Not-So-Mith'd Opportunity: Random Banter # 222

[Honest Tiefling]

You haven't heard of the very awkward Vanilla Ice vehicle known as Cool as Ice? I envy YOUR life.

[enderlord99]

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Roland said that's a slur.

[Honest Tiefling]

Roland said that's a slur.

Fixed, sorry about that.

[Peelee]

Not seen Kangaroo Jack then? Tsk.

You make dangerous assumptions. at least that one has Bernard from Law & Order in it. Still not as bad as Anchorman.

You haven't heard of the very awkward Vanilla Ice vehicle known as Cool as Ice? I envy YOUR life.

Don't envy it for long, now I really wanna see that!

[LaZodiac]

Anchorman is the best argument the British, or anyone else, could pull out if they wanted to advocate for the downfall of American cinema. Truly, that was our darkest hour.

Haven't seen Jackass, haven't heard of Cool as Ice. That said, it's unequivocally worse. I envy your blissfully Anchorman-less life.

Somehow in all of today's conversation this is the most wrong thing I've ever heard.

Vanilla Ice's ****ty romance-comedy and a bunch of dumb****s violenceing each other are not better then a really good comedy movie. How could you think that?

The lives of a pair of socially inept geeks, one of whom is autistic, are inverted by the arrival of a socially proficient but non-geek-literate woman who forces them to interact with the outside world. Just because they don't pay the royalties doesn't mean it's not a remake.

big Bang Theory is a group of four friends not a pair, and that aside you've described the basic premise of every sitcom. I've SEEN The IT Crowd, and it's not even remotely similar.

[DataNinja]

Somehow in all of today's conversation this is the most wrong thing I've ever heard.

Vanilla Ice's ****ty romance-comedy and a bunch of dumb****s violenceing each other are not better then a really good comedy movie. How could you think that?

I mean, I imagine it has something to do with one's personal tastes. My brother holds up Dumb and Dumber as some highlight of comedy, while to me it is the only movie that I've watched (I was forced to do so, by the way - I was told "no, you can't go to bed instead") and felt that I would have actively stared at a wall for two hours and had that be a better use of my time.

So... it's just that opinions are subjective, I suppose.

[LaZodiac]

I mean, I imagine it has something to do with one's personal tastes. My brother holds up Dumb and Dumber as some highlight of comedy, while to me it is the only movie that I've watched (I was forced to do so, by the way - I was told "no, you can't go to bed instead") and felt that I would have actively stared at a wall for two hours and had that be a better use of my time.

So... it's just that opinions are subjective, I suppose.

Yeah that's fair, but I feel like being so SURE that Anchor-man is a worse film than them is a hell of a take.

And yeah almost as if all humour is subjective or something

[Algeh]

Are you in the states? Because I'm heavily gluten-intolerant and it is VERY sneaky on this continent, as shared equipment basically rules out a lot of things for me. We should compare notes to see which wins.

Hell, Kellogs currently has a recipe on their website for a gluten-free dessert that is anything but.

Yes, I'm in the USA.

Well, to be truly pedantic, I was talking about allergens rather than all intolerance triggers. Wheat allergy is a thing, but most people who need to avoid gluten are doing so for reasons of non-allergic intolerances. (Do we have a color-code for excessive pedantry? I feel this paragraph needs one.)

That, or I'm actually not sure which is harder. Both suffer from the problems of "clueless people not realizing that the thing is in the thing" pretty badly, but I think a higher percentage of things that contain gluten do so in an "obvious" way than things containing soy, at least in the American diet. Both of them also have a ton of places they're included sneakily, but there are more dishes where wheat is featured as an intentional ingredient than soy, which is almost always not the featured food in the dish.

Like, if I'm trying to figure out which things don't have gluten, I don't even need to read the labels on a random package of cookies - if it doesn't say gluten free in big letters on the front, it'll totally have gluten in it and there's no need to double-check that assumption by reading the label. With soy, I pretty much have to ask about each individual thing that isn't tofu since it's all equally likely to contain soy and the exceptions are neither obvious nor marketed as such. (I currently have some imported French chocolate-dipped butter cookies made with sunflower lecithin, but the only reason I have them is because I keep reading labels on everything for that one time out of 50 or 100 that I'll actually be able to eat the thing.)

On the other hand, since gluten doesn't have to be called out (as opposed to wheat or whatever other gluten-containing grain being called out by name) and cross-contamination is a bigger issue, there's a whole separate set of problems there. On an additional hand, at least there is a large enough market for gluten free foods that you can find things called out as specifically for that, which does not seem to be a thing with soy-free foods.

On the whole, I am envious of a college friend of mine. Her only food allergy is to pork. At least two different religions specifically don't eat that, plus vegetarians don't either. It still limits her food choices, but she has a much, much easier time than I do in finding safe food.

[Peelee]

Somehow in all of today's conversation this is the most wrong thing I've ever heard.

Vanilla Ice's ****ty romance-comedy and a bunch of dumb****s violenceing each other are not better then a really good comedy movie.

Oh, I absolutely agree. They are, however, significantly better than Anchorman.

Wull Ferrell has had the starring role in exactly two good movies - Stranger than Fiction and Your Welcome, America, both of which were phenomenally funny and had two starkly different characters. He has, separately, played the exact same painfully unfunny character as the starring role in a shockingly large number of other, very bad movies - painfully unfunny idiot as a newscaster, painfully unfunny idiot as a race car driver, painfully unfunny idiot at Christmas, etc etc.

Other movies where he's a supporting character or part of an ensamble cast he does great, notably because he plays an actually different character in each of those. But the one-trick-pony character made a ton of money so they kept Maki. G those movies. Shame, that.

[LaZodiac]

Oh, I absolutely agree. They are, however, significantly better than Anchorman.

Wull Ferrell has had the starring role in exactly two good movies - Stranger than Fiction and Your Welcome, America, both of which were phenomenally funny and had two starkly different characters. He has, separately, played the exact same painfully unfunny character as the starring role in a shockingly large number of other, very bad movies - painfully unfunny idiot as a newscaster, painfully unfunny idiot as a race car driver, painfully unfunny idiot at Christmas, etc etc.

Other movies where he's a supporting character or part of an ensamble cast he does great, notably because he plays an actually different character in each of those. But the one-trick-pony character made a ton of money so they kept Maki. G those movies. Shame, that.

I disagree, though I have not seen You're Welcome America and the unstated movies you mentioned are bad. Stranger Than Fiction is absolutely choice though.

The Other Guys was legit good though, as was Get Hard in a very stupid sort of way, and both at least had very cool and fun credit sequences where the film reminds you that the real enemy is the rich so I'm always going to appreciate that.

[enderlord99]

Although I've only read the Wikipedia article for it, I already know for a fact that Anchorman is both:

• Terrible

...and...

• better than Freddy Got Fingered

[Peelee]

I disagree, though I have not seen You're Welcome America and the unstated movies you mentioned are bad. Stranger Than Fiction is absolutely choice though.

The Other Guys was legit good though, as was Get Hard in a very stupid sort of way, and both at least had very cool and fun credit sequences where the film reminds you that the real enemy is the rich so I'm always going to appreciate that.

Haven't seen Other Guys or Get Hard. From the trailers, the didn't look as bad as the other ones he did, but I was pretty burned out on Will Ferrell by that point.

Ive seen The Nice Guys, but that's because I'm a huge sucker for Shane Black movies.

[factotum]

Anyway, I'm watching the latest adaptation of Watership Down,and I'm really not enjoying what they did to Bigwig. He seems to have lost all his calm from the books, where he might have known he was the Moray experienced but still had the decency to listent o others. I like Bigwig, I don't like this strange rabbit.

If you're talking the latest BBC adaptation, I think I lasted to partway through the second episode before giving up on it. Watch the 1978 movie instead, it's 137 times better (I calculated it very carefully).

[Anonymouswizard]

I've also heard that French/English translations just don't do well in general, but I only speak English, barely. Oddly, I've heard that German/English translations do much better since the languages are very close and the humor is easier to translate.

From my experiences with the Germans and the sexy enemy, the humor is the bigger factor there. Not that English isn't closer to German, but the German sense of humour is so close to the English that I've honestly never had to explain a joke to a German.

Also German accents are adorable.

If you're talking the latest BBC adaptation, I think I lasted to partway through the second episode before giving up on it. Watch the 1978 movie instead, it's 137 times better (I calculated it very carefully).

Which clearly makes the book (which I am currently reading) 323 times better. But I have fond memories of seeing the film when I was twelvish, I really need to relocate it.

In all seriousness I'm finding myself hating what's been done to Bigwig, and I'm not overly impressed with Holly. Fiver though is not bad, and the main problem is that it's just not as good as the old film or the book. If those didn't exist it would be okay, but they do exist.

[factotum]

Which clearly makes the book (which I am currently reading) 323 times better. But I have fond memories of seeing the film when I was twelvish, I really need to relocate it.

It's available for streaming on Amazon--it's even free if you have Prime, just checked.

[Anonymouswizard]

It's available for streaming on Amazon--it's even free if you have Prime, just checked.

Ah, good, maybe I'll watch it tonight. Got to relax after work somehow.

[truemane]

Don't envy it for long, now I really wanna see that!

Your opinions on Anchorman make me want to fight you in the streets, but I envy you the joy of seeing Cold as Ice for the first time. It is, without a doubt, the second best bad pop-rock movie ever.

The BEST bad pop-rock movie is, of course, Purple Rain.

[Mith]

Since late May, I've been working on writing code to do data analysis of water temperature in a river to detect and analysis Super-Cooling (water drops below freezing, and ice forms in the river).

Yesterday I compiled everything into one script with the main functions and sub function list*. It came out to just over 2,100 lines of code. Accounting for comments, white spacing and the function I took from a file share, it adds up to my personal work coming to around 1,600 lines of code generated through trial and error through 3 months of ~60 hours a week.

TLDR: I am damn well taking today off to enjoy the sunshine.

[Peelee]

Your opinions on Anchorman make me want to fight you in the streets

If we do, I call dibs on Brick. Just because I didn't laugh doesn't mean I didn't pay attention.

[truemane]

If we do, I call dibs on Brick. Just because I didn't laugh doesn't mean I didn't pay attention.

No deal.

He hit a man with a trident.

[Peelee]

No deal.

He hit a man with a trident.

I actual kind of want to re-watch that movie now and see if I like it any better, because I did giggle at that just now. No small part of my intense, burning rage at it was the trailer I saw was, IIRC, composed entirely of scenes cut from the final movie, so not only did they advertise a movie I didn't see, those bits actually were funny! Slap in the face, I tells ya!

I'll never re-watch Elf, though. That movie can stay in the dumpster where it belongs.

[Bartmanhomer]

I think New York City have a blackout.

[Peelee]

I think New York City have a blackout.

What, really? Be careful, dude!

[Bartmanhomer]

What, really? Be careful, dude!

I did call all my friends who live in that area and they have electricity at their house. My home doesn't have any electricity at all.

[Teddy]

Since late May, I've been working on writing code to do data analysis of water temperature in a river to detect and analysis Super-Cooling (water drops below freezing, and ice forms in the river).

Yesterday I compiled everything into one script with the main functions and sub function list*. It came out to just over 2,100 lines of code. Accounting for comments, white spacing and the function I took from a file share, it adds up to my personal work coming to around 1,600 lines of code generated through trial and error through 3 months of ~60 hours a week.

TLDR: I am damn well taking today off to enjoy the sunshine.

Hmm, reading this, I realise I completely lack a concept of how many lines of code one is expected to write per day. Doing the maths on your numbers, it seems like you had a speed of 2-2.5 lines per hour, which honestly doesn't sound very impressive, but I wouldn't be too surprised if some of my hardest projects have progressed about the same speed. It is, after all, hard to write code while reading documentation, and some weeks I do nothing but read documentation and other's code...

I did call all my friends who live in that area and they have electricity at their house. My home doesn't have any electricity at all.

Are there any lights on in your neighbour's houses? If so, check your circuit breaker, you might simply have suffered a ground fault.

[SZbNAhL]

I did call all my friends who live in that area and they have electricity at their house. My home doesn't have any electricity at all.

Are there any lights on in your neighbour's houses? If so, check your circuit breaker, you might simply have suffered a ground fault.

There's definitely a real power cut in parts of New York.

[Bartmanhomer]

Hmm, reading this, I realise I completely lack a concept of how many lines of code one is expected to write per day. Doing the maths on your numbers, it seems like you had a speed of 2-2.5 lines per hour, which honestly doesn't sound very impressive, but I wouldn't be too surprised if some of my hardest projects have progressed about the same speed. It is, after all, hard to write code while reading documentation, and some weeks I do nothing but read documentation and other's code...



Are there any lights on in your neighbour's houses? If so, check your circuit breaker, you might simply have suffered a ground fault.

There's definitely a real power cut in parts of New York.

We got electricity again and was very short lived too. Yay!

[Anonymouswizard]

Hmm, reading this, I realise I completely lack a concept of how many lines of code one is expected to write per day. Doing the maths on your numbers, it seems like you had a speed of 2-2.5 lines per hour, which honestly doesn't sound very impressive, but I wouldn't be too surprised if some of my hardest projects have progressed about the same speed. It is, after all, hard to write code while reading documentation, and some weeks I do nothing but read documentation and other's code...

I remember learning that the ideal coding speed is about 2-3 lines every hour, because of everything else you have to do (in my experience that's getting it to actually compile, but I don't code for a living).

I still remember learning to code at university. I actually got annoyed at how difficult it was to format columns with cout due to being so used to printf.


So I rewatched Watership Down yesterday, and it's still a great film. The animation is beautiful, the story is streamlined, and scenes aren't actioned up compared to the book (I'm looking at you BBC rivet crossing!). Plus the casting is great, everybody sounds right, and the bunnies are properly bunny-like. And Bigwig is his calm, Hazel-supporting but experienced self.

I give it four out of uncountable stars.

[Mith]

Hmm, reading this, I realise I completely lack a concept of how many lines of code one is expected to write per day. Doing the maths on your numbers, it seems like you had a speed of 2-2.5 lines per hour, which honestly doesn't sound very impressive, but I wouldn't be too surprised if some of my hardest projects have progressed about the same speed. It is, after all, hard to write code while reading documentation, and some weeks I do nothing but read documentation and other's code...

That's just what survived my numerous "I'l just purge this section and re write it."

Considering I only started serious coding in January, (grad course requiring software to be built), I really appreciate this response.

[halfeye]

I remember hearing once that the average for fully debugged and documented code was something like 4 lines per day.

I don't think I've ever come across anyone that slow, but I don't think I've ever come across fully debugged and documented code either, not that I've seen a lot of code.