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2017-08-04, 11:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1088 - The Discussion Thread
That's funny... My rpg group name is The Order Of Look-Out-Roy-The-Vampire'S-Not-Really-Durkon!
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2017-08-04, 11:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1088 - The Discussion Thread
That's mainly because the other Gods will retaliate in kind if she breaks the rules and, with her lesser power base, she'd pretty surely lose. Even a Chaotic character can tell when the benefits of following the law outweigh the negatives and this is one such case.
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2017-08-04, 12:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1088 - The Discussion Thread
yeah, there's a massive difference between sticking to the rules because you feel you should or because you fear the consequences if you do
I would peg hel as NE
the f-HPOH is clearly LE, he enjoys screwing people over while simultaniously sticking within the rules too much to be anything else
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2017-08-04, 12:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-08-04, 12:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1088 - The Discussion Thread
On the other hand, Loki targeted Hel for a reason. I get the same feeling about the "bet" as I get from RC's three Xykon's ruse: that Loki crafted the bet knowing that Hel would instinctively believe that the implied rule ("the dwarves' won't know about the heroic death loophole") would be respected, just as RC expected the Paladins to believe the implied rule "One of the three is Xykon".
In other words, it looks like a bet, but it is not: it was a con. A con works best when the target is Legal.
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2017-08-04, 01:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1088 - The Discussion Thread
This may be just wishful thinking, but me thinks Durkon may have found a way to manipulate Durkula. Bravo Durkon!
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2017-08-04, 01:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-08-04, 01:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1088 - The Discussion Thread
Heh. This reminds me of something from the last book.
The current page showed that Durkula is starting to be on guard against Durkon. He's ready to believe that Durkon is lying or omitting the truth at any moment.
What do you do when someone is completely invested in the idea you're trying to lie?
Double bluff.Even the wind will know agony.
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2017-08-04, 01:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-08-04, 01:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-08-04, 02:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1088 - The Discussion Thread
Durkon cannot show false memories, but the vampire (Greg?) is influenced by them.
The first memories Greg absorbed were the "lowest, darkest moments of the host's life", where it was clear that Durkon had unresolved resentment toward those that exiled him. But now Greg is learning the moments where Durkon is happy with his family and has real affection for them.
Greg even acknowledged that a different vampire could have rejected Hel's plans from the start (same comic as the above link, last line), so I think it is possible that Greg could rebel against Durkon, too.
I think that the big reveal will not be a monster or an ambush, but Durkon's family. If Greg ever tries to attack Durkon's Mom, it may be enough for the real Durkon to regain control.
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2017-08-04, 02:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1088 - The Discussion Thread
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2017-08-04, 02:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1088 - The Discussion Thread
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2017-08-04, 04:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-08-04, 05:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1088 - The Discussion Thread
Agreed. Un*Durkon would, if he could, just "Yarf"
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2017-08-04, 06:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1088 - The Discussion Thread
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2017-08-04, 09:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-08-04, 11:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1088 - The Discussion Thread
I don't think hel instinctively believed there to be such a rule but that she was too blinded by the price on offer to notice that loophole
hel strikes me as being quite greedy and arrogant which already really makes her the perfect target for a con, the best targets are those who think they're smarter then you
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2017-08-05, 01:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1088 - The Discussion Thread
Indeed. Thinking you're too smart to fall for a con is one of the easiest ways TO fall for a con. That said, even if someone IS smart, that has little to do with how easy they are to con. That all depends on how many emotions and desires of theirs can be exploited and played on. In Hel's case. it was Greed, but almost every emotion can be exploited in one way or another. You just need the right message...Sorry for the tangent. I've read up on how con artists work and it's chilling stuff.
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2017-08-05, 02:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1088 - The Discussion Thread
Nah, I'm sure they can, but they probably taste terrible and are less satisfying than a living being getting drunk.
Actually, the best cons are the ones where the victim cons themself or are based on laziness of the victims (See: Frank Abagnale's many cons)
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2017-08-05, 10:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1088 - The Discussion Thread
OK, I have to take issue with this. I don't think his cons were based on people being lazy, rather than people simply believing what they were presented with. And Abagnale (Jr., btw) was a freaking master of knowing what people would expect and presenting that to them For instance, he once got a security officer's uniform, went to a bank's night deposit box, hung an "out of order" sign on it, and spent the night getting envelopes of cash from people who came up, saw the box ostensibly out of order, saw the night guard put there to make sure people could still make night deposits, and didn't give it a second thought. Because we all trust strangers with a lot more of our information than any of us really care to think about.
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2017-08-05, 03:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1088 - The Discussion Thread
No wonder they're so bitter then. What's a dwarf of any kind if it can't get drunk?
"I'm done Roy! What do you think?"
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I have to wonder, actually. If vampires are incapable of growth or connecting the dots like this, then would Greg have suspected anything if Durkon actually somehow gave him false information like that?
Whatever the case, Durkon is definitely trying some misdirection now, and it's fantastic. It makes me wonder if he'll learn some new tactical approach for battles if he ever gets revived. Regardless, I still happy that he's back in "the game" in his own way.
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2017-08-05, 07:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1088 - The Discussion Thread
Everything Durkon has shown to Durkula/HPOH/Gr*g has been a false memory because it's always been in third person. And no, OOTS characters do not see from the perspective of the fourth wall:
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0843.html
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0948.html
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0987.html
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2017-08-05, 08:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1088 - The Discussion Thread
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the third-person perspective in literally every memory ever shown in the comic is to make following the memory easier for readers, rather than evidence the memory is false or fabricated. Unless you're just being pedantic about it technically not being what was experienced, in which case carry on
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2017-08-05, 08:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1088 - The Discussion Thread
“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2017-08-05, 08:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1088 - The Discussion Thread
Dwarven blood? I hear it's at least 20-proof even when they're sober.
Well, if you can't fit a banquet hall inside the strongest fortifications, the next-best thing is to have a banquet hall in easy fleeing distance of those fortifications.
If we're going outside the full casters, we might as well skip straight to rangers and paladins (who need every ability score except for Intelligence and Charisma/Dexterity, and only get 4th-level spells).
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All memories are false memories, to one extent or another. That's just how the brain works. The question is, can Durkon show things as he doesn't remember them? And the answer is "No".
If you're citing sources, you're probably serious.
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2017-08-05, 08:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-08-05, 10:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-08-05, 10:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1088 - The Discussion Thread
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2017-08-05, 11:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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False. See here.
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