OOTS #1159 - The Discussion Thread

[Resileaf]

Invisibility ends when the invisible person attacks (among other triggers). The Greater version lets the unseen one attack while keeping it (which may make you appreciate Belkar's line way back when better).

The wand would save a spell slot, but I'm guessing V cast it on her for the Sneak Attack bonuses to apply.

Not that undead can be sneak attacked.

[Peelee]

Not that undead can be sneak attacked.

Blah. My bad. Still lets her attack without being seen. Not quite as useful, though.

[Ruck]

Invisibility ends when the invisible person attacks (among other triggers). The Greater version lets the unseen one attack while keeping it (which may make you appreciate Belkar's line way back when better).

The wand would save a spell slot, but I'm guessing V cast it on her for the Sneak Attack bonuses to apply.

I had picked that up from the context of earlier strips. It also seems that Invisibility Purge would dispel either one.

[understatement]

Isn't the worm undead? Haley won't have any Sneak Attacks, and the thing's immune to cold damage.

EDIT: ninja'ed.

whups

[Jasdoif]

So... is that thing a nightcrawler?

All of the indications so far point in that direction, yes.

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Invisibility ends when the invisible person attacks (among other triggers). The Greater version lets the unseen one attack while keeping it (which may make you appreciate Belkar's line way back when better).

The wand would save a spell slot, but I'm guessing V cast it on her for the Sneak Attack bonuses to apply.

Invisibility also lasts ten times as long as greater invisibility.

[Resileaf]

Personally, I assume that invisibility was meant for them to scout and get in position for their plan without being located, so greater invisibility, even extended (or especially extended), would have been a waste of high spell slot.

[zimmerwald1915]

Isn't the worm undead? Haley won't have any Sneak Attacks, and the thing's immune to cold damage.

I suspect the Order knows that, and that she and Vaarsuvius (who has a bunch of SR: yes spells and a bad track record at piercing SR) are playing distraction. They are both entirely useless in any other role.

[Peelee]

Invisibility also lasts ten times as long as greater invisibility.

Yeah, with the Sneak Attack being off the table standard Invisibility is rapidly becoming the better option.

Personally, I assume that invisibility was meant for them to scout and get in position for their plan without being located, so greater invisibility, even extended (or especially extended), would have been a waste of high spell slot.

Yeah, with the Snea-whoah, déjà vu.

I suspect the Order knows that, and that she and Vaarsuvius (who has a bunch of SR: yes spells and a bad track record at piercing SR) are playing distraction. They are both entirely useless in any other role.

Nightcrawlers also have Greater Dispel Magic, so V can't even Forcecage.

[Lurtz]

I don't think anyone mentioned this before, but to me this strip seems like a fantastically-done reference to the guards scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail!

[AutomatedTeller]

Very funny stuff :) the worm is awesome.

[Zorgoth]

Yeah, with the Sneak Attack being off the table standard Invisibility is rapidly becoming the better option.

Yeah, with the Snea-whoah, déjà vu.


Nightcrawlers also have Greater Dispel Magic, so V can't even Forcecage.

Forcecage is immune to Greater Dispel Magic, though I don't think a Gargantuan creature can realistically fit in a Forcecage (but it might at the size it's drawn).

[CosmicHobbit]

I relate to the worm on a spiritual level. This comic never fails to make me laugh!

[hamishspence]

I don't think a Gargantuan creature can realistically fit in a Forcecage (but it might at the size it's drawn).

The barred cage version would work - 20 ft cube - normal Gargantuan creatures have a 20 ft space.

[Peelee]

Forcecage is immune to Greater Dispel Magic, though I don't think a Gargantuan creature can realistically fit in a Forcecage (but it might at the size it's drawn).

Well dang, I should just stop trying to comment on the rules today.

[dtilque]

I assume blackwing is saying "I told you so," as in eat crow.

No, he's just confused by the worm talking about him as an invisible crow. He's a raven, so he assumes there must be another invisible bird around.

[JennTora]

This is why you shouldn't be so hateful to your summon creatures even when they're slightly annoying. It was a perfectly legitimate question that was important for the probably a nightcrawler to ask. I hope that this vampire cleric learns this lesson.

[Fyraltari]

This is why you shouldn't be so hateful to your summon creatures even when they're slightly annoying. It was a perfectly legitimate question that was important for the probably a nightcrawler to ask. I hope that this vampire cleric learns this lesson.

Paraphrasing another comic "He can't learn anything if that geets him killed".

[kenlund]

what is the range on dispelling magic or greater dispelling? If Haley and V lose their flying spells, it looks like quite a drop at the moment.

[Particle_Man]

The standard nightcrawler is a genius with INT and WIS 20. I am getting a pedantic academic tone from this one. Though it is not perceptive enough to tell the difference between a crow and a raven: "not my field of expertise"

[Fyraltari]

Have we ever seen the back of Gontor's head before? Because I thought him fully bald until that penultimate panel weirded me out for a moment.

[hamishspence]

Have we ever seen the back of Gontor's head before?

At least once before he became a vampire:

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0994.html

[Fyraltari]

At least once before he became a vampire:

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0994.html

Oh right. Still looks weird.

[Peelee]

Oh right. Still looks weird.

Kind of like a half-tonsure.

[Oxenstierna]

Surprisingly chill dude, for an extraplanar undead abomination.

Apparently a Charisma of 18, I’m assuming it’s not for the attractive appearance!

[Fyraltari]

Kind of like a half-tonsure.

Tonsures, I can handle. But that one is level with his beard. Beards should not go around your head!

[Peelee]

Tonsures, I can handle. But that one is level with his beard. Beards should not go around your head!

Hmm. Tonsure beard is kind of weird. Maybe he calls that beard style a Drop D T. Yeah, a guitar joke while talking about beards, I'm bold like that.

[JumboWheat01]

Anti-illusion spells are always handy to have on hand, no matter your class.

[lenon3579]

Death Worm + Monster in the Darkness = Best Friends Forever

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[Canisius]

The crow/raven thing made me think of (Marvel's) Thor calling Rocket a rabbit.

[wolph42]

Awesome worm, I want it in my game too!