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    Your barbarian can have a 24 strength at level 20, picking up a bus and throwing it isn't that far off at that point.... Yes I am sure that someone will run the numbers and tell me that you are still , in fact, way away from a bus, but I would prefer to live in my fantasy world :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puh Laden View Post
    According to google you would need at least three goliath/orcish level 20 barbarians just to lift a smart car.

    (Smart car weight = 1800 lbs., 24 strength * 15 * 2 for racial = 720)
    Well, if they are pure bear barbarians, you'd only need two, thanks to their aspect of the beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jas61292 View Post
    Well, if they are pure bear barbarians, you'd only need two, thanks to their aspect of the beast.
    With a block and tackle you'd only need one. Items and preparedness for the win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy_Lee View Post
    With a block and tackle you'd only need one. Items and preparedness for the win.
    That kinda defeats the purpose, doesn't it? Wasn't the idea to be able to lift a car and then maybe throw it on someone?
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    Would a Goliath Barb/Primeval Ranger be able to hurl cars at people in his tree form? Str limited to 20 in this case, but I would think that gaining a size would help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn View Post
    Would a Goliath Barb/Primeval Ranger be able to hurl cars at people in his tree form? Str limited to 20 in this case, but I would think that gaining a size would help.
    With Powerful Build, a 20 STR, Huge size (Large from Primeval, and then have the Wizard cast enlarge on you)...2,400 pounds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DracoKnight View Post
    With Powerful Build, a 20 STR, Huge size (Large from Primeval, and then have the Wizard cast enlarge on you)...2,400 pounds?
    A Fiat 500 weighs about that much.

    So... small, compact cars.

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    And that's just casual carrying capacity. Not max impulse you could do.

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    a bear barb with 24 str can carry 720lbs
    give it powerfull build (goliath) and double that
    enhance ability : Strength, double that as well
    enlarge it, double that as well

    all of that give us a grand total 5760lbs for carry weaight (you can go with this all day without flinching a bit).
    a car weight an average of 4000 Lbs so you could definitely throw cars.
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    and if they ever release the skill feats, your DM may let you apply the brawny feat bonus too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eragon123 View Post
    I love this. Finally it will be possible to do a Lysander Sage build (From Charlie Bone). I mean I guess you could go cleric but that has a whole lot of other features that don't really go well.
    Oh man I didn't know anyone else read those books!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eragon123 View Post
    I love this. Finally it will be possible to do a Lysander Sage build (From Charlie Bone). I mean I guess you could go cleric but that has a whole lot of other features that don't really go well.
    Unfortunately, Tankrid is still very difficult to pull off, since control weather is either a 7th or 8th level spell.

    I suppose you could go a little ways with a druid using druidcraft (harmless puffs of wind) and call lightning, but it's really not the same.
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    Oh man I didn't know anyone else read those books!
    It was Harry Potter meets X-men. Sure the concept was a bit derivative but I loved those books!

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    Unfortunately, Tankrid is still very difficult to pull off, since control weather is either a 7th or 8th level spell.

    I suppose you could go a little ways with a druid using druidcraft (harmless puffs of wind) and call lightning, but it's really not the same.
    Yeah. It’s hard replicating one trick ponies where the trick is really extreme.

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    Depending on the specifics of the mechanics, I kind of want to put together an official material 'world's best swordsmen' party... Battlemaster (best technical swordsman), Swashbuckler (best flashy dueling), Kensai (best wushu mobile swordsham), College of Swords (pretends to be best swordsman, people believe him), and Hexblade (best forbidden deadly technique swordsman)... sure in game play the party would be pretty melee focused and lack some versatility; but the imagery seems sound

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naanomi View Post
    Depending on the specifics of the mechanics, I kind of want to put together an official material 'world's best swordsmen' party... Battlemaster (best technical swordsman), Swashbuckler (best flashy dueling), Kensai (best wushu mobile swordsham), College of Swords (pretends to be best swordsman, people believe him), and Hexblade (best forbidden deadly technique swordsman)... sure in game play the party would be pretty melee focused and lack some versatility; but the imagery seems sound
    Even if you’re all melee, you’ve got two strikers, two Arcane casters, a healer, a tank, a face...I would totally adventure with this party

    EDIT: and if NEED be, the warlock can fall back and provide ranged EB control/support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DracoKnight View Post
    Even if you’re all melee, you’ve got two strikers, two Arcane casters, a healer, a tank, a face...I would totally adventure with this party

    EDIT: and if NEED be, the warlock can fall back and provide ranged EB control/support.
    And fluff his EB as throwing swords or something, because who needs logic when you can get magical swords to fling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DracoKnight View Post
    Even if you’re all melee, you’ve got two strikers, two Arcane casters, a healer, a tank, a face...I would totally adventure with this party

    EDIT: and if NEED be, the warlock can fall back and provide ranged EB control/support.
    But what if the Hexblade didn't take EB at all? :o

    Eldritch Invocations are relatively scarce and it's entirely possible that a Hexblade doesn't have any of those related to EB (nor EB itself)
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilAnagram View Post
    He doesn't fly into mindless rages or exhaust himself on attempts to overcome enemies. Also, he frequently wears heavy armor.
    Half plate is medium armor which he is proficient in.

    Cant recall Conan wearing anything heavier than that.

    Frenzy isnt a mindless rage. You're in total control of your PC. He might not frenzy (he might just rage), but he can if he wants.

    Im sure in the books Conan gets tired and exhausted after some battles. That him using frenzy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eragon123 View Post
    Yeah. It’s hard replicating one trick ponies where the trick is really extreme.
    Is there something I'm missing? I can't really see anything that makes it worth being level 7 or 8. Seems to me it could be a level 4 or 5 spell without any problems, especially if you remove the "extreme heat" and "arctic cold" options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naanomi View Post
    Depending on the specifics of the mechanics, I kind of want to put together an official material 'world's best swordsmen' party... Battlemaster (best technical swordsman), Swashbuckler (best flashy dueling), Kensai (best wushu mobile swordsham), College of Swords (pretends to be best swordsman, people believe him), and Hexblade (best forbidden deadly technique swordsman)... sure in game play the party would be pretty melee focused and lack some versatility; but the imagery seems sound
    And then they get beaten by a Champion, who's just a really skilled swordsman.

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    Okay, so who wants to bet on today's video? Remaining, we have:

    *Barbarian - Path of the Storm Herald
    *Barbarian - Path of the Zealot

    *Bard - College of Swords

    *Druid - Circle of Shepard

    *Monk - Way of the Kensai

    *Paladin - Oath of Conquest
    *Paladin - Oath of Redemption

    *Ranger - Gloom Stalker


    Assuming, that is, that we're not going to get videos for the reprinted subclasses. While I would love to see a Paladin video finally, I am betting that we're getting the Kensai Monk today.

    Also, has there been any update on whether or not we're getting the full, legit, TOC today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn View Post
    Okay, so who wants to bet on today's video? Remaining, we have:

    *Barbarian - Path of the Storm Herald
    *Barbarian - Path of the Zealot

    *Bard - College of Swords

    *Druid - Circle of Shepard

    *Monk - Way of the Kensai

    *Paladin - Oath of Conquest
    *Paladin - Oath of Redemption

    *Ranger - Gloom Stalker


    Assuming, that is, that we're not going to get videos for the reprinted subclasses. While I would love to see a Paladin video finally, I am betting that we're getting the Kensai Monk today.

    Also, has there been any update on whether or not we're getting the full, legit, TOC today?
    I would say Redemption Paladin, my reasoning for that is no more solid than a person buying a lottery ticket though.


    As for the real TOC, there hasn't been anything posted about it that I have seen from official sources on twitter. However, they did say sometime this week so *fingers crossed*
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickl_2000 View Post
    I would say Redemption Paladin, my reasoning for that is no more solid than a person buying a lottery ticket though.


    As for the real TOC, there hasn't been anything posted about it that I have seen from official sources on twitter. However, they did say sometime this week so *fingers crossed*
    I also vote for Paladin (not any in particular though) but i hope to see Gloom Stalker soon, just to know what is that, if its a renamed version of the Underdark, or maybe a combination of UAs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxilian View Post
    I also vote for Paladin (not any in particular though) but i hope to see Gloom Stalker soon, just to know what is that, if its a renamed version of the Underdark, or maybe a combination of UAs.
    Okay, now that I look at twitter this morning, I think I was ever more right about Redemption Paladin

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickl_2000 View Post
    Okay, now that I look at twitter this morning, I think I was ever more right about Redemption Paladin

    https://twitter.com/DnDBeyond/status/921067739300511744
    Judge Dredd has NOTHING to do with Redemption.

    It's going to be the Oath of Conquest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unoriginal View Post
    Judge Dredd has NOTHING to do with Redemption.

    It's going to be the Oath of Conquest.
    I guess you have a solid point, but does he really have that much to do with Conquest? Frankly Vengeance Paladin would make the most sense.

    What about Barbarian Path of the Zealot? I wouldn't call him a religious zealot, but calling him a non-religious zealot wouldn't be a stretch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unoriginal View Post
    Judge Dredd has NOTHING to do with Redemption.

    It's going to be the Oath of Conquest.
    I was wondering the same...

    I mean... he even have fire reflecting from his helmet, i have not seem people redeemed by fire (Regardless of what people though they were doing when they burned the so called "witches")

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickl_2000 View Post
    Okay, now that I look at twitter this morning, I think I was ever more right about Redemption Paladin

    https://twitter.com/DnDBeyond/status/921067739300511744
    It could be conquest too. If you think about it judge dread was never in need of redemption, he was framed. He's much more the conqueror of the lawless and criminal, his way or the highway. But of course I knew you'd say that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortis_Elrod View Post
    It could be conquest too. If you think about it judge dread was never in need of redemption, he was framed. He's much more the conqueror of the lawless and criminal, his way or the highway. But of course I knew you'd say that.
    ...And now we're going to get LG Paladins going around shouting that they are 'the LAAAAAAAWWWWW!'.
    Thanks for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickl_2000 View Post
    I guess you have a solid point, but does he really have that much to do with Conquest? Frankly Vengeance Paladin would make the most sense.
    I'd say pummeling criminals until they can't threaten order is a very Oath of Conquest thing do to.

    Quote Originally Posted by nickl_2000 View Post
    What about Barbarian Path of the Zealot? I wouldn't call him a religious zealot, but calling him a non-religious zealot wouldn't be a stretch
    Possible, very possible indeed.

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