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2011-06-09, 10:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion V: Our Armies are Pants
It's okay, they're a part of the whole and they understand that since you are a part of the whole, that makes you the whole, which means that you are also them, and thus you are okay with your delusions of grandiosity, because otherwise you wouldn't be having those delusions in the first place.
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2011-06-09, 10:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion V: Our Armies are Pants
Yeah... This falls so squarely into that age old fallacy, I don't even have to give a description of why. Fallacy of Composition, read up please. Heck, the example given could exchange "souls" for cells and "primordial" for human and nearly be the argument.
Auto-kun is weird in that we know his fetich (the core) actually does serve as his mind, a situation we don't find among other primordials to the best of my knowledge. But other than that, it's very hard to say that any of his souls are more him than component organs or cells or the like. Basically, they are him, but he is not them.
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2011-06-09, 10:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion V: Our Armies are Pants
I'd imagine (ignoring that it's probably writer error anyway) that the reason why it's like that is because it was more efficient for him to partition his thoughts in such a manner. He's sick, probably a little irritable, and too busy to put up with his souls arguing with each other, so he just cuts most of them out of the loop entirely.
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2011-06-09, 10:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion V: Our Armies are Pants
Well, there's the fact that the current rules for Primordial are more like guidelines; yeah, they all have a fetich, except the Empheral Chaos, who had 2. Plus, Holden has said that Gaia wasn't exactly going to follow the rules, either. This method was eventually scrapped in favor of something completely different, but he's said that at one point a full stat-up of Gaia was going to be in Broken Winged Crane. In it, she didn't have a fetich. Instead, she had this weird balance, where each of the Elemental Dragons took on some of that responsibility, giving her a chaotic, unsettled nature. This was was also why she didn't make exalted herself; her nature was too much in flux to properly do it. Instead, her much more stable and cohesive 3rd circle souls we know as the Elemental Dragons did it.
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2011-06-09, 11:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion V: Our Armies are Pants
Other wise, we'd have Celestial level Dragon-Bloods equal in power to the Solars, but as wild and chaotic as a casteless Lunar and able to bend the elements to their wills....
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2011-06-09, 11:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-09, 11:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Huh. I always assumed that she didn't make Exalted herself because Sol is the ultimate liar. That sounds sort of like a cop-out, honestly. I mean, sure, there's a history of nature gods with multiple personalities, but having no fetich makes about as much sense as having two. I'm going to assume the logic was destroyed during the Three Spheres Cataclysm.
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2011-06-09, 11:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion V: Our Armies are Pants
Man, all the Primordials sure are Unique Special Snowflakes.
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2011-06-09, 11:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion V: Our Armies are Pants
He fears his fate too much, and his reward is small, who will not put it to the touch, to win or lose it all.
-James Graham, 1st Marquess of Montrose
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2011-06-09, 12:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-09, 12:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion V: Our Armies are Pants
Of course, you need to have Mask of Winters bragging about the super attack he deployed that will destroy all of Creation in five minutes... and have him do it for eight sessions straight.
Also, spend a solid three sessions with the circle supposedly fighting Mask of Winters by standing around in one place, all while saying how imperative it is that they must save Creation.
Plus, have the circle and Mask both agree to give this fight their all, and then reveal that Mask of Winters has been avoiding using his arms for that whole segment of fight.
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2011-06-09, 12:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-09, 12:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-09, 12:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion V: Our Armies are Pants
Hey now, that all was the original smoke
The new one is a lot shorter with no filler.
I was thinking more like a high action game.
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2011-06-09, 12:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-09, 12:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion V: Our Armies are Pants
It's Exalted. That would actually make a lot of sense.
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2011-06-09, 12:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-09, 12:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-09, 12:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion V: Our Armies are Pants
Again, a ton of filler was cut. This includes the episodes where they meet the mirror ship, land on faux-namek, and almost all the parts of Goku in space.
And seeing how anime helped influence a lot of Exalted, there isn't much to change. It sounds more like you simply don't like DBZ and nothing I say will change that.
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2011-06-09, 12:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion V: Our Armies are Pants
Glories: Luna, while possibly written in that way to depict Luna as somewhat paranoid, says that pretty much no one other than her likes Gaia and are actually afraid of her. I'm assuming this would include Sol since the Geas would still make him subservient to her, and he doesn't have an army of Exalts to back him up anymore. When it came time to power up the blank Exaltations back in the day, I don't have any trouble believing he would use his perfectness to convince Gaia to make inferior ones.
As far as the fetich situation goes, it's supposed to be the single most defining element of a Primordial, so much so that killing it reshapes the whole thing into something else entirely. Gaia not having one both doesn't make sense in that something most certainly is her most defining feature, even if it's specifically that her most defining feature is a constant state of flux; even Oramus has a fetich.
As far as the Empyreal Chaos goes, they're just saying he's a +1 Primordial; I doubt there was any thought behind it.
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2011-06-09, 01:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-09, 01:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-09, 01:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-09, 01:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-06-09, 01:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion V: Our Armies are Pants
That's an interesting question.
Let's see, how about when our group took on the Mask of Winters, and all his undead forces, and his Abyssals, and Juggernaut? That took one session.
Unless you're referring to the amount of actual time we spent in combat with Mask of Winters. THAT took about two minutes.Last edited by TheCountAlucard; 2011-06-09 at 01:28 PM.
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2011-06-09, 01:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion V: Our Armies are Pants
How long was the session?
Also, was this the canon mask of winters, or a homebrewed one?He fears his fate too much, and his reward is small, who will not put it to the touch, to win or lose it all.
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2011-06-09, 01:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by TheCountAlucard; 2011-06-09 at 01:37 PM.
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2011-06-09, 01:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion V: Our Armies are Pants
Checking the wiki, the Namek saga took about 35 episodes from the time the blasted off from earth to the wrap up episode. That's an entire "story" for a game of Exalted.
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2011-06-09, 02:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Exalted Discussion V: Our Armies are Pants
Assuming it's about 20 minutes per episode (which seems fairly standard nowadays once you strip out ad time and the intro/extro), that's about 700 minutes all told, or 12 hours. That's about 3-4 sessions for my groups. Meh.
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2011-06-09, 02:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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