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2019-09-13, 10:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-09-13, 10:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is everything pre-determined in OOTS world?
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2019-09-13, 12:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is everything pre-determined in OOTS world?
Because we experience time in a linear fashion it does not mean the universe does. The big bang and the long runout may have happened simultaneously. In that case every event, no matter how small, has already happened. It is not fated, or even determined: our choices matter. But we've already made those future choices using our free will.
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2019-09-14, 01:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is everything pre-determined in OOTS world?
On the contrary, they do affect all larger structures, just that usually the probabilities average out when you multiply them by millions of atoms.
However statistical aberrations can and do happen. Quantum mechanics state that basically anything is possible at any moment at any scale, just that most "impossible" events at our scale have absurdly low probabilities. But still greater than zero.
However a small random fluctuation can cascade to bigger events. Like the classic Schrödinger’s Cat experiment makes use of a radiation detector that only has a 50% chance of detecting a specific radioactive sample to trigger the poison. The cat is at our scale, but has 50% odds of dying or living thanks to quantum mechanics randomness.
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2019-09-14, 05:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is everything pre-determined in OOTS world?
Last edited by Fyraltari; 2019-09-14 at 07:50 AM.
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2019-09-14, 07:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is everything pre-determined in OOTS world?
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
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2019-09-14, 09:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is everything pre-determined in OOTS world?
Wait, didn't this thread die twice already?
Maybe I'm just getting to old for this
The cat isn't dead because there were airholes, fresh water, and a nice big dead stoat in there with the cat. The cat's fine. Maybe a bit perturbed and feeling claustrophobic, but quite alive.Last edited by Squire Doodad; 2019-09-14 at 10:01 AM.
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2019-09-14, 12:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-09-14, 12:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is everything pre-determined in OOTS world?
True, but that's because it's stupidly hard to come up with good analogies for quantum mechanics, as I'm sure Schrödinger would be the first to agree. In fact, I've always thought it sad that his other famous claim about quantum mechanics never got quite as big - “I don’t like it, and I’m sorry I ever had anything to do with it.”
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
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2019-09-14, 02:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is everything pre-determined in OOTS world?
The Oracle’s powers are not incompatible with quantum mechanics, since we have been shown that The Oracle exists. QED.
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2019-09-15, 12:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is everything pre-determined in OOTS world?
Counterargument we have not been shown that quantum mechanics exist in the Stickverse
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2019-09-15, 01:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-09-16, 06:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is everything pre-determined in OOTS world?
Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
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2019-10-03, 06:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is everything pre-determined in OOTS world?
Yes, but I'm not sure how that's supposed to be relevant. Unless you mean to conflate free will with unpredictability itself.
Aren't previews a type of spoiler?
I think that the Many-Worlds interpretation is the main one that does away with the contrivance "waveform collapse", which was always rather a vague handwave.
Isn't it an argument that small-scale superposition implies large-scale superposition? And Schrödinger denied the consequent based largely on his own preconceptions? But the available evidence supports affirming the antecedent, so doing that understandably seems to be more common? Or something like that?
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2019-10-03, 08:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is everything pre-determined in OOTS world?
Schrodinger's Cat as a thought experiment is sarcastic and intended to scan as ridiculous- "If we accept the Copenhagen Interpretation of quantum mechanics, then this is true. Since we clearly see that this is not true, then the Copenhagen Interpretation of quantum mechanics is patently ridiculous."
The problem is that whoever wrote it down forgot to also write down the tone of sneering contempt with which the thought experiment was intended to be delivered with.
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2019-10-03, 08:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is everything pre-determined in OOTS world?
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
Number of times Roland St. Jude has sworn revenge upon me: 2
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2019-10-03, 02:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is everything pre-determined in OOTS world?
The thing is, "Observing" a particle doesn't mean a human being has to look at it and that's observation. In fact, a human probably couldn't even see it. Anything at all interacting with it is observing it. The atoms in the cat are observing each other. The atoms in the poison are observing each other. The air molecules around the cesium are observing it, and so on. You can't 'scale up' the concept of superposition because in doing so you create billions of mini systems that are collapsing each other.