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    Default Arena Tournament, Round 45: Caleb Vestrit vs. Little Knife Guy

    Arena Tournament, Round 45: Caleb Vestrit vs. Little Knife Guy

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    Initiative:
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    EDIT: Starting at Y 11. With greatsword in hand.
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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Caleb Vestrit vs. Little Knife Guy

    initiative: (1d20+5)[25]

    Starting in B11.

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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Caleb Vestrit vs. Little Knife Guy

    Sorry bout the spoiler. I can't actually see you (pillar in the way) so you should have put that in a spoiler, not that it matters.

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    I shall move to F16 and hide (1d20+15)[34] as part of the movement.


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    ...But you have never given any bad advice as far as I have seen. Not to mention, unlike some other people I see around here, you actually know what your talking about.

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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Caleb Vestrit vs. Little Knife Guy

    Might as well do it now anyway, I think I'll find out soon enough...

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    Single move to Q 17.


    Round not done yet, LoS required.

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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Caleb Vestrit vs. Little Knife Guy

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    Little Knife Guy didn't figure in the -5 to hide because of movement, but Caleb's spot is -5 so there's no way he's going to see LKG.


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    Your question in the Waiting Room was answered. If your opponent doesn't have Cover or Concealment, he can't hide.

    No LoS.


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    Caleb walks into Q17 from the east.

    BTW, your took a -5 to that hide check. By my calculations, you moved 35'.
    Your Hide check is opposed by the Spot check of anyone who might see you. You can move up to one-half your normal speed and hide at no penalty. When moving at a speed greater than one-half but less than your normal speed, you take a -5 penalty. It’s practically impossible (-20 penalty) to hide while attacking, running or charging.


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    Move to F 18.


    End of round 1. Now would probably be a good time for LoS again.

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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Caleb Vestrit vs. Little Knife Guy

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    Yes I did, and forgot to add it. Sorry about that. My check is 5 lower than that (just barely....grr.)

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    I activate Travel Devotion, and ready an action to throw a dagger if he comes within 30' of me.


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    HP: 9
    AC: 18 touch: 16 FF: 13
    'ammo':10
    saves: 5/8/3
    locale: F16

    buffs: Travel Devotion 10/10
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    ...But you have never given any bad advice as far as I have seen. Not to mention, unlike some other people I see around here, you actually know what your talking about.

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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Caleb Vestrit vs. Little Knife Guy

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    Back up just a bit.

    LoS is established when Caleb enters F18 and sees LFG in F16. It is now the beginning of LFG's turn.
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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Caleb Vestrit vs. Little Knife Guy

    Sorry, I thought he was still allowing cover, because I did not see him move past Q17. That leads me to ask, is he still FF (he hasn't acted since he saw me, he just ended in the first square eliminating cover) or do I have to high tail it out of there?
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    ...But you have never given any bad advice as far as I have seen. Not to mention, unlike some other people I see around here, you actually know what your talking about.

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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Caleb Vestrit vs. Little Knife Guy

    Perhaps that should be spoilered, or at least explained, since I lack the information to decipher it at this moment? What is FF, by the way?

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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Caleb Vestrit vs. Little Knife Guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by SRD - Initiative
    Flat-Footed

    At the start of a battle, before you have had a chance to act (specifically, before your first regular turn in the initiative order), you are flat-footed. You can’t use your Dexterity bonus to AC (if any) while flat-footed. Barbarians and rogues have the uncanny dodge extraordinary ability, which allows them to avoid losing their Dexterity bonus to AC due to being flat-footed.

    A flat-footed character can’t make attacks of opportunity.
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    Flat-Footed

    A character who has not yet acted during a combat is flat-footed, not yet reacting normally to the situation. A flat-footed character loses his Dexterity bonus to AC (if any) and cannot make attacks of opportunity.
    So no, he is not flat-footed because he has acted since initiative.

    The first LoS check was in the middle of Caleb's turn. The information in your LoS check is correct. You then saw him move to his current position, ending his turn. Because you didn't have this information when you took your second turn, you may change you actions.
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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Caleb Vestrit vs. Little Knife Guy

    My actions then, revised.

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    I activate Travel Devotion, not sure if he would know this or not so it goes here just to be safe


    You see me go up towards the higher ground, and then at F8 turn right and go out of your sight.

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    I continue to H10 and hide ((1d20+10)[29], including the -5)

    Should've bought potions of invisibility
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonThelonious
    ...But you have never given any bad advice as far as I have seen. Not to mention, unlike some other people I see around here, you actually know what your talking about.

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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Caleb Vestrit vs. Little Knife Guy

    Round two - Caleb

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    Free actions to activate Whirling Frenzy and Longstrider shifter ability. Move to F7. By the way, can I continue this move after I get LoS? I still have 20 feet of movement left.


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    HP: 15/15
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    Rage x/6.
    Longstrider x/8.
    Weapon: +5/+5, 2d6+9/2d6+9
    Saves: Fort +4, Ref +5, Will +0.
    Landspeed: 75 feet.
    Location: F7

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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Caleb Vestrit vs. Little Knife Guy

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    No point in making the reactive spot check with a -5

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    No LoS, and yes you can, since you were asking for a reactive spot.

    FYI, when you gain LoS in the middle of a move, you can always change what you're doing at that point, so long as everything is legal. So it's easier to just state your intended destination. You could even decide your full route for a double move and just note that if LoS is established, you'll change your move from there. A ref can then stop you when you see your opponent, or end your turn if you don't. It makes things move a little faster.


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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Caleb Vestrit vs. Little Knife Guy

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    My apologies. Move to V9, and if I gain LoS at any point on my way there, I'll revise. Thanks for the heads-up.


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    HP: 15/15
    AC: Full 21, Touch 17, Flat 14.
    Rage 1/6.
    Longstrider 1/8.
    Weapon: +5/+5, 2d6+9/2d6+9
    Saves: Fort +4, Ref +5, Will +0.
    Landspeed: 75 feet.
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    Round not done yet.
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    When you get to H6 you see LKG in H10.

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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Caleb Vestrit vs. Little Knife Guy

    If you only had chosen a different route... By 5 feet.

    Ah, well. Move to H9.

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    HP: 15/15
    AC: Full 21, Touch 17, Flat 14.
    Rage 1/6.
    Longstrider 1/8.
    Weapon: +5/+5, 2d6+9/2d6+9
    Saves: Fort +4, Ref +5, Will +0.
    Landspeed: 75 feet.
    Location: H9


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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Caleb Vestrit vs. Little Knife Guy

    "Hmm, you kept up with me so far, how about now?"-free action speech

    I start to move down (south?), tumbling to avoid AoOs-(1d20+9)[10]

    Route is H11-G13 (end move 1, soft corner so I can take it), then I jump down, tumble check to reduce damage-(1d20+9)[25] (if necessary, it looks like it's less than 10') and you lose sight of me (again).

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    I make a move as a swift action to jump down (travel devotion) with the above tumble check if needed, then move to F11 and hide (1d20+15)[28] and ready an action to throw a knife if he comes within 30' of me (within LoE, of course).
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    ...But you have never given any bad advice as far as I have seen. Not to mention, unlike some other people I see around here, you actually know what your talking about.

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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Caleb Vestrit vs. Little Knife Guy

    Take your AoO. Stupid 1.
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    ...But you have never given any bad advice as far as I have seen. Not to mention, unlike some other people I see around here, you actually know what your talking about.

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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Caleb Vestrit vs. Little Knife Guy

    AoO:
    Attack - (1d20+8)[22] (1 BaB + 6 Str mod + 1 higher ground)
    Damage - (2d6+9)[12]

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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Caleb Vestrit vs. Little Knife Guy

    Was that it?

    In any event, this map was pretty much against you. I could see no good ways to utilize the sneak attack damage - no hiding places, really.

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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Caleb Vestrit vs. Little Knife Guy

    Yes, I was defeated. Should have remembered to buy potions of invisibility. I was also banking on my relatively high AC and tumble checks to avoid getting hit, but alas they weren't high enough.

    Nit pick though: we were on level ground.
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    ...But you have never given any bad advice as far as I have seen. Not to mention, unlike some other people I see around here, you actually know what your talking about.

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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Caleb Vestrit vs. Little Knife Guy

    We were? Ah, well, I just figured that the whole thing was a big slope when I read that it was +10 feet in the up-section and -10 feet in down section.

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    It doesn't matter, you rolled 3 higher than you needed to (you needed an 11: above average). It's too bad too, since I was about to get a dagger thrown at you.
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    ...But you have never given any bad advice as far as I have seen. Not to mention, unlike some other people I see around here, you actually know what your talking about.

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    Default Re: Arena Tournament, Round 45: Caleb Vestrit vs. Little Knife Guy

    I have to say I'm sorry I didn't take Travel Devotion. I had all but forgotten it existed. Could've had 210 feet movement a round...

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