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    RangerGuy

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    Default Persisted Divine Meta Magic and Familiars

    I am Divine Caster with a familiar via the Mystic WAnderer Prestige Class. If I can cast a DMM Persisted Spell on me while my familiar is near does the spell expire after the familiar moves away or does it stay persisted?

    Thanks.

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    Ogre in the Playground
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    Default Re: Persisted Divine Meta Magic and Familiars

    The spell would expire if your familiar moves more than 5 feet away from you, as per the text of the Share Spells ability. Persistent Spell wouldn't affect this; it changes the duration, but Share Spells doesn't care what the duration is if it's not instantaneous.
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    RangerGuy

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    Default Re: Persisted Divine Meta Magic and Familiars

    Quote Originally Posted by InvisibleBison View Post
    The spell would expire if your familiar moves more than 5 feet away from you, as per the text of the Share Spells ability. Persistent Spell wouldn't affect this; it changes the duration, but Share Spells doesn't care what the duration is if it's not instantaneous.
    That tracks. Thanks.

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    Lizardfolk

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    Default Re: Persisted Divine Meta Magic and Familiars

    I think it's worth mentioning, for clarity, that the spell only ends for the familiar. The spell on you keeps going.
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    Troll in the Playground
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    Default Re: Persisted Divine Meta Magic and Familiars

    You might check out the Enspell Familiar feat, which extends the range of a shared spell from 5' to 1 mile.

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    RangerGuy

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    Default Re: Persisted Divine Meta Magic and Familiars

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthrowhale View Post
    You might check out the Enspell Familiar feat, which extends the range of a shared spell from 5' to 1 mile.
    Will do. That's pretty insightful. Thanks.

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    Ogre in the Playground
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    Default Re: Persisted Divine Meta Magic and Familiars

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthrowhale View Post
    You might check out the Enspell Familiar feat, which extends the range of a shared spell from 5' to 1 mile.
    Which is honestly such a power hike compared to the PHBII's Companion Spellbond feat for animal companions which goes from 5' to 30'.

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    Titan in the Playground
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    Default Re: Persisted Divine Meta Magic and Familiars

    Especially since you can pretty much always bring a familiar with you in your pocket, but you'll often need to be separated more than that from an animal companion. A grizzly bear probably isn't coming into Waterdeep with you, and even if you've got something civilized like a horse, how far is your room from the inn's stables?
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