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Thread: Why Beguiler?
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2007-12-23, 09:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Why Beguiler?
I've seen a good number of builds out there that have magic users taking their first level in Beguiler and I honestly can't tell why. I've taken a glance at the class once or twice and it didn't seem to have anything that would help out on a magic user build. At first I assumed it was the armor use Beguilers get, but it specifically states that that ability doesn't work with magic from other classes. Is it something else or am I simply being dumb and not seeing the obvious?
Also, I'm apparently now a halfling in the playground!Last edited by graymachine; 2007-12-23 at 09:50 PM. Reason: Celebration
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2007-12-23, 09:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why Beguiler?
Partially because it's Int based, partially because it has access to a decent spell list, and partially because it has good skills.
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2007-12-23, 09:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why Beguiler?
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2007-12-23, 09:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why Beguiler?
Then they're probably either looking to get a decent selection of level 1 spells that they don't have to have wizard casting for, or they're after the skill set for PrC qualification. Which build confused you?
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2007-12-23, 10:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Apr 2006
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Re: Why Beguiler?
You may be looking at Ultimate Magus builds; the PrC requires (and advances) both prepared and spontaneous casting, and a single spontaneous casting level combined with the feat Practiced Spellcaster can work the system to make it a really potent class.
Last edited by Merlin the Tuna; 2007-12-23 at 10:01 PM.
Merlin the Tuna
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2007-12-23, 10:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why Beguiler?
Probably the build was for Ultimate Magus (CM).
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2007-12-23, 10:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why Beguiler?
Is one of those PrCs Ultimate Magus? That's a special combo PrC that advances Prepared and Spontaneous casting at once.
Beguiler is better for that because with a Beguiler/Wizard you can focus soley on Int, and not need to divert into Charisma.
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2007-12-23, 10:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why Beguiler?
Ah, that's what I get for not having an photographic memory. I don't remember all the PrCs.
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2007-12-23, 10:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why Beguiler?
It probably was for Ultimate Magus; I can't recall any particular build exactly, I just remember it being common.
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2007-12-23, 10:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why Beguiler?
dont forget about the handcross bow proficientcy, The most fun ever!!!
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2007-12-23, 10:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why Beguiler?
plus with that spells while wearing armour, you can still wear light armour and cast some good level 1 spells while I dunno, you could be a rogue or barbarian. If you're gonna be a light armour fighter, why not get a little bit of magic to back you up.
Heal yourself * Hurt yourself * Judge yourself
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2007-12-24, 08:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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2007-12-24, 09:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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