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2022-02-06, 09:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Hero Oh Hero
Sure there were other ways to handle it. But none better. Even if the uncle hadn't been part of the conspiracy, trying to take the staff is treason. Getting your hair burnt off is a mild punishment for that crime, and should hopefully warn others to not even try it.
Basically a subordinate tries to handcuff her (stealing the staff is about that for Piper).
So seems a bit silly to think politely instructing the person not to do so would lead to anything but getting captured.thnx to Starwoof for the fine avatar
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2022-02-06, 10:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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I mean, considering the chapter started with "the castle was on fire and it was
not[Piper's] fault", she might've overreacted just a tad, but the general course of action isn't exactly wrong.
Meanwhile on Noah's arc, those are probably friendly creeply thin and tall monsters who make shadows fall towards the light. Entirely harmless.
Just look at them smile."If it lives it can be killed.
If it is dead it can be eaten."
Ronkong Coma "the way of the bookhunter" III Catacombium
(Walter Moers "Die Stadt der träumenden Bücher")
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2022-02-06, 11:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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http://www.neorice.com/hoh_2334
Pictured: remarkable restraint.Hark! An avatar drawn by Kate Beaton!
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2022-02-06, 07:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-02-07, 04:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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http://www.neorice.com/hoh_2337
Here you see another mistake she made.
First, take a look at the last two panels. That's not her mistake, it's just to establish some facts. Reichfelt betrays he knows about Piper's entourage, and that makes Piper notice he wasn't supposed to know that by himself, proving that he's complicit in the conspiracy. Because Piper hadn't told him about Pablo and Burk before.
Now that this is covered, move back to the first two panels. Reichfelt talks about "spreading unfounded nonsense" and this doesn't cause the reaction that happens in the last two panels. Therefore, Piper has told him before about the content of the message she wanted to send through the lighthouse. Despite knowing that her cousin may have been in on the conspiracy.
From that we can basically reconstruct what happened: Piper arrives, announces she wants to use the lighthouse, she's asked why, she doesn't make up an innocuous-looking lie as the reason but instead reveals that She Knows Too Much, Reichfelt gives the order to try to grab her staff, and as a result Piper must now BURN EVERYTHING, which was presumably her intent in the first place.Hark! An avatar drawn by Kate Beaton!
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2022-02-07, 06:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Hero Oh Hero
Pictured: remarkable restraint.
Here you see another mistake she made.
First, take a look at the last two panels. That's not her mistake, it's just to establish some facts. Reichfelt betrays he knows about Piper's entourage, and that makes Piper notice he wasn't supposed to know that by himself, proving that he's complicit in the conspiracy. Because Piper hadn't told him about Pablo and Burk before.
Now that this is covered, move back to the first two panels. Reichfelt talks about "spreading unfounded nonsense" and this doesn't cause the reaction that happens in the last two panels. Therefore, Piper has told him before about the content of the message she wanted to send through the lighthouse. Despite knowing that her cousin may have been in on the conspiracy.
From that we can basically reconstruct what happened: Piper arrives, announces she wants to use the lighthouse, she's asked why, she doesn't make up an innocuous-looking lie as the reason but instead reveals that She Knows Too Much, Reichfelt gives the order to try to grab her staff, and as a result Piper must now BURN EVERYTHING, which was presumably her intent in the first place.
What other matters of precognition or hindsigt do you want Piper to have done, now people disagreed with your claim she should have politely protested when attacked.
Instead of defending herself?
For a start some jerks put a deadly force bounty on her head. She has an extremely valid reason to be angry.
And it seems unlikely she would have been allowed to use the Lighthouse anyway, if Reichfelt was in the conspiracy. At least this way she got him to reveal himself.
Instead of getting ambushed at closer range.thnx to Starwoof for the fine avatar
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2022-02-07, 09:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Continuing to shoot at people who are fleeing from you while taunting them is indeed a remarkable form of restraint.
It's more that she's lacking in postcognition and foresight.
She knew Reichfelt was on the list of suspects.
http://neorice.com/hoh_1266
She knew also they had to lie about their motives, hence the whole Sabrina persona and pretending to be tourists.Last edited by Gez; 2022-02-07 at 09:58 AM.
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2022-02-07, 07:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-02-08, 07:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Hero Oh Hero
Is hoh slow to load for everyone else also the last couple days?
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2022-02-10, 05:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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The JSP leader seems a bit trigger happy. He isn't entirely wrong for asking, but it's the wrong moment.
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2022-02-11, 12:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Hero Oh Hero
I feel like the right question to ask right now is why the hell did Noah think the sewers were safer than the rest of the city.
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2022-02-13, 07:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-02-13, 07:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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https://www.neorice.com/hoh_2247
"It might not sound like the most obvious suggestion but these nightmares seem to spawn near people... there's barely anyone down there"
Does that sound like an accurate description of the density of monsters they've encountered?
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2022-02-13, 06:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-02-18, 05:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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These are clearly the fake people that noel was talking about earlier, right?
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2022-02-18, 09:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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"If it lives it can be killed.
If it is dead it can be eaten."
Ronkong Coma "the way of the bookhunter" III Catacombium
(Walter Moers "Die Stadt der träumenden Bücher")
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2022-02-18, 10:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Hero Oh Hero
pretty unlikely Noel would not be able to spot fake people.
thnx to Starwoof for the fine avatar
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2022-02-18, 04:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Spoiler: Original FictionThe Lost Dragon: A story about a priest who finds a baby dragon in his church and decides to protect them.
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2022-02-19, 08:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Okay, so at least good old Theo is probably not a nightmare, being a known criminal and all that.
Jury's still out on the rest of the crowd.
Also, congratulations to getting named.
Now his death will actually mean something to the readers."If it lives it can be killed.
If it is dead it can be eaten."
Ronkong Coma "the way of the bookhunter" III Catacombium
(Walter Moers "Die Stadt der träumenden Bücher")
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2022-02-19, 12:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Why would he be? He couldn't tell anything was off with the cat.
And its a -lot- easier to make a believeable fake cat than a believeable fake person.thnx to Starwoof for the fine avatar
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2022-02-20, 12:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Why on Earth is Noel smirking non-stop on this page? What is he finding so amusing?
Also, I love how Noah seems to have BSOD'd (again). Then again, with his abilities (that he refuses to use) he could potentially seriously weaponise his existential angst.Times being what they are, the stars aligning and the End of All Things barely registered as background noise.
At a bit of a loss as to what to do next, and with bills to pay, a certain Elder Thing has taken up bartending.
This is...
The Last Call of Cthulhu
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2022-02-20, 02:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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No he couldn't
Wait, scratch that. I thought you were talking about Noah, not Noel (the Esper). Friggin similar names.Spoiler: I'm a writer!Spoiler: Check out my fanfiction[URL="https://www.fanfiction.net/u/7493788/Forum-Explorer"here[/URL]
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Procrastination: MLP
Spoiler: Original FictionThe Lost Dragon: A story about a priest who finds a baby dragon in his church and decides to protect them.
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2022-02-20, 12:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Hero Oh Hero
Why on Earth is Noel smirking non-stop on this page? What is he finding so amusing?
And his worst enemy did screw up so badly they might have to nuke a town.
(seriously. If not for plot armor i would personally have done so and called it a mercy).
Also, I love how Noah seems to have BSOD'd (again). Then again, with his abilities (that he refuses to use) he could potentially seriously weaponise his existential angst.
So far it seems he is a visitor.thnx to Starwoof for the fine avatar
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2022-02-23, 06:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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https://www.neorice.com/hoh_2358
Just noticed the shadow on the left in the last panel. Are the monsters already in the room?
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2022-02-23, 09:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-02-24, 03:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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... a dean that recognizes a random student on sight? Now I know this is a fantasy.
Times being what they are, the stars aligning and the End of All Things barely registered as background noise.
At a bit of a loss as to what to do next, and with bills to pay, a certain Elder Thing has taken up bartending.
This is...
The Last Call of Cthulhu
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2022-02-24, 05:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Hero Oh Hero
Okay, the JSP is done being "nice".
So are they correct? Noel did send them (and Nail) towards the monsters and later said they were attracted to sound, causing his group to abandon the JSP.
Also it seems Nail is dead? Dead as a doornail?
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2022-02-24, 07:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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I think that whatever Nail is is harder to kill than most humans, so even if he's wounded I doubt he's down for the count.
As for the JSP, yeah this is what happens when you give people the right to summarily execute people. It's generally speaking a bad thing to give anyone that kind of power. Then again, this is the group that had orders to nuke the city without hesitation so on a rather grim level they are still playing nice. Disturbing thought.Sanity is nice to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.
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2022-02-25, 07:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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I find it not entirely impossible Nail is one of the sentient automaton we heard off earlier.
His secrecy and lack of spirit at least hint towards it.
... a dean that recognizes a random student on sight? Now I know this is a fantasy.
Also yeah. Increasingly shows the JSP is one of the biggest hindrances towards this mission.thnx to Starwoof for the fine avatar
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2022-02-25, 01:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Hero Oh Hero
Sadly they also have the nuke. Though hmm do they have a way to phone home during the mission? I forgot. If not someone could just kill these two off.