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2010-06-26, 05:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: D&D 3.5 Tyranid Monster Class
Thanks for the explanation. And now I get it. I still ask myself what would happen if I would Gestalt the tyranid with another class, taking the VoP. With as Gestalt class I am than thinking about Totemist. Or at least something that gives you a lot of attacks. Spirit Lion barbarian could also be taken (or at least one level for pounce).
I mean this class is allready good for almost everything and something like that makes is not only better, but you could do it and not spend LA on getting a bigger HD“Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!”
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2010-06-26, 05:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: D&D 3.5 Tyranid Monster Class
Well, lots of the Tyranid HD/VoP stuff overlaps instead of stacking, so it's not as awesome a combo as you may think.
Of course, there are good gestalt builds for Tyranid - pay the LA to double the stat advancement, for instance, and put some kind of full caster up the other side;) Or, as I'm doing in the test game, jack up the natural weapons count and get yourself some sneak attack.Currently Running:
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2010-06-26, 05:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: D&D 3.5 Tyranid Monster Class
I'm planning a nearly similiar build. Lots of Natural attacks through +limb LA, but focus on Str and just whack stuff. Totemist to buff the natural weapons.
BTW, I'm actually not very sure of the Nat. Weapons... Is it selected on creation of limb, and you can't change the weapon right?
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2010-06-26, 05:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: D&D 3.5 Tyranid Monster Class
This is correct.
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2010-06-26, 06:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: D&D 3.5 Tyranid Monster Class
The Energy Weapon says that if your resistances are equal, you choose. Does that mean every time you can choose, so if you resist all 5 energy types equally, you can have an attack for every energy type?
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2010-06-26, 06:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: D&D 3.5 Tyranid Monster Class
If you have five energy weapon attacks, yes. My build actually has four, so Cold missed out:(
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2010-06-26, 06:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-26, 06:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: D&D 3.5 Tyranid Monster Class
Well, mine minors in skillmonkey so I had to save a few limb points for thumbs.
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2010-06-26, 06:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: D&D 3.5 Tyranid Monster Class
I take the VoP not for the armor and so. So I will take it for the Stat-Enhancements and stuff. And actually since the VoP-fix goes about ECL not HD you do get more bonuses even if you have LA. The only thing you miss is your HD, but with enough Con no one notices that.
I think my build would have a maximum of 2 LA though. Two extra minor limbs with wings LA+ 0,5), one increasement of the HD(+0,5 LA) and 1 times the double attribute (+1 LA)
Four major Limbs with excellent natural weapons, and walk off course.
The tail I do not know about though.Last edited by Duskranger; 2010-06-26 at 07:11 AM.
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Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
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2010-06-26, 08:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: D&D 3.5 Tyranid Monster Class
If I was to Gestalt, I think my character would be a rogue. Or possibly a Bard. Probably Rogue.
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2010-06-26, 08:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: D&D 3.5 Tyranid Monster Class
For Improved Natural Attack, do the energy weapons count as the same natural form, even if they have different elements?
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2010-06-26, 09:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: D&D 3.5 Tyranid Monster Class
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2010-06-26, 09:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-26, 09:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-26, 10:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: D&D 3.5 Tyranid Monster Class
Oooh.
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2010-06-26, 10:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-26, 10:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: D&D 3.5 Tyranid Monster Class
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2010-06-26, 10:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: D&D 3.5 Tyranid Monster Class
I just proposed that because in Gestalt, it would be both a very flavorfull and resonably powerfull combo. Like volthawk said, Phrenic is in the SRD, and Magic in the Blood essentially let's you use your Sla's more often and improves them.
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2010-06-26, 10:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: D&D 3.5 Tyranid Monster Class
Problem is, that gives me MORE LA. +3, total.
It'd be easier to just taken levels in Wilder on the other side. Would give me more skill points too, allowing me to drop the Int down...Recent Homebrew: The Socialite | The Crystalline: Memory Altering Construct Race | Sanguine Hand, a ToB Discipline of blood and cruelty
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2010-06-26, 10:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: D&D 3.5 Tyranid Monster Class
Hm... I think that I'm gonna do some weird crap. If I made a character it would look like this.
10 major limbs from a ton of LA
All of them on ranged energy attacks ^.^
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2010-06-26, 11:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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2010-06-26, 11:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: D&D 3.5 Tyranid Monster Class
Pfft, no. That's an artillery piece. All it has to do is have a servant hired to drag it around;)
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2010-06-26, 11:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: D&D 3.5 Tyranid Monster Class
Heh. Awesome. So, ten oversized energy composite bows... Take rapid shot at first chance... put your bonuses alternately into Strength and Dexterity... two Winglets on your tail for a slow, clumsy flight... (Grin)
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2010-06-26, 11:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: D&D 3.5 Tyranid Monster Class
I should point out that that would just mean your tail was a regular wing...
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2010-06-26, 11:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: D&D 3.5 Tyranid Monster Class
Rawrzars?!
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2010-06-26, 11:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: D&D 3.5 Tyranid Monster Class
Last edited by Lix Lorn; 2010-06-26 at 11:55 AM.
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2010-06-26, 11:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: D&D 3.5 Tyranid Monster Class
You need two limbs assigned to a mode of movement in order to use it. One limb allows you to hold position, but you count as being flatfooted. You try fighting while balanced on one leg;) No limbs and you're just lying about prone. Or you're a Zoanthrope floating.
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2010-06-26, 11:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: D&D 3.5 Tyranid Monster Class
In that case, make the tail a Spear for last resort, and give two of the guns winglets, but make them not oversized. The sonic ones, cause sonic is always weaker. XD
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2010-06-26, 12:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: D&D 3.5 Tyranid Monster Class
I just found a way to become uber epic as a Zoanthrope. If you are a level 10 Zoanthrope with 5 LA for epicacious energy weapons, you can spend it all on ranged energy weapons, and be dealing, like, friggin' 20d6
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2010-06-26, 01:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: D&D 3.5 Tyranid Monster Class
BTW, about reach...
I'm assuming you meant it to be different than normal reach weapons? Cause, reach weapons double your range, but can't be used against adjacent foes.
How I read this here... is that you get a spiked-chain type reach, but if you're large, you only get 15' reach rather than 20' that you get with normal reach weapons.