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2024-04-10, 03:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXXII: The scientific method at work!
I'm... not even entirely sure why, but I'm weirdly amused that the Dreen turned back into the form we're used to seeing them in once they left the light of Prende's Lantern.
And bickering precognitives are always funny.Times being what they are, the stars aligning and the End of All Things barely registered as background noise.
At a bit of a loss as to what to do next, and with bills to pay, a certain Elder Thing has taken up bartending.
This is...
The Last Call of Cthulhu
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2024-04-10, 07:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXXII: The scientific method at work!
On the one hand we have learned a bit about the dreen, namely that prendes lantern changes how they appear to us meaning their appearance is based on some form of timey whimey strangeness. on the other, I agree, they just instantly went from mysterious super powerful beings to office workers with odd speech styles lounging in the break room. Which kind of sucks. Not everything has to be comedic.
"Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
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2024-04-10, 07:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXXII: The scientific method at work!
The appearance changing when in the light of the lantern is interesting.
We're collectively having a "Toto pulls aside the curtain and we see the real Wizard of Oz" moment. Creatures of vast power and unknown nature and intent are now revealed as homely creatures who like shortbread and bicker among themselves. Assuming the Foglios know their business, the payoff in terms of story advancement ought to be immense. These 3 are not just going to hang out in the break room. Something may go wrong with Agatha's efforts to free Mechanicsburg and these 3 will provide the solution - Dreen ex Machina.This ... is my signature finishing move!
"It's never good when you make a fiend cringe" - MadGrady
According to some online quiz, I'm a 6th level TN Wizard. They didn't give me full XP for all the monsters I've defeated while daydreaming.
http://easydamus.com/character.html
I am a Ranger Archetype: Gleaming Warden (thx to Ninja Prawn)
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2024-04-10, 08:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXXII: The scientific method at work!
* my emphasis
http://dmreference.com/SRD/
http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/
Things that don't kill me make me strong
Things that do kill me leave me dead
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2024-04-10, 08:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXXII: The scientific method at work!
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2024-04-11, 12:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXXII: The scientific method at work!
I'll be honest, when they were revealed I felt a lot of that mystique lost, but the part where they start lounging casually in this comic a good chunk of it I felt they grabbed back. Specifically the fact that they're in the room with some of the most powerful people on the planet and are treating this legitimately as if the main cast were bugs to be ignored. Imagine if aliens just spontaneously walked into the oval office of the USA, confirmed that yes this was the president, no-sold the center of a nuclear detonation, and then sat in the corner talking and referring to business that may-or-may-not involve mortal harm to said president.
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2024-04-11, 02:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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2024-04-11, 04:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXXII: The scientific method at work!
* my emphasis
http://dmreference.com/SRD/
http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/
Things that don't kill me make me strong
Things that do kill me leave me dead
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2024-04-11, 06:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXXII: The scientific method at work!
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2024-04-11, 09:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXXII: The scientific method at work!
"Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
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2024-04-11, 10:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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2024-04-11, 01:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXXII: The scientific method at work!
Warning: This posting may contain wit, wisdom, pathos, irony, satire, sarcasm and puns. And traces of nut.
"The main skill of a good ruler seems to be not preventing the conflagrations but rather keeping them contained enough they rate more as campfires." Rogar Demonblud
"Hold on just a d*** second. UK has spam callers that try to get you to buy conservatories?!? Even y'alls spammers are higher class than ours!" Peelee
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2024-04-11, 02:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXXII: The scientific method at work!
This discussion is fantastic, absolutely fantastic.
Can't wait for the part where Agatha declares the laws of time are hers, and they will obey her.Post, post, post, post an amusing and insightful comment!
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2024-04-11, 05:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-04-11, 11:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXXII: The scientific method at work!
The Chosen One.
.Spoiler: hmmBut wait, that's not her. A bit of a fake-outLast edited by DavidSh; 2024-04-11 at 11:12 PM.
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2024-04-12, 01:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXXII: The scientific method at work!
In this case the phrase is most likely used without any weight behind it: someone has to talk to her and nobody really wants to, so I take any excuse I have to designate you for the job.
I remember how at the first year at my university we picked head of our year (one student to talk with lecturers about test schedules and other organizational issues): during a break one guy stood up and said that we have to appoint someone. The whole year simply started applauding.In a war it doesn't matter who's right, only who's left.
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2024-04-12, 10:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXXII: The scientific method at work!
It's good to see Sparks practicing the fundamentals of science.
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2024-04-12, 11:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXXII: The scientific method at work!
I agree, this has been very disappointing. I understand it would be hard to make everybody happy with a big reveal like "what do the Dreen actually look like", but this was just bad, imo. They look goofy, and they talk like office plumbers/mechanics that have worked too much overtime and just want to get their job done and go home (which may be the case, who knows?).
I'm expecting some sort of 'this is how your puny minds perceive us' type explanation to be coming soon.
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2024-04-12, 08:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXXII: The scientific method at work!
Honestly I'd have preferred if we'd just ended up with goofy extradimensional beekeepers. They're clearly much, much more in-sync with the world than Kjarl was, so I don't get why they're were turned into blue humans. They could easily have been made silly without adding a second look!
Although for all I know it turns out that the Green are actually Jägers from the year 3587, and the ones which caused a previous Heterodyne to have pie were future dingbots.
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2024-04-13, 02:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXXII: The scientific method at work!
Huh.
I guess I'm odd, because I don't mind that the mysterious, fearsome Dreen are suddenly just tired tradies, new look or not. I suspect that the new look is mostly because we need some way to differentiate the three Dreen (so there's at least one there that didn't work for Klaus, if the novels are to be believed... or at least haven't been retconned).
And I kind of love that Agatha maintains her scientific curiousity, and is applying the most basic of all scientific tests, the 'does this happen every time?' with the sceptre.Times being what they are, the stars aligning and the End of All Things barely registered as background noise.
At a bit of a loss as to what to do next, and with bills to pay, a certain Elder Thing has taken up bartending.
This is...
The Last Call of Cthulhu
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2024-04-13, 06:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXXII: The scientific method at work!
One Dreen not working for Klaus is confirmed in-comic. There was a Dreen released from the vaults in Saint Spazc who later appears to Gil and Bang confirms it's not one that works for Klaus.
There were three Dreen seen in the Robur Heterodyne flashback. Back at the very beginning of the strip, there are two Dreen seen fighting the Wasps on Castle Wulfenbach and when Gil is talking with Thotep he confirms that two Dreen met and worked for his father.
So I think it's safe to say that when Klaus returned from Skifander one Dreen stayed with Robur's device in the Corbettite Vault while the other two met with and worked with Klaus. After the battle at Saint Spazc, the third Dreen met up with Gil and rejoined the other two, and now we have a group of 3 Dreen traveling around.
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2024-04-13, 10:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXXII: The scientific method at work!
Warning: This posting may contain wit, wisdom, pathos, irony, satire, sarcasm and puns. And traces of nut.
"The main skill of a good ruler seems to be not preventing the conflagrations but rather keeping them contained enough they rate more as campfires." Rogar Demonblud
"Hold on just a d*** second. UK has spam callers that try to get you to buy conservatories?!? Even y'alls spammers are higher class than ours!" Peelee
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2024-04-14, 07:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXXII: The scientific method at work!
Apropos not much, I think the Corbettites deserve their own side-story. The amount of power required to imprison Dreen is probably not trivial, along with The Beast and all the other things they had in their vaults. It'd be interesting to know what their internal politics look like.
This ... is my signature finishing move!
"It's never good when you make a fiend cringe" - MadGrady
According to some online quiz, I'm a 6th level TN Wizard. They didn't give me full XP for all the monsters I've defeated while daydreaming.
http://easydamus.com/character.html
I am a Ranger Archetype: Gleaming Warden (thx to Ninja Prawn)
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2024-04-14, 08:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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2024-04-14, 09:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXXII: The scientific method at work!
Who said they were imprisoned?
The Dreen doesn't look to be imprisoned in its first appearance, and there's no mad panic about an escaped and hostile Dreen there.
It's second appearance (at least, I assume it's the same one...) has the Abbot looking worried, but there's no "My God, It's escaped" scene.Warning: This posting may contain wit, wisdom, pathos, irony, satire, sarcasm and puns. And traces of nut.
"The main skill of a good ruler seems to be not preventing the conflagrations but rather keeping them contained enough they rate more as campfires." Rogar Demonblud
"Hold on just a d*** second. UK has spam callers that try to get you to buy conservatories?!? Even y'alls spammers are higher class than ours!" Peelee
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2024-04-14, 12:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXXII: The scientific method at work!
I mean, who wouldn't be worried when a Dreen pops up?
We also have a flashback of the Dreen leaving Mechanicsburg with the Corbetites, don't really look like prisoners there, just following the wagon with whatever was the device Robur built.
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2024-04-14, 05:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXXII: The scientific method at work!
The implication is certainly that it was imprisoned, even if it's not said outright. Brother Ulm is saying "nothing really deadly seems to have escaped", and the dramatic irony over to the right (so you see it after reading the dialogue) is the Dreen watching them from hiding.
Dreen being Dreen, my thought is that the the Corbetites did imprison it...but it could have escaped any time it wanted to. It knew that eventually the prison would be opened at the exact time it needed to go deliver a prophetic nudge to Gil.
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2024-04-15, 02:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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2024-04-15, 02:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXXII: The scientific method at work!
It could be the same. I don't think the Corbettite look often at the crazy dangerous stuff locked in their vaults. They could simply have locked the Time Machine's vault with the Dreen standing inside, and assumed that they were still here because they didn't notice/understand how two of them got out 20 years ago.
We see only one dreen following Agatha during the Corbettite sequence.
By the way, do we know what lady Selnikov wanted from the vaults? It's one of the (many) story bits that are unclear to me.
(Of course, the Doylist reason is probably "To put the entire Corbettite story in motion", but did we get a Watsonian explanation yet?)
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2024-04-15, 04:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Girl Genius XXXII: The scientific method at work!
Spoiler: Monday comicI think you called it. I don't see Space-time cops/repairmen calling "freezing time and summoning a big beasty" a service, and they also need Agatha's help to get to HEBT1 . But, if they are indeed Space-time big game hunters here to bag an HEBT1 then they'd call it a service and it would also be an explanation for the chuckling.