Listining without sound

[Moral Wiz]

Hmm. Here's somthing that struck me. Read Jillian's speach to yourself, then compair it to how jillian generally talks. It simply dosn't read like the same person.

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Now read as many examples of Wanda's speach as possible.. .

It may just be me, but the similarities there are much more prounounced. It sounds like Jillian is reading of a script Wanda wrote. And coming on top of the comment in the last strip about free will...

Anything against this? we know Wanda practices Thinkamancy, so it's possible (I'm guessing some magic could be trigered remotely, but we have seen nothing on this yet) even if not magic, Wanda might well have simply come up with a script by remote (as Jillian is unlikely to come up with convincing Dialouge

thoughts?

[Koneko]

Also look at her eyes.

Normally brown, they've become blue.

I think it's fairly obvious, really.

[Lazy Fat Man]

Also look at her eyes.

Normally brown, they've become blue.

I think it's fairly obvious, really.

I see her eyes as a dark purple, and I think the blue sparkling effect of the Archons spell might make her eyes seem bluer.

As for the OP, Nothing we have seen so far suggests that Wanda's spell allows that sort of control. (Come to think of it, I guess you are saying that Jillians speech patterns suggest that very thing.) You know, Wanda's spell doesn't seem to do anything, The "don't harm people you love" effect is something most people do when they're in love anyway.

[Moral Wiz]

That's why I also said the possibility that it may simply be a script wanda came up with for jillian. I think we can agree though, jillian does not sound herself.

[Lazy Fat Man]

I do agree with you, she's not being herself. She seems way more interspective and self aware than I would have given her credit for. Also, No way she would declare her feeling and inner most thoughts like that.

Her speech should have gone more like this.

"Hey Ansom, I found the dwagons. Consider them croaked. Over and out."

I still don't think Wands' spell can control her that well. However, perhaps the Eyemancer trio can do more than just recon. But I doubt they would be able to do anything on Ansom's turn.

[Jasdoif]

I do agree with you, she's not being herself. She seems way more interspective and self aware than I would have given her credit for. Also, No way she would declare her feeling and inner most thoughts like that.

Now, what I'm thinking is that those very inner thoughts are what's being relayed. It's called a thinkagram, afterall. Perhaps it's Ansom's own mind that's giving words to her thoughts.

Of course, there's also the possibility that something else is amiss. Could be both, in fact. I do have to wonder about Jaclyn's behavior, it doesn't seem that this sort of rebellion is the norm for the Archons.

[nastyman]

maybe wanda paid for charlie. it never does say who paid for charlie.

[Moral Wiz]

Now, what I'm thinking is that those very inner thoughts are what's being relayed. It's called a thinkagram, afterall. Perhaps it's Ansom's own mind that's giving words to her thoughts.

Unlikely. It is suposed to be a reliable means of communication. I can't see such distortion as a possibility or no one would ever use Thinkagrams. I'm going for the obvious. Simple long distance telepathy.

[factotum]

Also look at her eyes.

Normally brown, they've become blue.

I think it's fairly obvious, really.

When were her eyes "normally brown"? They're certainly blue during her very first appearance on page 7, and also blue more recently in strip 63.

[SteveMB]

When were her eyes "normally brown"? They're certainly blue during her very first appearance on page 7, and also blue more recently in strip 63.

They're usually a somewhat darker violet-blue. However, if you compare scenes under different illumination (e.g. the light globes -- on page 8, Jillian and Ansom's eyes both look yellow), it's evident that Jamie tailors the color palette of the scene accordingly. Thus, I'm inclined to go with the simple explanation that it's the color shift (clearly visible if you compare the sky inside and outside the "frame") of the Thinkagram effect.

[Egmorn]

I don't know if it has ever comes in the discussion (the thread on this new page is too long to read from the beginning). But did it occure to someone, that even if Jillian don't attack the wounded dwagon, she will have to hack through some to get to Ansom.

Threrefore, by stating that she will croak some dwagon before getting with Ansom, there still is a chance that she decided to ignore the croaked dwagon.

Egmorn

[DDL]

No she won't: she can go in the back way through the hole in the 'fort' that ansom + gumps created.

[Egmorn]

I am not sure. I didn't study the map very precisely. But the goal of Jillian is to go as quick as possible to the center, pick up Ansom and flee as far as possible toward the army.

If she is not perfectly alligned to the "backdoor", going to the center as fast as possible might take her through. depending wether she is on the hex with dwagon (then she can go through the backdoor) or on one of the adjascent hex.

Still I too am pretty convinced that she will try to attack the wounded dwagon.

[SteveMB]

I am not sure. I didn't study the map very precisely. But the goal of Jillian is to go as quick as possible to the center, pick up Ansom and flee as far as possible toward the army.

If she is not perfectly alligned to the "backdoor", going to the center as fast as possible might take her through. depending wether she is on the hex with dwagon (then she can go through the backdoor) or on one of the adjascent hex.

Looking at the map, the wounded-dwagon hex is three hexes away from Ansom's hex in the center of the dwagon ring. There are three different "shortest routes" on the hex grid, two of which go through the gap in the ring where Ansom's force croaked the weak stack on the way in.

[Ganurath]

I like the idea, mainly because we don't know that Ansom is the friend she phoned first. Perhaps she wanted Wanda to assert stronger control, which explains the angry expressions on the Archons in the last panel.

[Zelig the Liar]

Or maybe a character has had some development and those dwagons are booped.

[Moral Wiz]

Or maybe a character has had some development and those dwagons are booped.

overly simplistic, and probably wrong.

A) (Slight metagaming) The loss of the Dwagons means Gobwin Knob is booped(As they are allready outnumbered, such losses in their greates units would be the begining of their end.) The loss of the seige does not nessecerially mean the end of the Coilition as they still have vastly superior numbers, and can still use the tunnels. I'm thinking the path that leads to more conflict in future will be likely

B) Since when has simple "Character develoupment" changed people's speach? As I said in the OP, It reads very much more like wanda than jillian.

Hmm. Can spells be cast on the enemy's turn?