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2013-02-27, 02:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #873 - The Discussion Thread
as a T1 class Cleric is OP on it's own. Being undead actually creates the issue of adding more vulnerabilities. Sure Malak gets some nifty powers being a vampire, but lets be honest here, they didn't make him a better Cleric, all they did was make him extra-vulnerable to the things a positive energy channeler can do.
And aren't a vast majority of a vampires serious abilities "touch" effects. That would explain why Malak made the mistake of getting into touch range with Durkon.- Everything I tell you is a Lie -
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2013-02-27, 02:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #873 - The Discussion Thread
Durkon badassery... I love it!
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2013-02-27, 02:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Nice perspective shot with the Thor's Lightning.
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2013-02-27, 02:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-02-27, 02:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #873 - The Discussion Thread
Huh. I didn't expect Durkon to be winning.
Then again, I didn't expect another comic so soon, either. I hope Sir Thumb's not overdoing it.Avatar by the Ninja Chocobo.
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2013-02-27, 02:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #873 - The Discussion Thread
Woah, comics are coming out really fast! And I'm loving it!
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2013-02-27, 02:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #873 - The Discussion Thread
Whoa! What's this? Two comics in as many days? Not that I don't love the speed but be careful that you don't strain yourself there, Giant. Maybe consider easing back into things?
Still, I love the Princess Bride feel of this fight.
But I KNEW you would put the poison in my cup, and therefor I switched cups, which you knew I would do, so you put the poison in your own cup, but I knew that you would know to do that, and so I did NOT switch the cups, which you undoubtedly predicted, and hence....Last edited by Deepbluediver; 2013-02-27 at 02:47 PM.
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2013-02-27, 02:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #873 - The Discussion Thread
I've just thought about it for a second. Malak can not die that easily (not ASOIAF after all). And his children problem is still not resolved. So what if Vaarsuvius suddenly rushes in, something happens that Malak mentions his children 'not being avenged' or something like that...
The rest is blurry, but I can imagine V doing something that would turn the outcome in another way. The thing is, V is already balancing on a rope with all the 'child' stuff.
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2013-02-27, 02:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #873 - The Discussion Thread
I love how quick these are coming out.
This fight is shaping up to be awesome! (Though not nearly as good as our first Battle of the Clerics ). Go get 'em Durkon!
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2013-02-27, 02:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #873 - The Discussion Thread
"And yet, will we ever come to an end of discussion and talk if we think we must always reply to replies? For replies come from those who either cannot understand what is said to them, or are so stubborn and contentious that they refuse to give in even if they do understand." - St. Augustine
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2013-02-27, 02:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-02-27, 02:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #873 - The Discussion Thread
Actually, now that I think of it, I wonder if we should have expected some awesomeness as soon as we realized Durkon was alone.
The Giant has discussed how the caster classes can dominate large fights if allowed to rampage unchecked, and specifically explained in War and XPs how he separated V during the Azure City battle so that V could cut loose without eclipsing the rest of the party.
So, having Durkon alone here might well have been an indication that clerics going all out against each other was the plan from the start, with the rest of the party out of the way to avoid complications or overshadowing other characters.
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2013-02-27, 02:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #873 - The Discussion Thread
Good stuff. I love cleric battles.
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2013-02-27, 02:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Does it explain why Durkon is the only cleric we've seen who wears armor and carries a decent melee weapon? Cause I'm still wondering about that, actually. Because I can't think and any good not-fluffy justifications (I live at the temple and don't adventure, etc etc etc).
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2013-02-27, 02:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #873 - The Discussion Thread
Alas, Belkar is still held, so he can't yet use his "class feature": Stab Undead.
Last edited by Dr. Gamera; 2013-02-27 at 03:22 PM. Reason: Decided "class feature" was a better description.
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2013-02-27, 02:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-02-27, 02:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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I think... I think he is going to spare Malack. Or V/Belkar will interrupt him to kill Malack. But I flippin' KNEW he was going to use heal! Battle ends now, Malack!
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2013-02-27, 02:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Hey, he was casting a negative energy spell, and had a good reason for it! Cool!
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2013-02-27, 02:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #873 - The Discussion Thread
Durkon can't kill Malack by reducing his HP to 0 - that will force him to gaseous form and force his retreat.
Sure hope Malack has a coffin nearby - oh, wait...
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2013-02-27, 02:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-02-27, 02:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #873 - The Discussion Thread
It would have to be his own, not just "a coffin".
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2013-02-27, 02:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #873 - The Discussion Thread
Malak would be more lethal, but he explains that in this comic: "It is fairly difficult for a Vampire Cleric to find appropriate challenges." Vampirism is a +8 level adjustment, so if we assume that Malak is, say, a level or two higher than the Order (putting him somewhere between levels 13 and 15) he really doesn't earn much experience for anything below about CR 16-17. Durkon is a credible threat to him, but Malak probably wouldn't even get much XP from the fight because of how the XP system works.
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2013-02-27, 02:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #873 - The Discussion Thread
May I take the time to remind people that Heal is exactly as dangerous as Harm and that Clerics get a good Will save (as well as high Wisdom), so it's a bit early to be declaring anybody dead?
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2013-02-27, 02:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #873 - The Discussion Thread
Ah, you're righ! I had totally forgotten about the cleric of Loki. He should make a comeback one of these days. :P
I wasn't certain about the goblins, and if it was armor or just regular clothes. I certainly don't see them with a lot of weapons; maybe they just haven't needed to draw them.Last edited by Deepbluediver; 2013-02-27 at 02:57 PM.
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2013-02-27, 02:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #873 - The Discussion Thread
Nice echo of Malack's fight with Nale.
Also, that's three days in a row with comics. Dare I hope...Is this the Kickstarter reward? We were promised another round of daily comics, which would come without warning.Originally Posted by The Giant
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2013-02-27, 02:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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I love when strips come fast.
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2013-02-27, 02:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #873 - The Discussion Thread
"And yet, will we ever come to an end of discussion and talk if we think we must always reply to replies? For replies come from those who either cannot understand what is said to them, or are so stubborn and contentious that they refuse to give in even if they do understand." - St. Augustine
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2013-02-27, 02:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #873 - The Discussion Thread
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2013-02-27, 02:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #873 - The Discussion Thread
I warded the cat, too, in case you're wondering.
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2013-02-27, 02:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #873 - The Discussion Thread
Go, Durkon, go!