OOTS #1163 - The Discussion Thread

[The_Weirdo]

: "You're not my Thad!"

[SilverCacaobean]

Well, a family that big, someone's bound to be a high level badass . I think it'll be very funny if that guy is never seen or mentioned again. Anyway, whatever happens with him, he got a laugh out of me.

To my shame, I laughed at Belkar's joke more. :P

[Reboot]

Half-Celestial Dwarf?

Celestial get black-on-yellow/orange speech balloons.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0664.html
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1147.html

As mentioned, the closest seen colour-wise is Celia, but she never got a non-standard font.

[Draconi Redfir]

Poor Thad :P

New guys seems kinda like a death-knight to me. would be kinda ironic if he was some kind of undead.

[Riftwolf]

Not one to hoard her wealth, Sigdi passed her badassery onto random family members every Dwarfmas...
Is there a class that requires a few rounds to 'charge up' attacks? Or is this a Dwarf Saiyan?

[Grey_Wolf_c]

Poor Thad :P

New guys seems kinda like a death-knight to me. would be kinda ironic if he was some kind of undead.

That would make him one of those disgusting biophilics.

Thankfully, he'd also talk white-on-black.

Grey Wolf

[Riftwolf]

Poor Thad :P

New guys seems kinda like a death-knight to me. would be kinda ironic if he was some kind of undead.

I thought the same XD Durkons family is so sprawling it ranges into different gaming franchises!

[Brassthorn]

I'm going to go with ... Totemist/Ironsoul ForgeMaster, given that he seems reasonably competent and the blue screams Incarnum. Totemist because no Soulborn has glowing blue eyes (they're yellow, green, red or black) and Incarnate has poor BAB.

[Fyraltari]

That would make him one of those disgusting biophiliacs.

That’s making an assumption about Durkon’s cousin’s brother-in-law’s niece’s life status. I mean, it would explain how her relationship with Thad ended.

[Gluteus_Maximus]

Hell, durkon's family's smaller than mine, and I can't follow his!

I hope we get to see this guy's face and the rest of his personality by the end of the arc, though. Can't just leave dwarven lands with the hope that durkon's cousin's brother-in-law's niece's is going to be living with a sudden chivalrous badass instead of Thad! Poor thad.

[Reboot]

New guys seems kinda like a death-knight to me. would be kinda ironic if he was some kind of undead.

Death Knight: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0437.html

[Leftour]

To those talking about deus ex machina, this is a cr 5 elemental (about 60 hp) that has received at least a flamestrike in the face. You dont need to be really op to finish it. The new guy is probably strong enough to make a difference but not necesserily high lvl.

[Draconi Redfir]

That would make him one of those disgusting biophilics.

Thankfully, he'd also talk white-on-black.

Grey Wolf

Some kind of frost-based undead rather then negitive-energy based undead then?

[acpiper]

That cape looks like a dishtowel. Is it secured with clothespins? That's how I used to fly.

[Blatt]

Looks like elementals don't get X's in their eyes when they die ---- or it's not dead... dun, dun, dun!

[Jannoire]

Some kind of frost-based undead rather then negitive-energy based undead then?

So, after Rich stole from

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Endgame

he is now copying from

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game of thrones

[Rogar Demonblud]

Dammit Rich, how do you keep sneak attacking our funny bones like that?

[Fyraltari]

Dammit Rich, how do you keep sneak attacking our funny bones like that?

Lots of practice.

[zimmerwald1915]

Looks like elementals don't get X's in their eyes when they die ---- or it's not dead... dun, dun, dun!

Monsters summoned with summon monster do not die when they are killed. They return to their plane of origin, none the worse for wear.

[Fyraltari]

Monsters summoned with summoned monster do not die when they are killed. They return to their plane of origin, none the worse for wear.

Can you summon someone from the plane you are on? Someone standing next two you? Does that give them twice the HP?

[jwhouk]

Sigdi doesn't believe in bringing a knife to a gunfight.

She brings a tank.

[Peelee]

Planar Handbook does have "Frost Dwarves" at least. Maybe he's one of those?

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Glowing eyes - check. Massive horns on helmet - check.

Im joining Team Frost Dwarf!

[slayerx]

Just came here to see if anyone has already done a family tree in order for me to understand that.

If i got it right, The dark helmet guy actually made it more confusing than it needed to be, since referring to Durkon's "cousin's brother-in-law" is actually redundant. His "cousin's brother in law" would be the husband of his cousin's sister who in turn is also Durkon's cousin, so Dark Helmet could have just said "your cousin's husband's Niece's fiance" though he could have also just said "I am the fiance of your cousin-in-law's niece"

[Jasdoif]

Can you summon someone from the plane you are on? Someone standing next two you? Does that give them twice the HP?

Well....Assuming all the hoops have been jumped through to have a magical effect that summons (not calls) a specific creature, one who happens to be next to you....It takes 24 hours for a "killed" summoned creature to reform, so having twice the HP may not be as useful as expected.

[zimmerwald1915]

Can you summon someone from the plane you are on?

Not with summon monster, nor with any other spell with which I'm familiar. In OOTS, however, you demonstrably can whisk someone across a plane to your side. Dorukan does so with respect to Lirian. The exact mechanics of how he does so are not clear; given the magic circle he uses, however, it is probably a calling effect of some kind.

[Jay R]

I believe that the rules of the internet now require us to demand a complete backstory for not-Thad.

[Doug Lampert]

Poor Thad :P

But at least they stayed friends.

[Draconi Redfir]

But at least they stayed friends.

true. he might even be in the battle right now!

[JackPhoenix]

Death Knight: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0437.html

Yeah. D&D Death Knight =/= WoW Death Knight.

Planar Handbook does have "Frost Dwarves" at least. Maybe he's one of those?

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Glowing eyes - check. Massive horns on helmet - check.

Icy beard: no check. That's kinda more important than glowing eyes (which isn't clear from the picture, may be just monocolor on frost dwarf) or horned helmet (which anyone can wear... see Hilga)

[tyckspoon]

So, does anyone with more 3.5 knowledge than me happen to know what that guy‘s deal is? Also, the title of this strip is quite possibly one of my favorites.

Not with certainty, there's a lot of options that could meet what is displayed. Soulknife (makes psychic weapons) and Incarnate (uses magical soul-stuff to shape various pseudo-magic-items, literally everything is blue to the point of near self-parody) are probably the closest matches. Soulknives don't typically wear heavy armor - they don't get class-granted proficiency - but there's no particular reason for them not to if they get that proficiency from multiclassing or a feat. Nothing to explain the glowing blue eyes or font effect, tho, Soulknives don't really *do* anything aside from the psychic weapon thing.

Incarnates don't typically do heavy armor either, but again there is nothing in their class that would forbid them from doing so if they wanted. One of their trademark soulmelds makes a weapon out of nothing, and like I said everything associated with incarnum is some shade of blue, so that would cover the visual effect neatly. Could be a Soulborn, perhaps, which is sort of the incarnum version of a Paladin.

'Course, we could also assume he's a Cleric, or just a Fighter, or almost any martial class benefiting from a couple of buffs. The only really distinct thing is the non-physical sword, and that could be the appearance of a Brilliant Energy weapon (or a normal sword with the appropriate spell cast on it) or a Flame Blade spell or something.