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That would greatly decrease the usefulness of the weapon. The last thing you want in a stabbing weapon is a wide blade with a relatively blunt end.
She might be able to switch between fixed blade styles. I will buy the idea that the dagger is a different weapon when someone explains to me why you would ever want a long, two-handed pommel on a one-handed stabbing weapon meant for use in close quarters.Last edited by Wender; 2007-09-18 at 05:03 PM. Reason: added adjective
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In panels 3 and 4, she doesn't have it, and in panel 1 the BFS is not visible, so it would appear she draws it between panels 4 and 5. Now, why would she want a long pommeled dagger?
-Maybe the blade is some sort of Erfian metal and very heavy, the long pommel mere acts as a counter-balance
-She is used to and prefers the BFS style pommel and has developed a long pommeled dagger style as her backup weapon
-The long pommel is meant to mimic the BFS pommel and is just for show. If she were to lose the BFS she could put the dagger in its scabbard to throw enemies off
Also, that's an awfully long dagger (I'd say almost 10") so it might be used as a slashing weapon in some cases.'Old fool!' he said. 'Old fool! This is my hour. Do you not know Death when you see it? Die now and curse in vain!' And with that he lifted high his sword and flames ran down the blade.
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Let me propose this series of events o the "long handled dagger"
between pannels 4 and five she draws a dagger from her belt.
In panel 5 Manpower drops the sword.
Between panels 5 and 7 she catches his sword and stabbities the dragon.
So in panel 7 you are seeing manpowers sword.
Her hands would be positioned for such a thing so it is possible.
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I wouldn't have thought that she would grab Manpower's sword when she is capable of croaking a small army with a pair of chopsticks...a dagger would then seem enough to kill a badly wouned / near death Dwagon!
Much as I don't like the idea of the BFS resizing & shaping without any indication of it, I am also of the opinion that if she had lost it and that that was important, we would have been shown the BFS dropping!
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If this has been answered in this thread, just tell me, but I really REALLY could not, at all, tell who the heck was speaking in the panels. It's very confusing, adding yet another layer of confusion onto this already complicated comic.
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Parson's speech is in a different font; Wanda and the Tool are clearly distinguished by context (and usually because Wanda speaks in a more highbrow manner, though not in this case).
Panel 1: Wanda ("No."); Parson replies.
Panel 2: Parson continues; Wanda replies ("Please.")
Panel 3: Parson asks Stanley to settle it ("Tool?"); Stanley backs him up ("Yeah." "Croak her.")
Panel 4: Parson gives instructions.
Panel 8: Stanley gives an oh-so-helpful heads-up that Ansom is in the hex, mere moments after Parson has already noticed and made an unsuccessful attempt to respond. Parson expresses his exasperation.Last edited by SteveMB; 2007-09-19 at 09:41 AM.
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Thanks, that makes it much more understandable. :)
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I want a new page so bad I can taste it.
Can you taste it?'Old fool!' he said. 'Old fool! This is my hour. Do you not know Death when you see it? Die now and curse in vain!' And with that he lifted high his sword and flames ran down the blade.
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Two things:
1. I think the point of the sword is angled towards the "camera." Forshortening the blade makes it look like a dagger.
2. Indeed, I'm wondering where the new strip is. It's been eight days. What's going on? Why no news?
And before you point me to the ""Erfworld is now random" page," I already saw it. The explanation was that Cons were eating up massive amounts of time, but by now the Cons should be over.
Things have been painfully slow for over two months. Kick it into high gear, please.Last edited by Surfing HalfOrc; 2007-09-20 at 12:25 PM.
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Yeah! Get to work! What do we pay you for!
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That's a pretty disingenuous statement. I mean, if someone is putting content up in a public forum for comment and consideration, one of the things that's going to happen if your content is enjoyable is that people may say "Hey, that's really good - can we have some more please?"
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Yeah, the authors/artists have, unfortunately, been 75% inconsistent with their posting.
I seem to recall reading once that it took one of them 27 hours to do the lettering...for one earlier episode.
Excuse me?
I hope they were kidding. I really do. Because that kind of stuff shouldn't happen for a webcomic like this.
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I've spent a fair amount of time fiddling with the lettering on various motivational-poster parodies and remixes in the LOLErf thread. I'm pretty sure that Rob's standards for an acceptable final comic page are tougher than mine for a relatively minor gag piece.
I can believe that it takes quite a bit of time to work out issues like adjusting character spacing and size to produce good-looking and readable dialog boxes while blocking out as little of the artwork as possible.Last edited by SteveMB; 2007-09-21 at 02:41 PM.
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For a three-panel strip? No. Those only take 3 hours. For a lavishly produced full-pager like this? Sure.
You cannot hope to judge the amount of time it takes to produce something by the amount of time it would take to reproduce that thing. With as many panels and as many characters and as much dialog as this strip juggles in any given update, I can easily imagine it taking that long. And then you scrunch it down for the web and something unexpectedly turns into oatmeal and you have to go back and fiddle with it until it can survive a trip through the compression algorithm, and then what does it look like at print quality?
Erfworld is an ambitious undertaking.
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Yeah, Erfworld is high quality.
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1. I think the point of the sword is angled towards the "camera." Forshortening the blade makes it look like a dagger.
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The sword was never in the dwagon's mouth. What you see in its mouth in panel 3 is Jillian's left arm. If you examine the pattern on the object in the dwagon's mouth in panel 3, it matches the pattern of her right upper arm armor in the second-to-last panel. Then you see her arm and part of her hand in panel 4 in the dwagon's mouth. And finally she's managed to pry the dwagon's mouth open a bit and move her left arm to what I suppose is a more comfortable position and pulled her sword out of its sheath with her right hand, or hammerspace, or her butt, or wherever it was.