never got a theme park. And they started a few fandom rivalries along their way, like their famous one with "The Blandest Fictional Character In The World", better known as "Tintin", or, as I think his comic SHOULD have been called, "The Adventures Of Captain Haddock and His Sober Ginger Companion."

[Peelee]

I don't know if you just forgot to type "word" or subconsciously typed "weird" instead but it just works.

Are mentiras also delicacies?

A using typo. I'll leave it.

Also, I dunno but we have Mentos. They may be a delicacy in Kentucky, I guess?

[The_Weirdo]

Are mentiras also delicacies?

Not really, no. I mean, sure, people here eat them up a lot, especially from WhatsApp, but no.

[D.One]

Are mentiras also delicacies?

Not to my knowledge, but we're a quite large country, and people call the same things by wildly different names in different regions. Don't get me started with tangerines...

[Ironsmith]

And they started a few fandom rivalries along their way, like their famous one with "The Blandest Fictional Character In The World", better known as "Tintin", or, as I think his comic SHOULD have been called, "The Adventures Of Captain Haddock and His Sober Ginger Companion."

"Adventures of Snowy and owner"

[KorvinStarmast]

The lady who did a lot of translation into English for Uderzo & Goscinny - Anthea Bell - recently passed away, and got a nice obituary in The Economist. One of her talents was to set up English jokes for the situations where a direct translation would not come off as a joke. (I'd lief as not be here either, old bean is one of the ones they mentioned and one I still recall from one of the first Asterix books we ever got)

[hroþila]

The timeframe in Astérix is sketchy at best...

The chronology doesn’t matter. Also I’m sure he fought in it as an octeganarian because it’s funny.

I know, but I expect my Asterix comics to be DECENT HISTORY LESSONS...



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