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2019-09-21, 06:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How does war caster work exactly?
The RAW is clear that you need a free hand to hold a focus and that that hand can also be used to do somatic components while being used. The reason it needs to clarify you need a free hand is to specify you need to be holding the focus rather than just have it on your person. I don't agree that the Sage Advice contradicts RAW at all so I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Also your concern about the specific wording. The SAC goes on to give an example for a mace and shield wielding cleric. If casting a spell with a somatic and material component they can cast while keeping hold of both ('If the spell, such as aid, also has a somatic component, she can perform that component with the shield hand' - note no mention of spending three turns doffing, casting then donning again). If a spell with only a somatic component they need to put away either mace or shield as they can no longer channel the somatic through their focus. I really don't see there's any room for argument about the intention here.Last edited by Contrast; 2019-09-21 at 06:24 PM.
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2019-09-21, 06:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How does war caster work exactly?
Referring to Sage Advice for RAI is like hunting a skeletal horse for a prime steak: It's just not going to work.
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2019-09-21, 08:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-09-21, 09:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How does war caster work exactly?
And the reason why it's counterintuitive that you can't cast S-no-M spells while holding a couple of wands is that, ordinarily, casting SM spells restricts you more than casting S spells. Nobody would expect that adding a component would ever make it easier to cast a spell.
Time travels in divers paces with divers persons.
—As You Like It, III:ii:328
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Current Homebrew: 5th edition psionics
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2019-09-22, 12:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How does war caster work exactly?
Indeed. My group doesn't stress that detail. While we adhere to most rules, we tweak things occasionally in favor of story and coolness.
But I know some people are more interested in the mechanical details.
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2019-09-22, 01:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How does war caster work exactly?
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2019-09-22, 06:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How does war caster work exactly?
Slight off-topic, since the OP was looking for what is, but at our table we just take the required components to be a minimum.
So if you want you can add a M component to a S only spell (which would let you use a foci), or a V component to any spell you want to shout, but if it's got a listed component you need at least that.
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2019-09-22, 02:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-09-22, 02:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How does war caster work exactly?
So you have to wave the component around instead of just holding it... that doesn't change much.
M-only spell is holding your phone in your hand, SM spell is writting a text on a phone with single hand, and S-only spell is trying to communicate with someone using sign language... impossible to do while holding a phone at the same time.It's Eberron, not ebberon.
It's not high magic, it's wide magic.
And it's definitely not steampunk. The only time steam gets involved is when the fire and water elementals break loose.
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2019-09-22, 02:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How does war caster work exactly?
and of course all S/M spells have different S components, waving the fingers instead of waving a focus, when you use a Metrial component instead of a focus.
S components are abstract, but it seems weird logic that every caster learns two S-casting version of any spell with an M component.
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2019-09-22, 03:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How does war caster work exactly?
You learn the waving-around-the-actual-material-component version (or flicking/pointing/raising-to-the-sky/whatever). Having the Spellcasting Focus class feature means you can substitute an appropriate focus for the mat component (provided it has an unlisted cost, isn't consumed during the casting, etc. etc.), which is likely done by waving (etc.) said focus around using similar motions.
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2019-09-22, 10:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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