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2014-02-16, 02:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-02-16, 03:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Its Post Cyber Punk in the same way that every Punk-ish record made after 1977 is Post-punk. Eg, Post Cyber Punk is a relatively unnecessary term that only exists because of the also unnecessarily limiting definition of first wave Cyber Punk.
The actual effects of extremely powerful corporations after the 80s in real life turned out to be pretty disinteresting. Not that any company is as powerful as a fictional megacorp, not since the days of United Fruit or the British East India Company (the idea of companies overtly bullying governments was basically an out of date anachronism by the 1980s, but that doesn't stop MGS4 and Deus Ex:Human Revolution talking about PMCs like mercenaries are somehow so novel they could only arise in modern capitalist society).Last edited by Closet_Skeleton; 2014-02-16 at 03:23 PM.
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2014-02-16, 03:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-02-16, 06:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Politics aside...the 80's envisioned OmniCorp and Ares Macrotechnology. What we got was Wal-Mart and Apple.
Their effects/influence on the world might/likely breach the Politics line, so that's a good call....but you can't argue that what we have isn't far less interesting or overtly impressive than what was predicted.
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2014-02-16, 06:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-02-17, 02:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Oh there's no doubt they've had a huge effect, but as Glyphstone said, it doesn't make good action flick material. Robocop wouldn't be nearly as exciting if he was being sued by a company with an army of lawyers at its back. That said his ability to access and collate digital information directly would make him an awesome lawyer. If you were to upload court records to him he'd know every single precedent and loophole out there!
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2014-02-17, 02:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-02-17, 03:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-02-17, 10:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-02-17, 11:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-02-17, 01:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-02-17, 03:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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I've heard a lot of "It's not the same as Robocop, but it isn't bad either" from my friends so maybe I will see it when it hits the second-run theatres. I wouldn't mind being wrong in thinking it wasn't worth watching on the big screen.
Wow, you too? A friend and I had almost word-for-word that same idea!
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2014-02-19, 12:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Saw it a little while go. Can't really comment on the political themes without turning this into a real-world politics thread.
But one thing really stood out to me. Did anyone else get Equilibrium Vibes from Robocop? Like whoever did the Choreography for this movie either took the same source of inspiration for Robocop's gunfights, or was directly inspired by Gun Kata?If RPG's have taught me anything, it's that all social and economic problems of the world can be solved through murder.
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2014-02-22, 05:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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About this: The thing is that Mr. CEO didn't feel like he was in any personal danger at all, because he had absolute confidence that Murphy could not get past his red doodad. This is actually one of the parts of this film that is most similar to the original, where RoboCop was programmed with a similar inability to harm the bad guy (although of course I feel like the resolution of this problem was better handled in the original movie).
The one thing I don't understand is why they kept the one hand when they cut EVERYTHING else off? What was the point of having one human hand?Last edited by KillianHawkeye; 2014-02-22 at 05:15 AM.
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2014-02-22, 09:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-02-23, 09:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Mr. CEO has vastly more confidence in the infallibility of the company's programming software than I would have, but I guess that could just be his personality and beliefs.
That's exactly what it's for, actually. You even see that "in action" in the movie, with the mayor etc.
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2014-02-23, 09:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-02-24, 07:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah but those were just robots. This is a cyborg with a human brain. I work with software, something that novel I would definitely not be that certain about. I would want something like "if you try to attack/harm someone with red bracelet immediate self destruct" in the code. And even then I'd be wary of the human brain someone figuring out how to subvert the "harm" part of that.
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2014-02-24, 09:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by The Glyphstone; 2014-02-24 at 09:48 AM.
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2014-02-24, 10:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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See also, 'Complete Moron'. You're right, he's not a Software Engineer.
Which means that he has no idea whether there was an exception programmed in to deal with the possibility that an enemy combatant has managed to get their hands on a bracelet. Most likely there is an override that a human can trigger. But guess what - ROBOCOP IS STILL HUMAN.
Remember, we're not talking about the CEO just putting on the red bracelet and going about his normal business.
We're talking about him pulling a gun, waving it around, threatening both Robocop and the people he cares about, and taunting him to do something about it. If there were an enemy combatant exception in the system, you can bet your ass he just triggered it.
And even if there isn't an exception for enemy combatants programmed in - seriously. Nothing ever manufactured by human hands is foolproof, and anybody that purposefully engages in stupid, risky behavior expecting an automatic system to save them is simply too dumb to live. If you're told that glass windows on a skyscraper are shatterproof, do you honestly start throwing yourself at them to see if you can break through?Last edited by Olinser; 2014-02-24 at 01:22 PM.
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2014-02-24, 10:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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I suspect part of this decision was thematic. The point was that he didn't view Robocop AS human. He believed he was (and was treating him as) purely a thing, a product. He was dehumanizing him, and this could be argued to be part of the show-don't-tell presentation of such.
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