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2012-10-13, 01:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-13, 03:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Warlock Poetry?
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Better grab a drink...
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2012-10-13, 04:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-13, 06:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Not that I would mind seeing more of Shadow Gear but when were they ever said to be stealthy?
Did I mention how much I hate the spoilers every new FT opening has? Or maybe it's just because I know what will happen but still... It seems like it gives away half the plot twists.
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2012-10-13, 08:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Anime Filler:
SpoilerWell they demonstrated that Natsu has 7 years to catch up on sort of like when Goku was killed and he and the others had to undergo extreme training to prepare to meet Vegeta and his henchman the first time round!
Grandine and Edoras is explained with Wendy getting her Tome of Sky Dragon Buttkicking 2.0...
Gildartz demonstrates the fine art of how to avoid becoming the fifth Guildmaster by readmitting Laxus and then making Makarov the sixth Guildmaster!
An interesting episode, looks like it'll be a couple of episodes before Sabertooth gets introduced again.
By the way was it Sting or Rogue who ate that arrow?
So he's a Wood Dragon Slayer then?
Explains the buttkicking he's going to get!
Fire never loses to wood!
Oi I had a premonition of all the bad jokes that is going to inspire!
Manga Filler:
SpoilerHmm not thinking quite straight isn't he?
Me upon not seeing Natsu in the fight look at the crowd if he isn't there assume he's heading off to rescue Lucy... ah well thats the advantage of a little foreknowledge isn't it?
So Team Exceed is heading to the rescue, at least if they need a distraction they can always throw Natsu at them!!!Last edited by Hopeless; 2012-10-13 at 08:06 AM.
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2012-10-13, 01:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Completely and utterly agreed. If someone in real life made that kind of threat I wouldn't stop beating on them until a) I was trashed into unconsciousness or b) the threat-maker had more broken bones than whole ones. Even comparing manliness or reputation to it at all is out of whack. Stating that manliness is somehow more important... that's just outright sick.
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2012-10-14, 12:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-14, 03:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Lord Khaine on the issue of Dragon Force; Do we know that it was Dragon Force itself or what Natsu ate to trigger it that actually created the major swing in power? Or that 3rd generation DS's Dragon Force operates identically other than being triggerable at will?
In the case of Dragon force being the desiding factor, then i mostly belive thats the case because its the only constant in Natsu's most extreme powerups in the fights vs Zero and Gerad.
As for the 3rd generations DF being identical, then based on Maevis's reaction upon seeing it i would think so, not that it wouldnt be weird otherwise.
I think what your missing is no one, not even the other members of Fairy Tail, expected Natsu to do as well as he did. Sure Sting and Rogue got hit hard with the Worf Effect, but the point it served was to show just how freaking strong Natsu has become.
And you can then also ask why Gajeel seemed to pretty much his equal after just 3 months of training.thnx to Starwoof for the fine avatar
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2012-10-14, 06:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Really... not that I want to ignore the disrespect toward Mirajane and Lisanna from Bacchus side but people keeping complain he'd threatened them with rape... it was smash talk. he didn't say "I will rape them", he made a stupid bet with Elfman who was stupid enough to to just ignore him. Not that what Bacchus did was okay but calling rape goes too far in my opinion.
No problem... I can see how Shadow Gear might imply stealth but... none of their abilities really match it. (Okay, they're not as flashy as others but even though) I just couldn't recall any instance of them being described as the stealthy ones. FT doesn't do stealthy, ever. I guess.
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2012-10-14, 06:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Actually, their abilities are pretty good for stealth, since they are so subtle. Moving very fast is stealthy enough in most cases, Levy can "write up" stuff to hide behind or draw attention, the same goes for the plants.
That said, FT has a very large cast and uses it a lot better than, say, Bleach or Naruto. They are all around, the at least show up at the background and they are relevant to the plot quite frequently. The author tends to give us reasons about why characters are not around and they usually make sense.
That's probably what I like most about FT - even though it is so wacky, it's also internally consistent. It's very much like One Piece in that regard.
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2012-10-14, 08:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-14, 02:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Oh the fact that he ate something ridiculously powerful (and in the battle with Zero chosen to give him a massive power boost) isn't a common factor?
And thats not to mention we dont know anything about the proberties of the 2 widely different things he stuffed into his mouth, besides them being able to trigger Dragon Force.thnx to Starwoof for the fine avatar
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2012-10-14, 08:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-15, 02:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Avatar Credit: the very talented PseudoStraw. Full image:Spoiler
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2012-10-15, 04:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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That's because when natsu eats flames with too much energy he goes into an overcharged state allowing him to vent off more magic through dragon force and generally be awesome. All flames restore his mana, but some flames restore too much. One problem is the desity of the magic (flames). Once he eats flames that are too dense Natsu has problems digesting them, providing 'interesting' side effects.
Warlock Poetry?
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Better grab a drink...
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2012-10-15, 03:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Then what happened when he ate God-Slayer flames? During which he didn't go Dragon Force.
Not to mention that it was specificly mentioned how Godslayer flames did not behave or act like normal fire.
You keep saying this and I see no proof. From all the evidence we have saying Natsu get's powered up (instead of just having his mana refilled) when he eats fire seems to be self evident.thnx to Starwoof for the fine avatar
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2012-10-15, 03:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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But it gave him a boost. And are your really saying that what he ate in the other two cases behaved liked normal fire?
Edit For Clarity: If as you stated, Natsu can't get a boost from eating something powerful except by it triggering Dragon Force, how do you explain Natsu getting stronger after eating Zancrow's Godslayer flames?Last edited by jindra34; 2012-10-15 at 04:13 PM.
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2012-10-16, 07:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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But it gave him a boost. And are your really saying that what he ate in the other two cases behaved liked normal fire?
Edit For Clarity: If as you stated, Natsu can't get a boost from eating something powerful except by it triggering Dragon Force, how do you explain Natsu getting stronger after eating Zancrow's Godslayer flames?thnx to Starwoof for the fine avatar
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2012-10-16, 07:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-16, 07:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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2012-10-19, 07:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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New Chapter
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So Mavis had an strategy all planed out... my guess is waiting for the ranks to thin a bit and going for the big guys of other teams who at that point would be at least slightly winded while also increasing the chances of finding the leaders of the teams and thus getting more points. Here hoping for a really badass fight.
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2012-10-19, 07:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Bacchus continues to be a butt monkey. So much for Erza's equal =x.
The tactics seem counterproductive, also. It's not like eliminating Quattro Puppy members or some of the weaker ones in other teams will actually be exhausting for Sabertooth, Jura, or Kagura; the only thing that FT misses out on is free points from easily eliminated enemies.
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2012-10-19, 08:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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New chapter and answer at ^
Spoilerwell, let's say magic is based on resource (I know DS magic is a bit weird that way). The other guilds spend resources and level the playing field. this has 2 advantages: 1. you will keep more resources for the fights that are tougher, 2. you decrese the chances of being ambushed. Now when the field is a bit level, once everyone is engaged in a fight you can start sweeping the floor with those battles taking everyone out while they are busy. since natsu isn't present it would work because of cool thought, calculated measure and using your brain while fighting. (one side benefit: you can pick your fights and actually pit your strengths against their weaknesses)Last edited by Socratov; 2012-10-19 at 08:24 AM.
Warlock Poetry?
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2012-10-19, 09:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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@^:
That makes sense in a match where The goal is to be the last man standing (like in a normal tRPG). However, point are earned in this event for defeating enemies, and the only differential between strong and weak mages is that the leader is worth 5 points. Thus, taking out Novally, Leon, or Sting is worth the exact same amount, and it is to any guild's advantage to farm the weak members first for points.
Also, none of the strong hitters are fighting each other at the moment. Saber is even specifically not going for Jura/Kagura, and from the actions of the other leaders they are likely thinking the same. It's really only luck and author fiat that Saber only managed to farm Bracchus - if they took out some of the weaker mermaids and puppies as well they'd be starting the showdown with a 10+ point lead.
Bottom line is, the strong hitters are avoiding each other and farming easy points, which Fairy Tail is missing out on. Taking out the two weaker Plamias isn't going to make Kagura any worse off if she then faces, say, Erza.
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2012-10-19, 12:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Seems like they were waiting for the other teams to split up so they could swoop in and defeat the other team leaders as a group presumably all the while knowing where the other team leaders will be due to the predictions.
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2012-10-19, 05:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Called Dragon-God Slayer's Brilliant Flame. A more powerful version of an already seen attack that he could not have performed without prior eating of Zancrow's attack. How do you not call that a boost?
He just returned Zancrows own attack back with a bit of additional spin, try and compare the situation to when Natsu actualy got a boost.
(what i mean is that its Zancrowns attack that got a boost, from Godflame to Dragongod flame, not Natsu)
Anyway, new chapter out, and surprisingly enough team Natsu actualy got a decent plan for getting to LucyLast edited by lord_khaine; 2012-10-19 at 05:31 PM.
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2012-10-19, 06:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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So using an attack that was, until he ate it, overpowering his own flames and powering it up at the same time doesn't count as a boost? And also if you are not willing to consider that a boost may not entail Dragon Force then I feel you are being absolutely close minded.
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2012-10-20, 05:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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So using an attack that was, until he ate it, overpowering his own flames and powering it up at the same time doesn't count as a boost? And also
if you are not willing to consider that a boost may not entail Dragon Force then I feel you are being absolutely close minded.
Just to start with Natsu has gotten several boosts from Wendy.thnx to Starwoof for the fine avatar
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2012-10-20, 08:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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So eating, fulling internalising the energies of a spell, and then going and casting a spell using almost the exact same words and gestures he used when he used when he first cast it, makes the spell the one he ate.
I dont know where you get this part from, but its not something i have said.
Just to start with Natsu has gotten several boosts from Wendy.
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2012-10-20, 04:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Minor Question, just because I've not been paying attention:
SpoilerWho'se the princess in the last page of the new chapter saying to start the project that would end the world? Or is this a new charater alert?