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2020-08-18, 08:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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OOTS #1211 - The Discussion Thread
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2020-08-18, 08:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1211 - The Discussion Thread
Minrah continues to be amazing, and we can finally get people to shut up about Durkon not mentioning TDO not surviving!
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2020-08-18, 08:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Nice big squares. Also cool to see the statue do something.
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2020-08-18, 08:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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I think Durkon might feel dwarfed by Maxrah's demands
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2020-08-18, 08:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1211 - The Discussion Thread
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2020-08-18, 08:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1211 - The Discussion Thread
To be fair, that is a lot of exposition to relay all at once. Had I been Redcloak I'd have tuned out at the mention of color coded deities
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SpoilerIt's like, a secret to everybody or whatever.
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2020-08-18, 08:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1211 - The Discussion Thread
Thank you Minrah for pointing out how vital that information would have been. That's been bugging me for pages.
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2020-08-18, 08:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1211 - The Discussion Thread
Durkon can't be faulted about not knowing about Redcloak's sunken cost fallacy. Or that he's just as nuts as the gods willing to burn everything to start over.
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2020-08-18, 08:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1211 - The Discussion Thread
C'mon, Durkon, we've been telling you to say it for ages!
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2020-08-18, 08:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1211 - The Discussion Thread
I know this won’t stop people but: yet another proof the Gate is not inside the statue.
Why does Minrah has Negative Energy Resistance? Is it the hammer? Or did Durkon cast Mass Death Ward? How long does that last, if he did?
Also I’m surprised the ruckuss hasn’t attracted Xykon yet.Forum Wisdom
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2020-08-18, 08:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1211 - The Discussion Thread
... staying around seems like a very bad plan, far worse then trying to talk to Redcloak in the first place.
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2020-08-18, 08:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-08-18, 08:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Looks like things are escalating fast, less escape plan and more ill thought out 2v1. That poor fool Redcloak though. He really will cut out his own metaphorical eye to spite his face.
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2020-08-18, 08:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Very telling that RC thinks the world being undone is about him losing and no thought is given to all the other goblinoids that would be unmade with him.
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2020-08-18, 08:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-08-18, 08:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-08-18, 08:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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“A bad plan we planned for”. Awesome.
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2020-08-18, 08:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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But then I wonder, did he cast it on the whole order? Or could he cast it back in cloudform?
If Xykon didn't notice the huge dwarf, he'd definitely notice the...animated Kraagor?
Yup.Forum Wisdom
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2020-08-18, 08:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1211 - The Discussion Thread
Actually I wouldn't be surprised if the fact that Redcloak moved the statue will be a plot point later on.
Most likely Durkon cast the mass version he learned in the 5th book.
Considering nobody from Tarquin's gang is likely to show up (as far as Durkon knows), he should be casting that all the time.
They know Xykon has a thing for energy drain.
I'm guessing he's either monitoring Redcloak to see if there's a hint that Redcloak will turn on him or possibly that he's just elsewhere (like his fortress) or just watches his Tivo.
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2020-08-18, 08:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1211 - The Discussion Thread
It's really hard to take the statue seriously as a threat with that tongue hanging out.
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2020-08-18, 08:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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It would be totally in character for Xykon to have noticed Durkon from the start and just pretend he hadn't to see what Redcloak did. Or to enjoy the show, in which case he'd only intervene if Minrah and Durkon came close to defeating Redcloak.
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2020-08-18, 08:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-08-18, 08:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1211 - The Discussion Thread
I don't see what was good about his reason at all - especially since they literally arrived at the same conclusion Redcloak did before Thor explained that wouldn't work. How could Durkon expect Redcloak to also not arrive at that conclusion/see it as a viable alternative absent a theological explanation?
Is this going to be a thing? I feel like this is going to be a thing.Last edited by Psyren; 2020-08-18 at 08:56 AM.
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2020-08-18, 08:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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oh, good crack joke, I though them exhausted here
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2020-08-18, 08:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1211 - The Discussion Thread
I love Minrah!
This may have been a bad plan but it's a bad plan we planned for
I also like Redcloak's decision to use Animate Object. Good tactics!
Also, Redcloak has a fair point
"According to a random dwarf who I have no reason to believe"
Giant does a good job in not having his characters possess narrative omniscience. If we put ourselves into Redcloak's shoes, it is a valid point of view for him to take:
"Why should I believe you? Why should I trust you?"
We, the audience, with a bit more 'narrative omniscience' to hand so that we can see why he should trust Durkon. But beyond his own obsession with The Plan, the grounds for a trust relationship have not been established. That takes time to grow and nurture when the previous relationship was based on lethal animosity. And to get him to change his dedication to The Plan, it's gonna take a lot more than one dwarf's word ... a dwarf he doesn't trust (yet).
Durkon's job/task from Thor boils down to this: get Redcloak to trust you.
(The rest of the dialogue is a rehash of points already covered on the forum in the past five strips, but I am glad to see most of us were pretty much on the same page with the Giant)
And of course, Kraagor's pedastel is now missing its statue. I wonder what little twist will arise with that, beyond the statue keeping up its attack on the only other dwarves at the North Pole. (Slight irony there, I think).Last edited by KorvinStarmast; 2020-08-18 at 09:04 AM.
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2020-08-18, 08:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1211 - The Discussion Thread
Yeah, but Redcloak is the kind of goblin that puts his reports on color coded parchments and worries about cover sheets. He'd eat up minutiae like that.
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2020-08-18, 08:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-08-18, 08:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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I love how the thicker outlines on Maxrah make it clear that this isn’t a normal large creature, but a medium creature, enlarged.
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"It's a bad plan we planned for!" Gotta love Minrah!
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